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  • Re: co education ko app kis nazar say deekhtay hain ???

    Originally posted by Gul-e-Lala View Post
    I dont think so k hamarey Ham kehne se kisi ka bill ata hai :embarasse wese ham poori koshish ker rahe hain es Ham se peecha churrane ki..

    ham ne kahin nahi kaha k ham co-education ko recommend kerte hain ager aap ne hamara reply ghore se perrha hai tou ham ne start mein he kaha hai k hamari society ki norms esi hain k yahan co-education prevail nahi ker sakti.


    i am sorry to say key yeh hamari society main prevail ker chuki hay
    havn't you see any university in Pakistan
    Almost all universities are co
    most of the colleges are co
    most of the schools are co
    aren't they


    actually thing is that key as a muslim hmm ko co-education ki ijazat naeen hay

    ye jo pairs wagera wali baat hai ye bhi immaturity ko show kerti hai aur kuch nahi.


    pairs wali baat kisi tarah bi immaturity naeen hay , its a human inclination / desire which you can't restrict if you giving them co environment

    Allah has giving us sense that human as well as all living beings except pig look for his / her partner

    aur ham ne yehi kaha hai k pehle humain apni over all soch change kerne ki zaroorat hai phir ham co-education implement ker saktey hain SUCCESSFULLY.

    ya ager hmm apni soch yani key apna deen , islam ko choor deen , modern ( in reality zamana jahliat that was before islam ) key zamney key tareeqay apna leen to yakeenan yeh bohat acchay tareeqay sey implement ho sakti hay , wasey implemented hay yeh yahan Pakistan main , don't you see


    humain es baat ki samjh nahi ati k jahan dou mukhalif sinf k log baat ker rahe hun wahan yehi kyun kaha jata hai k there is something wrong.



    keeon key jahan koi na mehram larka and larki baat kertay haan wahan third one shitan hota hay, its not my saying its abstraction from Quran and Hadees


    anyways ham ne co-education k haq ya mukhalifat mein tou kuch kaha he nahi hai ham ne ooper ki gae baat ki aik logic di hai aur ye bhi kaha hai k zaroori nahi aap log es se agree karen.

    okey no problem

    aap plz aik baar phir hamare reply ko perrhye aur dekhye k ham ne kiya kaha hai werna ham aap k "is key through ager app co - education ki favour ker rahi haan to afsoos hay" ko mind bhi ker sakte hain k u have misinterpretted my views.
    :mm: agerchay app ney direct favour naeen ki , lakin thora thora touch to hay :comfort: mind naeen kerna ager kia to :tauba pir main kia keh sakta hoon :donno:
    People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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    • Re: co education ko app kis nazar say deekhtay hain ???

      Originally posted by filbahere View Post
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      i am sorry to say key yeh hamari society main prevail ker chuki hay
      havn't you see any university in Pakistan
      Almost all universities are co
      most of the colleges are co
      most of the schools are co
      aren't they


      actually thing is that key as a muslim hmm ko co-education ki ijazat naeen hay


      pairs wali baat kisi tarah bi immaturity naeen hay , its a human inclination / desire which you can't restrict if you giving them co environment

      Allah has giving us sense that human as well as all living beings except pig look for his / her partner


      ya ager hmm apni soch yani key apna deen , islam ko choor deen , modern ( in reality zamana jahliat that was before islam ) key zamney key tareeqay apna leen to yakeenan yeh bohat acchay tareeqay sey implement ho sakti hay , wasey implemented hay yeh yahan Pakistan main , don't you see








      okey no problem

      [color=#ff00ff][b] :mm: agerchay app ney direct favour naeen ki , lakin thora thora touch to hay :comfort: mind naeen kerna ager kia to :tauba pir main kia keh sakta hoon :donno:
      dekhye jaban ab ager aap behas baraye behas ker rahe hain tou ham kuch bhi nahi keh sakte. aap ko pehle bhi kaha tha k aap hamare first reply ko ghore se perrhye
      Khudanakhwasta ham ye kyun kahen k Islamic shaaar mein tabdeeli lae jaye. soch mein tabdeeli se hamari murad ye hai k aik taraf tou ham apne buchon ko apni religious aur cultural values ko apnane per zore dete hain aur doosri taraf hamara media her college uni ko love garden ki surat mein pesh kerta hai tou young minds k liye es se attract hona koi anhoni nahi hai. humain apni society k her pehloo ko apni values say match kerne ki zaroorat hai tabhi sutdents institutes ko study place samjhen gey aur bhot si burayan khatam ho sakti hain.anyways I am positive k aap ko es baat mein bhi koi niya pehloo nazer aa jaye ga
      ye human instict hai k one seeks for partners lakin bhaee sahib kisi se professional ya work related baat kerna es zumre main nahi aata. kher leave it ham zayada behas mein nahi perrna chahte. rather....



      aur aik baat aur ALLAH ka shuker hai being muslim and being an eastern I am sticking to my norms(shayed bhot se so called Pak and religious logon se zayada) aur kisi ko ye kehna k aap Deen Mazahab ko choorne ki baat ker rahe hain uss per direct attack bhi samjha ja sakta hai aur ham es baat ko waquii mind ker rahe hain

      Last edited by Gul-e-Lala; 15 December 2006, 11:12.
      "All I have learned from Life is that I know nothing."




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      • Re: co education ko app kis nazar say deekhtay hain ???

        Originally posted by Gul-e-Lala View Post
        dekhye jaban

        meri jaban (zaban ) ko kia hoa hay i think it is alright :)
        just kidding i think you have tried to write janab


        ab ager aap behas baraye behas ker rahe hain tou ham kuch bhi nahi keh sakte. aap ko pehle bhi kaha tha k aap hamare first reply ko ghore se perrhye

        me not doing behas baraye behas
        ab kitna ghor sey paroon

        Khudanakhwasta ham ye kyun kahen k Islamic shaaar mein tabdeeli lae jaye.

        main ney kab kaha key app yeh kahoo gay
        main ney ideology jis key mutabik ager loog mature hoon to co environment ka koi farak naeen parta us key barey main kaha tha

        again i am not pointing towords you
        if you again said this , i will surely hit my head with the wall

        soch mein tabdeeli se hamari murad ye hai k aik taraf tou ham apne buchon ko apni religious aur cultural values ko apnane per zore dete hain aur doosri taraf hamara media her college uni ko love garden ki surat mein pesh kerta hai tou young minds k liye es se attract hona koi anhoni nahi hai.

        you are 100% right

        but don't say media presents it like this
        they are


        humain apni society k her pehloo ko apni values say match kerne ki zaroorat hai tabhi sutdents institutes ko study place samjhen gey aur bhot si burayan khatam ho sakti hain.


        again 100% correct


        anyways I am positive k aap ko es baat mein bhi koi niya pehloo nazer aa jaye ga


        hmm

        ye human instict hai k one seeks for partners lakin bhaee sahib kisi se professional ya work related baat kerna es zumre main nahi aata.

        if that is in a group not lonely ie one to one

        kher leave it ham zayada behas mein nahi perrna chahte. rather....
        okey as you wish


        aur aik baat aur ALLAH ka shuker hai being muslim and being an eastern I am sticking to my norms(shayed bhot se so called Pak and religious logon se zayada) aur kisi ko ye kehna k aap Deen Mazahab ko choorne ki baat ker rahe hain uss per direct attack bhi samjha ja sakta hai aur ham es baat ko waquii mind ker rahe hain
        i am going to hit my head with the wall .....................
        i have not pointed towords you rather towards these days natural trends

        but if you have really mind it okey
        sorry from myself
        People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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        • Re: co education ko app kis nazar say deekhtay hain ???

          Originally posted by filbahere View Post
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          meri jaban (zaban ) ko kia hoa hay i think it is alright :)
          just kidding i think you have tried to write janab




          main ney kab kaha key app yeh kahoo gay
          main ney ideology jis key mutabik ager loog mature hoon to co environment ka koi farak naeen parta us key barey main kaha tha

          again i am not pointing towords you
          if you again said this , i will surely hit my head with the wall


          you are 100% right






          again 100% correct



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          okey as you wish


          i am going to hit my head with the wall .....................
          i have not pointed towords you rather towards these days natural trends

          but if you have really mind it okey
          sorry from myself
          ji ham ne Janab he likhne ki koshish ki thi. shukriya aur dont hit ur head againt wall. deewar toot gae tou bara nuqsan ho jaye ga :khi:(kidding)
          aur thanks k aap ko hamari baat thori si samjh aa gae. shuker hai :)
          anyways her jaga per ikhtlaf-e-raye tou hota hai aur hona chahye but ham ne baat kisi aur view se ki thi shayed I am not good at reflecting my ideas :( baherhal shukriya

          "All I have learned from Life is that I know nothing."




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          • Re: co education ko app kis nazar say deekhtay hain ???

            Originally posted by Gul-e-Lala View Post
            ji ham ne Janab he likhne ki koshish ki thi. shukriya aur dont hit ur head againt wall. deewar toot gae tou bara nuqsan ho jaye ga :khi:(kidding)
            aur thanks k aap ko hamari baat thori si samjh aa gae. shuker hai :)
            anyways her jaga per ikhtlaf-e-raye tou hota hai aur hona chahye but ham ne baat kisi aur view se ki thi shayed I am not good at reflecting my ideas :( baherhal shukriya
            ab hum kia kareen , hmm ney to apna head dewar main mar dia tha lakin Dewar ney hamara sath naeen dia and waheen ki waheen karee rahi and hmm apna sar sambaltey pir rahey haan

            np.com kabi kabi hmm ko baat samj aa jati hay , but sporadically ( kabi kabi )
            again np.com but app ney to sahee kahee thee ghalti hmm sey hoi thee key answer to app ko ker rahey they lakin general ideas ko lay ker bett gaey they
            jis ki waja sey app ko perishani hoi

            chaleen take care
            and be happy
            and forn loly pop lay ker khaeen and mood accha kareen just esay :lpop:
            naeen to main apna sar youn nochanay lagoon ga :pagal: pehlay hi takar khaney key baad sahee dard ker raha hay
            People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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            • Re: co education ko app kis nazar say deekhtay hain ???

              Originally posted by filbahere View Post
              ab hum kia kareen , hmm ney to apna head dewar main mar dia tha lakin Dewar ney hamara sath naeen dia and waheen ki waheen karee rahi and hmm apna sar sambaltey pir rahey haan

              np.com kabi kabi hmm ko baat samj aa jati hay , but sporadically ( kabi kabi )
              again np.com but app ney to sahee kahee thee ghalti hmm sey hoi thee key answer to app ko ker rahey they lakin general ideas ko lay ker bett gaey they
              jis ki waja sey app ko perishani hoi

              chaleen take care
              and be happy
              and forn loly pop lay ker khaeen and mood accha kareen just esay :lpop:
              naeen to main apna sar youn nochanay lagoon ga :pagal: pehlay hi takar khaney key baad sahee dard ker raha hay
              chalen shuker hai deewar ko koi nuqsan nahi pohncha. :khi:aur hamara mood theek hai. ham difference of opinion ko mind nahi kerte lakin guftgoo ka rukh wring direction ko ho gaya tha. kher Thank u so much and I am sorry ager aap ko hamari koi baat buri lagi ho. aur plz sir nahi nochye ga es se behter hai deewar mein he sir de maren kyun k ab tou sabit ho gaya k koi nuqsan nahi ho ga:khi:(dont mind plz)

              "All I have learned from Life is that I know nothing."




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              • Re: co education ko app kis nazar say deekhtay hain ???

                Originally posted by Gul-e-Lala View Post
                chalen shuker hai deewar ko koi nuqsan nahi pohncha. :khi:aur hamara mood theek hai. ham difference of opinion ko mind nahi kerte lakin guftgoo ka rukh wring direction ko ho gaya tha. kher Thank u so much and I am sorry ager aap ko hamari koi baat buri lagi ho. aur plz sir nahi nochye ga es se behter hai deewar mein he sir de maren kyun k ab tou sabit ho gaya k koi nuqsan nahi ho ga:khi:(dont mind plz)
                :mm:
                People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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                • Re: MUBAHISA: Apka Khiyaal About Co-Education?

                  so wats the conclusion of all this on going debate...??
                  " Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off your goals "

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                  • Re: MUBAHISA: Apka Khiyaal About Co-Education?

                    Originally posted by Xenya View Post
                    so wats the conclusion of all this on going debate...??
                    co-education is not necessary this is the conclusion
                    People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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                    • Re: MUBAHISA: Apka Khiyaal About Co-Education?

                      i agree with filba pehalwaan

                      education is necessary...but not the co :blush:
                      :thmbup:

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                      • Re: MUBAHISA: Apka Khiyaal About Co-Education?

                        Originally posted by munda_sialkoty View Post
                        i agree with filba pehalwaan

                        education is necessary...but not the co :blush:
                        thankus:salam:
                        People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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                        • Re: MUBAHISA: Apka Khiyaal About Co-Education?

                          Salam
                          kehtay haiN k sabaq kisi say b seekha jaa sakta hay aur banda jiss taraf chahta hay nikal sakta hay kisi b raastay pay aur uss ko kuch na kuch zaroor hasil hota hay...
                          ham log sabaq seekhnay walay hoN to hamaray saamnay west ki aik bharpoor misaal hay k wahaaN b ab yai hi socha jaa raha hay k ham nay co ed kar k kya kamaya hay aur kya iss ko jaari rakhna chahiyai ya ya khatam kar daina chahiyai..
                          MISAAL; germany ka channel hay DW Tv uss pay germany k 3 maahireen taleem baiThay thay aur apni apni maahirana raaey sirf issi maamlay pay day rahay thay k hamaiN yai nizaam e taaleem khatam kar daina chahiyai.. baaqi aap khud log b issi G village maiN rehtay haiN k kya unn k muaashira ikhlaqi lehaaz say pasti ka shikaar nahi hay... jin logoN ko jaaez aulaad paida karnay pay inaam o ikraam say nawaza jata ho, shaadi aur khaandaani nizaam k baqaa ki koshishaiN jaari hoN.. wahaaN yai sabb kuch usi azad ikhtilaat ka nateeja hay jahaN bachay apnay kachchay zehnoN k sath aisi taaleem ka shikaar ho k sangeen ghaltiaaN kar baiThtay haiN. aur unn ki aulaad yai khamyaaza bhugat'ti hay.....
                          kya aap logoN maiN say wo log jo co ed maiN paRhtay haiN kya wahaaN taleem ka mayaar kitna ouncha ho jata hay.. mukhtalif campuses pay aaj kal dawn aur daily post maiN kuch features aa rahay haiN aap paRh k hairan hoNgae k students iss qadar girawaT ka shikaar haiN.. aur wajah sirf aur sirf co ed.....
                          mojju

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                          • Re: MUBAHISA: Apka Khiyaal About Co-Education?

                            Originally posted by mojju View Post
                            Salam
                            kehtay haiN k sabaq kisi say b seekha jaa sakta hay aur banda jiss taraf chahta hay nikal sakta hay kisi b raastay pay aur uss ko kuch na kuch zaroor hasil hota hay...
                            ham log sabaq seekhnay walay hoN to hamaray saamnay west ki aik bharpoor misaal hay k wahaaN b ab yai hi socha jaa raha hay k ham nay co ed kar k kya kamaya hay aur kya iss ko jaari rakhna chahiyai ya ya khatam kar daina chahiyai..
                            MISAAL; germany ka channel hay DW Tv uss pay germany k 3 maahireen taleem baiThay thay aur apni apni maahirana raaey sirf issi maamlay pay day rahay thay k hamaiN yai nizaam e taaleem khatam kar daina chahiyai.. baaqi aap khud log b issi G village maiN rehtay haiN k kya unn k muaashira ikhlaqi lehaaz say pasti ka shikaar nahi hay... jin logoN ko jaaez aulaad paida karnay pay inaam o ikraam say nawaza jata ho, shaadi aur khaandaani nizaam k baqaa ki koshishaiN jaari hoN.. wahaaN yai sabb kuch usi azad ikhtilaat ka nateeja hay jahaN bachay apnay kachchay zehnoN k sath aisi taaleem ka shikaar ho k sangeen ghaltiaaN kar baiThtay haiN. aur unn ki aulaad yai khamyaaza bhugat'ti hay.....
                            kya aap logoN maiN say wo log jo co ed maiN paRhtay haiN kya wahaaN taleem ka mayaar kitna ouncha ho jata hay.. mukhtalif campuses pay aaj kal dawn aur daily post maiN kuch features aa rahay haiN aap paRh k hairan hoNgae k students iss qadar girawaT ka shikaar haiN.. aur wajah sirf aur sirf co ed.....
                            mojju
                            I agree with u Mr. Mojju

                            I think Co-Education apne aap mein he aik kism ki behayai he...koi manay ya na manay, but its my experience :lpop:
                            :thmbup:

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                            • Re: MUBAHISA: Apka Khiyaal About Co-Education?

                              sha'ooor ko "magic-key" bana lo .. to Co-edu is a positive step :)
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                              • Re: MUBAHISA: Apka Khiyaal About Co-Education?

                                Originally posted by Aania View Post
                                sha'ooor ko "magic-key" bana lo .. to Co-edu is a positive step :)

                                it cant b a positive step in any case sis!

                                c post # 71,82:)

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