MUBAHISA: Islam aur Ham??

[Z.]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Quran wo kitaab hai .. jisey samajh aa jaye Jannat us ki ..
Parents ya barron ko blame nahen ker saktey har giz .. kion wo hamen skool bhi bhejtey hain .. jab ham wahan usey continoue rakhtey hein apney liye fields chuntey hein .. to definately .. Ashraful makhlooqaat honey ki waja se .. ham aqal band to ho jatey hein .. kam aqal bhi lekin kabhi BE AQAL nahen ho saktey .. is liye jo soch sawal ker sakti hai .. wohi soch QURAN PAAK ko open ker ke parhey samjhey to kion kar har sawal ka jawab nahen milta ..
ye do sawal sirf DO sawal nahen hain .. CHAIN of questions ban jaatey hein .. aur yehi aap ko yehan .. nazar bhi aaye gaa .. Well I would like to bring Aayah from Quran to explain the answer n reasons in detail. inshaAllah soon

Aania thanks to be here:rose

now let me v clear my intentions for starting this thread

dear mey ney yahan kisi ko blame nahi kiya hai----aur na hi mey chahti hun key yahan aik blame game shuru ho jaye

ab aap key points ki taraf aatey hein

1-Parents hamein school bhi bhejtey hein

honestly Aania.........wo hamein school bhejtey hein .........hamari anual reports hoti hien............teacher key sath communications hoti hein.......Parents concern hotey hein........bacha kitna seekh gaya hai kitna nahi..........us key concepts kitney clear hein.........kitney nahi

aap ko physics ki ya kisi bhi subject us waqt tak samaj nahi aati jab tak aap key concepts na clear hon

anyways this is going off topic

kya wo itney hi concern hamari Islamic learning mey hotey hein? except namaz seykhaney key ya Quran reading seykhaney key?

Ab hamara time hai key hum is pey sochien ........ta key inshAllah apney choton ko aur phir as Parents hum apney bachon key liye concern hon .....in sabhi baaton key liye.......not only for worldly education but also for Islamic edu.

Meyra sawal jo hai wo sirf do sawal nahi hein Aania

ye sirf aik "stop sighn" hai "to pause and think wat Islam is."............kya hum sab itney mukhtalif aaq'aid key sath aik Mazhab key peyro kaar kaheen sey lagtey hein .........Nahi na

then there is something wrong

wer are not practicing true Islam

so we should go back to the Roots.....

this is my point

I hope u understand wat i really want to say inshAllah

[Z.]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

main ny siraf aap kee post dekhai thee pehly...aur main ny quote bee osy kia tha....:wk

i hope ab tak perh li hon gi pichli posts bhi :thmbup:

point to aik aam sa hay per masood bhai ny aap kee tareef kiun ker di:donno:

Masood bro. ney meyri tareef ker di :cc:

wo to mujhey journalist keh rahey they :hehe:

shaid main yeh kehna chah raha tha k jo main ny Un k bary main stdy kia hay...

khl Islam mey "Shayad" ki jaga "yaqeen" sey baat ki jati hai:thmbup:

aap ka jo bhi matlab tha us baat sey u can just say it.....inshAllah
aur MashAllah v good to know that you studied islam...kaisey , kahan sey, aur kya difference aap khud feel kertey ho

i hope we all wud learn from it inshAllah

Khuda ny mujy aik adad Aqal e saleem dee hay....main achy aur bury main pehchan ker sakta haun...es liy apny dill kee baat bee manta hun...

:thmbup:

lakin aap mera yeh bee reply nahi samji........main aur aap sab jantay hian k Islam aik mukamal zabta hiyat hay............lakin es doar main jaisy k hum ny Islam ko apni marzi key mutabik bana lia hay ...Islam kee wo Rooh nahi hay hamary pass to pher es liy ka tha k humain Neutral bann k sochna pary ga..

Han main janta hun ager hum 100% muslim huntooo

khl yahi to mey ney apni reply mey kaha tha na

"get back to the Roots"

ye phir mey kahun gi key itney mukhtalif beliefs key sath hum AIK Islam sey taa'luk rakhney waley nahi rakhtey hein

hum sahih islam nahi follow ker rahey hein

we should only stick to Quran and SUnnah.......ta key koi bhi hamein ghalt simat pey na daal sakey

[Aania]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Aania thanks to be here:rose

now let me v clear my intentions for starting this thread

dear mey ney yahan kisi ko blame nahi kiya hai----aur na hi mey chahti hun key yahan aik blame game shuru ho jaye

ab aap key points ki taraf aatey hein

1-Parents hamein school bhi bhejtey hein

honestly Aania.........wo hamein school bhejtey hein .........hamari anual reports hoti hien............teacher key sath communications hoti hein.......Parents concern hotey hein........bacha kitna seekh gaya hai kitna nahi..........us key concepts kitney clear hein.........kitney nahi

aap ko physics ki ya kisi bhi subject us waqt tak samaj nahi aati jab tak aap key concepts na clear hon

anyways this is going off topic

kya wo itney hi concern hamari Islamic learning mey hotey hein? except namaz seykhaney key ya Quran reading seykhaney key?

Ab hamara time hai key hum is pey sochien ........ta key inshAllah apney choton ko aur phir as Parents hum apney bachon key liye concern hon .....in sabhi baaton key liye.......not only for worldly education but also for Islamic edu.

Meyra sawal jo hai wo sirf do sawal nahi hein Aania

ye sirf aik "stop sighn" hai "to pause and think wat Islam is."............kya hum sab itney mukhtalif aaq'aid key sath aik Mazhab key peyro kaar kaheen sey lagtey hein .........Nahi na

then there is something wrong

wer are not practicing true Islam

so we should go back to the Roots.....

this is my point

I hope u understand wat i really want to say inshAllah

here I would like to tell you ...

Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah .. main jis ghar main peda huii wahan maan ke roop mein angel diya Allah ne baap ke roop mein saiibaan ... haan jis daur mein .. early childhood hamen Quran Paak parrhney bheja gia to na sirf meri mom ne diary banayee thee nemaz n learning points ki balkeh hamari teacher ne bhi diary banayee thee... hamen usi waqt nemaz ka matlab mafhoom samjha diya gia thaa... mujh mein agar Allah ko Allah ke deen ko jaan-ney ka jazba hai .. to sab meri mom ki n meri Quran parhaney wali teacher ki waja se .. hamarey knowledge mein ye baaten tabhi daal di gayeen theeen .. ke islam aur sawal ka kia ta'luq hai sawal poochney se mumaniat nahen lekin jawab Quran hai .. ye hamari kamzori hai .. ham agar time clock ko dekh ker lecture attend karen to ham apney liye khud problems barhatey hein ..

main Islam parhaney walon ko ya kisi ko bhi koi blame nahen ker rahi ..
is liye dont worry ..
Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah .. jo bachpan mein sikhaya yaad kerwaya gia Alhamdulillah aaj bhi yaad hai Chahey Surah Yaseen ho, Ibrahim aleyhi salam ka waqiya , Ismail aleyeh salam ka waqya , Deen e Islam, Rasool Allah PBUH ki life, Allah ke angles, angels ke kaam , sidratul munteha ..Surah Mulk, surah Waqiya, Surah waqiya ki fazeelat, Yaseen ki fazeelat, Surah baqra ki aakhri aayat, 30th parah, Surah Jumma, surah Muzammil.. baat samajhney ki hai bachpan se aaj tak Alhamdulillah jo parents n asatiza ne diya hamari life pe unke ehsaan hai ... Alhamdulillah
May Allah bless them aamen.

[Mr. Sialkoty]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Bravo!!


Quran ko samaj key perhney key liye kya steps leyney chahiyein??

jese Neem hakeem hatra-e-jaan hota he, isi tarah gair mustnid ustaad bhi khatra-e-emaan hota he...kisi mustanad ustaad ko dhondiye :)

[Muhammad Khalil]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

i hope ab tak perh li hon gi pichli posts bhi :thmbup:

Nahi abi nahi dekhii...sasri nazer mari hay..bus aik dosry ko nicha dekhani kee koshash kee hy sab ny...:wk

Masood bro. ney meyri tareef ker di :cc:

wo to mujhey journalist keh rahey they :hehe:

aakhooo gee

khl Islam mey "Shayad" ki jaga "yaqeen" sey baat ki jati hai:thmbup:

ager hum main etna yakeen huta to yeh behas na huti...abi hamar Emaan kee kafee kamzoor hay.

aap ka jo bhi matlab tha us baat sey u can just say it.....inshAllah

InshaALLAH:pagal:

aur MashAllah v good to know that you studied islam...kaisey , kahan sey, aur kya difference aap khud feel kertey ho

Thanks main khudh ko buhat hee BURA aur as Abdulwahab(ny jo tareef kee hay muslim kee) wo samjta hun buhat hee kamzoor emaan wala..hamary samny GUNAH huty hian aur hum chup ker k bethy rehty hian

i hope we all wud learn from it inshAllah

sureeeeeeeeeeeee

:thmbup:

:em:

khl yahi to mey ney apni reply mey kaha tha na

"get back to the Roots"

ye phir mey kahun gi key itney mukhtalif beliefs key sath hum AIK Islam sey taa'luk rakhney waley nahi rakhtey hein

surely hum main wo islam nahi hay .humain apny ROOTS kee koi parwa hee nahi

hum sahih islam nahi follow ker rahey hein

yeh to aap janti hee hungee.........:na:

we should only stick to Quran and SUnnah.......ta key koi bhi hamein ghalt simat pey na daal sakey

gee bilkul....................humain to siraf HAzrat Muhammad PBUH ka akhri KHUTBA yaad hun to sab kuch theek hu jay gaa..

[Z.]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

here I would like to tell you ...

Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah .. main jis ghar main peda huii wahan maan ke roop mein angel diya Allah ne baap ke roop mein saiibaan ... haan jis daur mein .. early childhood hamen Quran Paak parrhney bheja gia to na sirf meri mom ne diary banayee thee nemaz n learning points ki balkeh hamari teacher ne bhi diary banayee thee... hamen usi waqt nemaz ka matlab mafhoom samjha diya gia thaa... mujh mein agar Allah ko Allah ke deen ko jaan-ney ka jazba hai .. to sab meri mom ki n meri Quran parhaney wali teacher ki waja se .. hamarey knowledge mein ye baaten tabhi daal di gayeen theeen .. ke islam aur sawal ka kia ta'luq hai sawal poochney se mumaniat nahen lekin jawab Quran hai .. ye hamari kamzori hai .. ham agar time clock ko dekh ker lecture attend karen to ham apney liye khud problems barhatey hein ..

main Islam parhaney walon ko ya kisi ko bhi koi blame nahen ker rahi ..
is liye dont worry ..
Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah .. jo bachpan mein sikhaya yaad kerwaya gia Alhamdulillah aaj bhi yaad hai Chahey Surah Yaseen ho, Ibrahim aleyhi salam ka waqiya , Ismail aleyeh salam ka waqya , Deen e Islam, Rasool Allah PBUH ki life, Allah ke angles, angels ke kaam , sidratul munteha ..Surah Mulk, surah Waqiya, Surah waqiya ki fazeelat, Yaseen ki fazeelat, Surah baqra ki aakhri aayat, 30th parah, Surah Jumma, surah Muzammil.. baat samajhney ki hai bachpan se aaj tak Alhamdulillah jo parents n asatiza ne diya hamari life pe unke ehsaan hai ... Alhamdulillah
May Allah bless them aamen.

:)


good for you :masha

carry on with it :thmbup:

[Z.]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Nahi abi nahi dekhii...sasri nazer mari hay..bus aik dosry ko nicha dekhani kee koshash kee hy sab ny...:wk

AstagfiruALlah

[Z.]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Nahi abi nahi dekhii...sasri nazer mari hay..bus aik dosry ko nicha dekhani kee koshash kee hy sab ny...:wk







aakhooo gee
ager hum main etna yakeen huta to yeh behas na huti...abi hamar Emaan kee kafee kamzoor hay.

InshaALLAH:pagal:
Thanks main khudh ko buhat hee BURA aur as Abdulwahab(ny jo tareef kee hay muslim kee) wo samjta hun buhat hee kamzoor emaan wala..hamary samny GUNAH huty hian aur hum chup ker k bethy rehty hian


sureeeeeeeeeeeee


:em:





surely hum main wo islam nahi hay .humain apny ROOTS kee koi parwa hee nahi
yeh to aap janti hee hungee.........:na:

gee bilkul....................humain to siraf HAzrat Muhammad PBUH ka akhri KHUTBA yaad hun to sab kuch theek hu jay gaa..

Ya Allah!

khl mey phir sey apni saari batein repeat karun yahan :)

[Spy009]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Ma'af karna main bahut dek ke baad iss thread ko dekha, aur pura padha nahin but unwan dekh ke samajh gaya k kis topic pe bahas chal rahi hai

kuchh din pehle main apney signature mein lagaya tha

ke Islam duniya ka sabse achcha aur sirf yehi ek mazhab hai but 'Hum' yaani musalman duniya ka sabse ganda qaum hain

Need to say more...I will tell you

[Z.]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Ma'af karna main bahut dek ke baad iss thread ko dekha, aur pura padha nahin but unwan dekh ke samajh gaya k kis topic pe bahas chal rahi hai

kuchh din pehle main apney signature mein lagaya tha

ke Islam duniya ka sabse achcha aur sirf yehi ek mazhab hai but 'Hum' yaani musalman duniya ka sabse ganda qaum hain

Need to say more...I will tell you

yes spy -- i remember

n sure inshAllah---anytime :thmbup:

[Spy009]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

yes spy -- i remember

n sure inshAllah---anytime :thmbup:

Yes...to suniye


Ek waqt tha jab Musalman ka ekhlaq dek ke kaafir bhi musalman hota tha, aaj Musalman ke ekhlaq dekh ke musalman kaafir ho raha hai

Non Muslim khuda ka khauf karta hai, but Muslaman nahin,

Ham ne dekha "Haram sharif" (khana Ka'aba) ke andar log jhoot bol ke paise maangtey hain, jeb kaTtey hain...

Ghair qaum to aisa nahin karta

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

sab aik baat suno plz
meray 2 thread aik hai ''firqa banddi ki haqeeqat'' aur doosra hai '''firqa aur haqeeqat'' in doonoo ko perhain inshaallah aap sab kuch samajh jain gay.

[Muhammad Khalil]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Ya Allah!

khl mey phir sey apni saari batein repeat karun yahan :)

Oho............main ny apna View paish ker dia hay ab yehan kuch bee nahi hay...

hum sab aik dosery key hee Khilaf hian............

[Z.]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Yes...to suniye


Ek waqt tha jab Musalman ka ekhlaq dek ke kaafir bhi musalman hota tha, aaj Musalman ke ekhlaq dekh ke musalman kaafir ho raha hai

Non Muslim khuda ka khauf karta hai, but Muslaman nahin,

Ham ne dekha "Haram sharif" (khana Ka'aba) ke andar log jhoot bol ke paise maangtey hain, jeb kaTtey hain...

Ghair qaum to aisa nahin karta

Aap sahih keh rahey ho spy

Yahan in Europeans ko deykh key hum kehtey hein key in logon mey bas Eman nahi hai baki kaam in key saarey musalman walon hein .........

honesty
commitment
punctuality

etc etc

[Muhammad Khalil]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Aap sahih keh rahey ho spy

Yahan in Europeans ko deykh key hum kehtey hein key in logon mey bas Eman nahi hai baki kaam in key saarey musalman walon hein .........

honesty
commitment
punctuality

etc etc

yehi to main kehna chah raha tha jo aap samaj nahi rahi thee...........:khi: