Philosophy

[Aania]

do we have to agree wid all facts of philosophy
such as
"Human Senses Always Decieve them " Senses Can Never Be true .
Do u guys agree with this thought of Donald Cress

If yes give details please please

[Masood]

Re: Philosophy

Aania agar aap yeh behas Urdu mein karein to achha lagey. Beharhaal Senses yah hiss ki bohat si misalein hain; dekhney, soonghney, chakhney, suneney aur mehsoos karney ki his to aik fact hain, inhein to aap kisi tor jhutlaa nahin saktey yeh to facts hain. Iskey key elawa sense ka ta'lluq consensus aur intelligence sey hota hai. Amooman insaan halaat aur waqeya ka mushahida kar key kuchh judge karta hai kuchh soch mein lata hai, jissey ham chhati hiss bhi kehtey hai. Yeh chhati hiss baaz oqa aisey faesley ya aisi sochein rakhti hai jo aagey chal kar sach sabit nahin hotin. Lekin in per bhi basa oqat aisey takhmeeney zehan mein aatye hain jo aagey chal kar sach sabit hotey hain.

Main ney Donald Cress ko nahin parha aur na hi uskey is dawey ki base jo jana hai. Magar falsafiyon key barey mein yeh bhi to kaha jata hai keh inhein khud samajh nahin hoti keh yeh soch kis baat per rahey hain :lol

Falsafi ko behas mein Khuda milta nahin
dor ko suljha raha hai magar sira milta nahin

[Muhammad Khalil]

Re: Philosophy

Aania agar aap yeh behas Urdu mein karein to achha lagey. Beharhaal Senses yah hiss ki bohat si misalein hain; dekhney, soonghney, chakhney, suneney aur mehsoos karney ki his to aik fact hain, inhein to aap kisi tor jhutlaa nahin saktey yeh to facts hain. Iskey key elawa sense ka ta'lluq consensus aur intelligence sey hota hai. Amooman insaan halaat aur waqeya ka mushahida kar key kuchh judge karta hai kuchh soch mein lata hai, jissey ham chhati hiss bhi kehtey hai. Yeh chhati hiss baaz oqa aisey faesley ya aisi sochein rakhti hai jo aagey chal kar sach sabit nahin hotin. Lekin in per bhi basa oqat aisey takhmeeney zehan mein aatye hain jo aagey chal kar sach sabit hotey hain.


Main ney Donald Cress ko nahin parha aur na hi uskey is dawey ki base jo jana hai. Magar falsafiyon key barey mein yeh bhi to kaha jata hai keh inhein khud samajh nahin hoti keh yeh soch kis baat per rahey hain :lol

Falsafi ko behas mein Khuda milta nahin
dor ko suljha raha hai magar sira milta nahin

my dear ....KHuda mil jata hay///
aur sab sy pehly hee khuda falsafi ko hee milta hay.
kiun k jo justajoo kerta hay khuda usy hee milta hay.
be happy....

[Masood]

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my dear ....KHuda mil jata hay///
aur sab sy pehly hee khuda falsafi ko hee milta hay.
kiun k jo justajoo kerta hay khuda usy hee milta hay.
be happy....

Pyarey bhai dekh to likha hai ".... BEHAS key ander...".
Jis falsafey ko ham jantey hain woh KYA, KYUN, KAISEY aur KAB ki buniyad per qaeem hai. Jab falsafi is behas mein parr geya keh KYA, KAB huwa aur KAISEY huwa aur KYUN huwa to wahan per behas ka ko anjam nahin hota. Aur is behas mein sochein muntashir ho jati hain, jab sochein muntashir ho jaein to Khuda to kya insaan khud ko kho deta hai. Allah Tala ko paaney key liye to BEHAS ki zaroorat tak nahin!

[Muhammad Khalil]

Re: Philosophy

Pyarey bhai dekh to likha hai ".... BEHAS key ander...".
Jis falsafey ko ham jantey hain woh KYA, KYUN, KAISEY aur KAB ki buniyad per qaeem hai. Jab falsafi is behas mein parr geya keh KYA, KAB huwa aur KAISEY huwa aur KYUN huwa to wahan per behas ka ko anjam nahin hota. Aur is behas mein sochein muntashir ho jati hain, jab sochein muntashir ho jaein to Khuda to kya insaan khud ko kho deta hai. Allah Tala ko paaney key liye to BEHAS ki zaroorat tak nahin!

nice bhai aap ny b khoob kaha hay...
khuda koo koon talash kerta hay wohi jiss k under yeh sawalat paida huty hain
k kia kiun aur kaisy....
aur ager yeh sawal hee na bany to pher sab kee tarah lakeer k fakeer kee tarah aram sy khudai maan lee jati hay...
humain beshak pata hay :alhamd: k khuda hay aur apni nishanion sy wazeh hay
:jazak:
lakin ager hum ...ghore kerain to tab hee pata chalta hay k khuda kider hay...
humara sab sy bara almiya hay k humain rook dia jata hy k yeh nahi soachna k khuda kider hay kaha hay aur kiun hay ..hamary under aik kisam ka fear..paida ker dia jata hay (Hamary Ulma khas ker) kee taraf sy ....k insaan pagal hu jata hay aur pata nahi kia kia.....
shaid es bary main mera Elam kam hu...
lakin bhai main b esi jawabat kee talash main hun k == kia kiun aur kaisy=
belive me bhai jab sy mery under yeh khawahish paida hui thi main ny buht sy buzug aur ulma-e-din sy rajooh kia tha mager sab ny hee mujy rook dia k tum es (RAPHER) main na paroo pagal hu jaoo gy...lakin nahi
mujy wo kuch hasal hu gia :alhamd: hay jiss ka main tasaver b nahi kia tha...
aur i belive hee k khuda siraf...kiun kaisy aur kider hee main milta hay.


aur han bhai waisy mozoo aania ka kuch aur tha aur nikal kai aur gia hay..take care

[Aania]

Re: Philosophy

Aania agar aap yeh behas Urdu mein karein to achha lagey. Beharhaal Senses yah hiss ki bohat si misalein hain; dekhney, soonghney, chakhney, suneney aur mehsoos karney ki his to aik fact hain, inhein to aap kisi tor jhutlaa nahin saktey yeh to facts hain. Iskey key elawa sense ka ta'lluq consensus aur intelligence sey hota hai. Amooman insaan halaat aur waqeya ka mushahida kar key kuchh judge karta hai kuchh soch mein lata hai, jissey ham chhati hiss bhi kehtey hai. Yeh chhati hiss baaz oqa aisey faesley ya aisi sochein rakhti hai jo aagey chal kar sach sabit nahin hotin. Lekin in per bhi basa oqat aisey takhmeeney zehan mein aatye hain jo aagey chal kar sach sabit hotey hain.

Main ney Donald Cress ko nahin parha aur na hi uskey is dawey ki base jo jana hai. Magar falsafiyon key barey mein yeh bhi to kaha jata hai keh inhein khud samajh nahin hoti keh yeh soch kis baat per rahey hain :lol

Falsafi ko behas mein Khuda milta nahin
dor ko suljha raha hai magar sira milta nahin

agree wid ur thoughts but when i was reading the book....it sounded to me kind of fight of real brain wid nature , or the fact they say 2+3= 5 in real sense but philosopher said as they r wild genius :cc: that 2+?= 3 or 5
huh kinda mathematical but then they said that maths has nuthing to do with senses ...............I am still getting so confused but neways thnx for replying ....atleast now i m relax koz i was goin to feel may be its just me who fights with his laws n sayings.....other senses matter ..... i was at this point tooo.... hey thnx again ....be happy.... tc :rose

[Aania]

Re: Philosophy

nice bhai aap ny b khoob kaha hay...
khuda koo koon talash kerta hay wohi jiss k under yeh sawalat paida huty hain
k kia kiun aur kaisy....
aur ager yeh sawal hee na bany to pher sab kee tarah lakeer k fakeer kee tarah aram sy khudai maan lee jati hay...
humain beshak pata hay :alhamd: k khuda hay aur apni nishanion sy wazeh hay
:jazak:
lakin ager hum ...ghore kerain to tab hee pata chalta hay k khuda kider hay...
humara sab sy bara almiya hay k humain rook dia jata hy k yeh nahi soachna k khuda kider hay kaha hay aur kiun hay ..hamary under aik kisam ka fear..paida ker dia jata hay (Hamary Ulma khas ker) kee taraf sy ....k insaan pagal hu jata hay aur pata nahi kia kia.....
shaid es bary main mera Elam kam hu...
lakin bhai main b esi jawabat kee talash main hun k == kia kiun aur kaisy=
belive me bhai jab sy mery under yeh khawahish paida hui thi main ny buht sy buzug aur ulma-e-din sy rajooh kia tha mager sab ny hee mujy rook dia k tum es (RAPHER) main na paroo pagal hu jaoo gy...lakin nahi
mujy wo kuch hasal hu gia :alhamd: hay jiss ka main tasaver b nahi kia tha...
aur i belive hee k khuda siraf...kiun kaisy aur kider hee main milta hay.


aur han bhai waisy mozoo aania ka kuch aur tha aur nikal kai aur gia hay..take care

aaap bhi philosopher ho? :cc:

[Muhammad Khalil]

Re: Philosophy

nahi hun
aaab ??

[Aania]

Re: Philosophy

nahi hun
aaab ??

:tang: nm u sound like naaa.... :lol

[Muhammad Khalil]

Re: Philosophy

nanann

[Aania]

Re: Philosophy

kion nahen neways u wan me to bring u more aspects of these kinda terminologies.....whether no ir yes I ll get them

[Muhammad Khalil]

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ok i got your point

[Aania]

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thnx God

[Spy009]

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do we have to agree wid all facts of philosophy

Senses Can Never Be true .

Absolutely wrong quote,
senses are always true

[Aania]

Re: Philosophy

Absolutely wrong quote,
senses are always true

but this quote is true....koz its in ma book....philosopher aisey hi to philosopher nahen na kehlaatey... ?