MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

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Surrogate Mother (to hire a woman 4 tranfering fetus till delivery)

Let me tell about Surrogate Mother:
Jab koi lady pregnant ho jaye, aur kisi wajah se wo fetus rakhne ka qaabil nahi ho to wo Kiraaye pe kisi dusrey aurat ke Uteras mein wo fetussurrogate mother
Original mother aur surrogate mother ke beech qanoonan agreement hota hai,

Last Friday (November 10, 2006) ko Indore (India, Madha Pardesh) ke akhbar mein ek ad aaya,





Inn dino surrogate mother ka role Western countries mein increase ho raha hai, aur

In the way of moral and social kya yeh thik hai ?

[Shaim]

Re: Surrogate Mother : What is your view

i dont think that it wud have some Moral or Spiritual Value In ISLAM.
ye topic aisa hai k is per buhat open discussion nahi ho sakti otherwise i may tell something
MAAN ko "MAAN" ka darja hi is liye mila hai k wo is poory period main her tarah k probs jheel ker ik baby ko birth deti hai......ager ye sab kaam koi or aurat kary jesa k aisa koi concept hi nahi......or phir baby us se le lena.......socially it is very panic.....

or humin aisa koi concept ISLAM nahi deta to ye thiik nahi ho sakta......+ us baby k Father k liye surrogate mother ik na-mehram aurat hai......so off course then she is not the real mother of that child.......but still then......probs to us aurat ne uthayin us baby k liye beshak pesoon k liye uthayin
to us baby ki to phir 2 Moms hoyin......but legally to 1 Mom hain.....:cc:
ye sab to mere lye bhi buhat confusing hai per in my view this is not correct decision 2 hire a surrogate mother

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Re: MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

is pay to ham kuch nahi keh saktay kay yeh test tube babies ka system islam main hai ya nahi ....yeh science nay bhi mulla logoo ko tang kar reakha hai rooz nai nai chzeeian ejaad kar rehay hain or pher shareyat main yeh masla uthaya jata hai :hehe:

[abdulwahab]

Re: MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

MR SPY
ISLAM NAY AORAT KO MAAN KA DARJA DIYA HAI AUR
MAAN KAY KADMOON KAY NECHAY ''JANNAT'' RAKHI HAI.
IS LIYAE NAHI KEH WOH DOOSRI AORAT KAY BACHAY HIRE KER SACAY.
BAQI SAB HARAAM HAI.
ANCHAL SAHIBA AAP APNAY ALFAAZ''MULA LOG'' ZARA SAHI KERAIN.GHALIBAN AAP NAY YEH LAFAZ MAZAQ KAY TOOR PER KAHA HAI
AIK BAT YAAD RAKHAIN KEH AAP IN ''MULLA LOG'' KI AHMIYYAT NAHI JANTI AGER JANTI HOTIN TOO...........
BAS ITNA HI BUHAT HAI KEH HUM SAB IN KI WAJA SAY HI QAIM HAIN
AKALMAND KAY LIYAE ASHARA HEE KAFI HOTA HAI.

AUR AIK BAAT AUR MR SPY
SHYD BUHAT KAM LOGON KO PATA HO KEH
HER AORAT MAAN NAHI HOTI

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Re: MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

Off Course Maan ka darja bahut aa'la hai

Please note this point
Yeh Surrogacy bhi to woh chiz hai jo ek aurat ko maan ka darja de raha hai wo aise ke kai aurtein jo kuchh kami ki wajah se she is not capable to become a mother...maan ban sakti hai.

Surrogate mother ki zaroorat kyon pad rahi hai...?

shahyad iss liye ke
1.) kuchh aurtein is not capable to become a mother

2.) some ladies yeh sochti hain ke maan ban-ne se unki khubsoorti chali jayengi aur profession mein rukawat padegi...(Working women, Actress, Sports woman)

3.) Some ladies ko time pe kahiin attend karna ho, koi task pura karna ho...jaise Tennis player ki khiladi, ya abroad jaaney ka program ho jo life and future ke liye bahut bahut hi zaroori hai, aur pregnancy ke haalat mein travel nahin kar sakti.


and many more...expecting more views from you either 'for or against' will be appreciate

Thanks

[Shaim]

Re: MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

Off Course Maan ka darja bahut aa'la hai

Please note this point
Yeh Surrogacy bhi to woh chiz hai jo ek aurat ko maan ka darja de raha hai wo aise ke kai aurtein jo kuchh kami ki wajah se she is not capable to become a mother...maan ban sakti hai.

Surrogate mother ki zaroorat kyon pad rahi hai...?

shahyad iss liye ke
1.) kuchh aurtein is not capable to become a mother

2.) some ladies yeh sochti hain ke maan ban-ne se unki khubsoorti chali jayengi aur profession mein rukawat padegi...(Working women, Actress, Sports woman)

3.) Some ladies ko time pe kahiin attend karna ho, koi task pura karna ho...jaise Tennis player ki khiladi, ya abroad jaaney ka program ho jo life and future ke liye bahut bahut hi zaroori hai, aur pregnancy ke haalat mein travel nahin kar sakti.


and many more...expecting more views from you either 'for or against' will be appreciate

Thanks

jab ap shadi kerte ho to ye ik responsibility hai koi khail nahi hai na spy bhai....
other tasks r imp but not more than the nourishement n life of ur child.
ye sports,showbiz.....ye sab cheezin baad main aati hain ager kise ne inko importance deni ho to wo shadi hi mat kary ya kary to.........mother ban'ne ka mat sochey ager koi apne babies ko nahi sanbhal sakta to

wo baby bara ho ker kia kahy ga k Mother kon hain uski?

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Re: MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

jab ap shadi kerte ho to ye ik responsibility hai koi khail nahi hai na spy bhai....
other tasks r imp but not more than the nourishement n life of ur child.
ye sports,showbiz.....ye sab cheezin baad main aati hain ager kise ne inko importance deni ho to wo shadi hi mat kary ya kary to.........mother ban'ne ka mat sochey ager koi apne babies ko nahi sanbhal sakta to

wo baby bara ho ker kia kahy ga k Mother kon hain uski?

Truly said...and I am agreed...

Then Surrogacy ko qanoonan support kyon mil raha hai

Surrogacy kyon badh raha hai

Aurtein kyon Surrogate Mother ki talash kar rahi hain

Yehan pe qasoorwar koun hai...ek aurat hi hai na...jo apne profession ke wajah se maan kahlane ka haqq kho rahi hai.

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Re: MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

MR SPY
ANCHAL SAHIBA AAP APNAY ALFAAZ''MULA LOG'' ZARA SAHI KERAIN.GHALIBAN AAP NAY YEH LAFAZ MAZAQ KAY TOOR PER KAHA HAI
AIK BAT YAAD RAKHAIN KEH AAP IN ''MULLA LOG'' KI AHMIYYAT NAHI JANTI AGER JANTI HOTIN TOO...........
BAS ITNA HI BUHAT HAI KEH HUM SAB IN KI WAJA SAY HI QAIM HAIN
AKALMAND KAY LIYAE ASHARA HEE KAFI HOTA HAI.

HER AORAT MAAN NAHI HOTI

Mulla loog kahain ya mulaooun kahain jumla donoo taraha say hi sahi banta hai .is main koi ghalat baat nahi hai .....
or mullaoun ki ehmeyat ka aap nay kaha hai to zarori nahi saray mulla achay houn or zarori nahi saray hi booray houn :rose

[abdulwahab]

Re: MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

Mulla loog kahain ya mulaooun kahain jumla donoo taraha say hi sahi banta hai .is main koi ghalat baat nahi hai .....
or mullaoun ki ehmeyat ka aap nay kaha hai to zarori nahi saray mulla achay houn or zarori nahi saray hi booray houn :rose

NAHI MISS AAP KAY ALFAAZ GALAT HAIN.

LAGTA HAI KEH AAP KO ''MULLA'' KA MATLAB NAHI PATA
AIK BAT YAAD RAKHAIN KEH
MULLA KABHI GALAT NAHI HOTA, HAAN,, HER INSAN ''MULLA'' NAHI HO SACTA.
HAMARI QAOM KA YAHI BARA ZALIMANA RAWAYA HAI KHUD HEE KAY SATH
KAY HUM ''MULLA'' LOGON SAY NAFRAT KERTAY HAIN UN KO ''INTEHA PASAND'' KEHTAY HAIN.

[abdulwahab]

Re: MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

Truly said...and I am agreed...

Then Surrogacy ko qanoonan support kyon mil raha hai

Surrogacy kyon badh raha hai

Aurtein kyon Surrogate Mother ki talash kar rahi hain

Yehan pe qasoorwar koun hai...ek aurat hi hai na...jo apne profession ke wajah se maan kahlane ka haqq kho rahi hai.

MERAY BHI QASOOR WAAR AORAT HEE HAI.
YEH AORAT KA KHUD HEE KAY SAATH BUHAT BARA ZALIMANA QADAM HAI KEH WOH ''MAAN'' KA DARJA CHOOR KER KHUD HEE AIK ''KATH PUTLI'' BAN RAHI HAI.
MUAASHRAY MAIN HOTAY HOAY HER BURAY KAM KI ZEEMADAR AORAT HEE HAI

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Re: MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

NAHI MISS AAP KAY ALFAAZ GALAT HAIN.

LAGTA HAI KEH AAP KO ''MULLA'' KA MATLAB NAHI PATA
AIK BAT YAAD RAKHAIN KEH
MULLA KABHI GALAT NAHI HOTA, HAAN,, HER INSAN ''MULLA'' NAHI HO SACTA.
HAMARI QAOM KA YAHI BARA ZALIMANA RAWAYA HAI KHUD HEE KAY SATH
KAY HUM ''MULLA'' LOGON SAY NAFRAT KERTAY HAIN UN KO ''INTEHA PASAND'' KEHTAY HAIN.

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Re: MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

NAHI MISS AAP KAY ALFAAZ GALAT HAIN.

LAGTA HAI KEH AAP KO ''MULLA'' KA MATLAB NAHI PATA
AIK BAT YAAD RAKHAIN KEH
MULLA KABHI GALAT NAHI HOTA, HAAN,, HER INSAN ''MULLA'' NAHI HO SACTA.
HAMARI QAOM KA YAHI BARA ZALIMANA RAWAYA HAI KHUD HEE KAY SATH
KAY HUM ''MULLA'' LOGON SAY NAFRAT KERTAY HAIN UN KO ''INTEHA PASAND'' KEHTAY HAIN.

Ham mazoo'u se bhatak kar mullah pe aa gaye...mullah hi wo log hai jo hamey disturb kar rakha hai...ghalatiyan kartey hian wo aur aap ke jaisa kahtey hain ke sab se pehle mulla ko ghalat nahin kahna...kah ke logon ko daratey hain...aur saari burey kaanamey sar anjaam detey hain...takey darey huwe log unhen koi bura na kahe, kahney per wo inteha pasan ho gaya...

aur mulla ghalat nahin ho sakta ...kyon nahin ghalat ho sakta kya wo farishtey hain....

mulla pe bahas main aap se baad mein karoonga. ab isko majid aage naa badhayen. FULL STOP.

[abdulwahab]

Re: MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

Ham mazoo'u se bhatak kar mullah pe aa gaye...mullah hi wo log hai jo hamey disturb kar rakha hai...ghalatiyan kartey hian wo aur aap ke jaisa kahtey hain ke sab se pehle mulla ko ghalat nahin kahna...kah ke logon ko daratey hain...aur saari burey kaanamey sar anjaam detey hain...takey darey huwe log unhen koi bura na kahe, kahney per wo inteha pasan ho gaya...

aur mulla ghalat nahin ho sakta ...kyon nahin ghalat ho sakta kya wo farishtey hain....

mulla pe bahas main aap se baad mein karoonga. ab isko majid aage naa badhayen. FULL STOP.

ARAY O ''ROSHAN KHIAL'' LARKAY
SAB SAY PEHLAY TOO TUM MUJH KO YEH BATAO KEH MULLA HOTA KIA HAI?
MULLA FARISHTA NAHI HOTA LAKIN MULLA KAY MOQAAM TAK POOHANCHNAY KAY LIYAE INSAN KO BUHAT SEE STAGES SAY GUZARNA PERTA HAI.IS LIYAE HER INSAN MULLA NAHI HOTA.
TUM JAISAY ''ROSHAN KHIAL'' LOG AAJ KAL KHUD ISLAM KI TALEEM SAY DOOR HO AUR BEKHIALI MAIN ISLAM KI TALEM DAINAY WALON KO ''INTEHA PASAND'' KEHTAY HO.JAB KEH TUM LOG KHUD INTEHA PASAND HO.
TELL ME ANSWER OF ''MULLA''.THEN I WILL TELL U
OKZ
MR ROSHAN KHIAL''
PHIR MILTAY HAIN

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ARAY O ''ROSHAN KHIAL'' LARKAY
SAB SAY PEHLAY TOO TUM MUJH KO YEH BATAO KEH MULLA HOTA KIA HAI?
MULLA FARISHTA NAHI HOTA LAKIN MULLA KAY MOQAAM TAK POOHANCHNAY KAY LIYAE INSAN KO BUHAT SEE STAGES SAY GUZARNA PERTA HAI.IS LIYAE HER INSAN MULLA NAHI HOTA.
TUM JAISAY ''ROSHAN KHIAL'' LOG AAJ KAL KHUD ISLAM KI TALEEM SAY DOOR HO AUR BEKHIALI MAIN ISLAM KI TALEM DAINAY WALON KO ''INTEHA PASAND'' KEHTAY HO.JAB KEH TUM LOG KHUD INTEHA PASAND HO.
TELL ME ANSWER OF ''MULLA''.THEN I WILL TELL U
OKZ
MR ROSHAN KHIAL''
PHIR MILTAY HAIN

Maine uper reply mein bataya naa Mamu...ke aap topic se hatt kar baat kar rahey hain.

Munh mein zubaan ham bhi rakhtey hain
Kaash puchho ke maddu'a kya hai

Insha Allah apke subject "Mulla kya hai" per guftugu aur bahas zaroor karoon ga, iske liye aap alag se post kyon nahin laga detey.

[abdulwahab]

Re: MUBAHISA: Surrogate Mother;What is your view

Maine uper reply mein bataya naa Mamu...ke aap topic se hatt kar baat kar rahey hain.

Munh mein zubaan ham bhi rakhtey hain
Kaash puchho ke maddu'a kya hai

Insha Allah apke subject "Mulla kya hai" per guftugu aur bahas zaroor karoon ga, iske liye aap alag se post kyon nahin laga detey.

PEHLI BAAT TOO YEH HAI KEH YEH MULLA WALI BAAT MAIN NAY ''ANCHAL'' KAY JAWAB MAIN LIKHI HAI.TERI BAAT KA JAWAB MAIN DAY CHUKA HON ''MAAN'' WALI BAAT KA.OK
AUR IS KAY LIYAE KOI NIA THREAD ZAROORI NAHI.TUM JAWAB DO.MAIN INTEZAAR KER RAHA HON.
AUR AIK BAAT AUR.
HER KOI APNI ''MAAN KI TARBIYAT'' LAFZOON KI SOORAT MAIN BIYAAN KERTA HAI.KIA TUMHARI MAAN NAY TUMHARI YAHI TERBIYAT KI HAI KEH TUM DOSROON KO ''MAMOON'' KAHOO.:cc:
''MUNH MAIN TERAY ZABAN AGER HOTI
MUDDA JAN KER BHEE TOO ANJAN NA HOTA''