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[Mujahid Khan]

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Assalam alaikum.....
Today i am here to talk in favour of promoting English language.I accept urdu is our national language and very sweet language,bt we can't deny thay English language is also very important......It is used extensively as a second language and an official language throughout the world especially in pakistan , india , south africa and in many international organisations.English can be describes as a global language and its a dominant international language in communication, sciene, business and entertainment. English is currently the language most often studied and spoken by up to million people around the world, to at least a basic level.Nowadays Books, magazines, and newspapers written in English are available in many countries around the world.Its important for the betterment of the country.Today see china,its very fast growing country but they have not got success in international leval which they deserve,its because they cant speak english.so its very hard for them in international business like export business.
I am not against of speaking our national language,but we should promote english language in our country to come at an international level.Once Imran khan said......our country people are now aware the importance of english language........see any pak channel,in starting they will say few words in english bt then they start speaking in urdu.The only thing is to encourage them and promoting the language.

please don't mind wafa i don't agree with u because pakistan india and south africa were the coulonies of british so why we r still in english,for ur kind information china have reached to the level of the international market bc they are able to hit the english made shutals in the space and usa and britain are more worried about the expariment of non speaking english:khi:

[Mujahid Khan]

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Here are some of my points, more points would be given later.

:salam: Everyone

I have red Team A's discussion and points on promoting International language English. As they said in their points that English is a language, which is used worldwide for communication, technology, and etc. At this point they are right!

However, our language is our identity. We are known as Pakistani's and people know us by our culture and language. One is talking today on promoting English. Have you thought that why they are doing it? I believe that English people and English has promoted itself on a scale that most of us beleice that we can't be successful without English. Nevertheless, we have to consider that promoting one's won identity is more important. Here we are not talking about the basics of a language. But, when it comes to debate every point should be discuued. Today we are discussing this topic in English. We are doing it because most of people believe that written in Urdu will not be able for everyone to understand. And if it's written in Roman Urdu many people don't understand much. They believe that today who ever knows how to read and write, knows English better than Urdu. But, we ourselves, Urdu lovers have to work in order to promote our language. As Team A's member said that it is spoken all over the world. It's computer language and in order for us to be successful we have to start it from the kindergarten for students. We are studying this language because we want to be successful. However, we shouldn't forget our own language. This language has beautiful wording. The example is in front of you. This forum "Pegham.com" is here to provide us knowledge about our International Language and we are here to promote it. The English language is spoken worldwide and today there are many people who are in favor of it. This language was promoted because many people who invented different things were English speakers. They did it because they wanted to make sure that their language and identity should be known. They did it to promote their own language. But, if we want to prove ourselves on world stage. We have to work for our own language too, same as they did. Getting knowledge and understanding what is happening around the world is a different issue. But, proving ourselves by using our own identity, culture, and language is a different thing. If we want to promote our language and we are than we have to look at its positive side. Also, I believe that whatever has been created through this language is not beneficial as a Muslim for us. Okay, many better things are invented and are making our lives easier. But, on other hand these things are not beneficial for us as a responsible Muslim. The world won't ask us what we want to promote, we have to tell others that what we want to promote. So, my friends we have to promote our language.

very nice sister keep it up:phool:

[Mujahid Khan]

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The investment issue will not only put a good impact on price level but by saving this cost we can also put it another kind of work which would have a good impact on business and if an individual business move towards the success we will be a part of success of our economy.

here also i am not agree with u,if u r inforcing english for the sale of the product,first of all u will see that who is purchasing ur product in quantity if english people it's ok,and if french is purchasing ur product in quantity so they will accept the detail only in french not in english so the importance of the languages is on their own side,so u can inforce english on urdu but be care full u can't inforce english on french dutch italian
spainesh or any other languages when u r selling products to one of the above languages people:khi:

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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so what we are doing since from 1947?we are just talking in english since from 1947,but for ur kind information i shall tell you that qauid-i-azam did't mention for english,the main thing he mentioned is work work and only work,and in his fourteen points he only and only pointed out urdu language for the people of pakistan and we can get eduaction without english as the blind's get education without eyes:khi:

It is a common saying "energy flows from higher concentration to the lower concentration" and so does the technology. If we entirely change the medium of technlogy then we will have to face a big loss. We need to be competible with the advanced countries, we need to integrate ourselves with them...it is the demand of time. Our Native language is not as much powerful as English. It is the fact :)

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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please don't mind wafa i don't agree with u because pakistan india and south africa were the coulonies of british so why we r still in english,for ur kind information china have reached to the level of the international market bc they are able to hit the english made shutals in the space and usa and britain are more worried about the expariment of non speaking english:khi:

Sir it took centuries to China to reach at this level...we can't compare ourselves with china. What we need to look into is our current status, our current syllabous and schooling system, our integration with other countries, our sources and resources...nothing is permiting us to go for Urdu to become an advance country.

[Mujahid Khan]

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in most of the points i am agree with u here that's what i was trying to explain all of u that we need hard work, thinikng, focus on our good future but be care full don't focus on english we have made this mistake in the past as according to u our majisty king bahadur shah zafar had suffered by concertrating on english people's and english language:khi: and for ur kind information(sir sayyad ahmad khan's point have used two time here)if u r also intereted to take the reward of english governament like sir to sayyad ahmad khan then i think u r right:khi:

[Mujahid Khan]

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munda i will apriciate ur common sence that u have the power to convince people's but u have't enough proof to prove that english language is so neccesary for the development of science and tecknolgy,i am surprised that why u people are pushing english for the development of science and tecknolgy as the ground realities r so dangerous at the movement bc usa and britain r not interested in the developments of science and tecknolog especialy for pakistan and other muslim countries and the countries who r in the favour of muslims like china,so why we should't encourage chinese instead of english,for example usa israil and britain are supporting india in the field of neuclier tecknology and they r inforcing economical restrictions on iran,they have sined agreements with india to create more and more neuclier weapons and when they get know that pakistan have launched another new neuclier plant in khushaab they get worried, but as we all know that usa and britain r doning diplomacy with us so we r also doing diplomacy with them for the encouragement of the idealogy of english and english people,till that is quite ok othewise we hate all other languages and their cultures,we love our own proud culture and language urdu and inshaallah a time will come that we will sing in urdu we will dance in urdu we will hit in urdu and we will fit in urdu inshaallah,aamin!summaamin!

[*Hijab*]

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Munda sahib why our language is not powerful??????? The advance technology and inventing more things has nothing to do with the language, but one's talent. If a Urdu speaker can create many advanced technologies, it has to do with his/her talent not language. And if they want to promote their materials worldwide, it doesn't have to be in English..OKay there are many things which one has to understand but if talking about technology. I don't think that it has to do more with a language.

[lucky]

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so what we are doing since from 1947?we are just talking in english since from 1947,but for ur kind information i shall tell you that qauid-i-azam did't mention for english,the main thing he mentioned is work work and only work,and in his fourteen points he only and only pointed out urdu language for the people of pakistan and we can get eduaction without english as the blind's get education without eyes:khi:

they are blind but we r not blind.:tauba Quaid_e_Azam said because he wanted to collect people on a platform.and he said it for a some time.as it is sir Sayyed ahmed khan said to Muslims if you want to servive and your religious you should have to learn English yourself and your coming genration.and if you want to take part like Hindus with the shoulder of british you have to teach first of all English.

[Mujahid Khan]

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they are blind but we r not blind.:tauba Quaid_e_Azam said because he wanted to collect people on a platform.and he said it for a some time.as it is sir Sayyed ahmed khan said to Muslims if you want to servive and your religious you should have to learn English yourself and your coming genration.and if you want to take part like Hindus with the shoulder of british you have to teach first of all English.

madam what does i mean that if blind can get education then why we could't develop our scientific tecknolgy in urdu so the time of slavery have been finished now it does't need to learn english please wake up :tauba

[Wafa]

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please don't mind wafa i don't agree with u because pakistan india and south africa were the coulonies of british so why we r still in english,for ur kind information china have reached to the level of the international market bc they are able to hit the english made shutals in the space and usa and britain are more worried about the expariment of non speaking english:khi:

I said that English language is used as a second language and most official language in most of the countries....especially Pakistan, india and South africa and many other international organisation........and i am sure i said it right......becoz many official papers are in English language.......And u cannot deny that......:)
Till up to date...china haven't got the position or status which they deserve......they are very talented and more advance .....bt they have worked hard for centuries to come up to an international market level which they have now..they have also realized the importance of English language......
I am not telling to discontinue speaking urdu and only emphesis on English language........bt we should promote English language in our country, so that we can come to international level........Becoz the people when they go abroad its necessary to know english Language......:thmbup:

[Wafa]

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madam what does i mean that if blind can get education then why we could't develop our scientific tecknolgy in urdu so the time of slavery have been finished now it does't need to learn english please wake up :tauba

How can u say its no need to learn english.......its wrong....we must learn English language.......u know if in pak the person gets all the education in urdu......then also in any other country , its value is nothing..and i have seen this..They dont even get a good job.so plz u wakeup and face the reality........:)

[Saira_abdul]

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that people speaking different regional languages in the country accepted Urdu as the link language but not the vested class.

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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munda i will apriciate ur common sence that u have the power to convince people's but u have't enough proof to prove that english language is so neccesary for the development of science and tecknolgy,i am surprised that why u people are pushing english for the development of science and tecknolgy as the ground realities r so dangerous at the movement bc usa and britain r not interested in the developments of science and tecknolog especialy for pakistan and other muslim countries and the countries who r in the favour of muslims like china,so why we should't encourage chinese instead of english,for example usa israil and britain are supporting india in the field of neuclier tecknology and they r inforcing economical restrictions on iran,they have sined agreements with india to create more and more neuclier weapons and when they get know that pakistan have launched another new neuclier plant in khushaab they get worried, but as we all know that usa and britain r doning diplomacy with us so we r also doing diplomacy with them for the encouragement of the idealogy of english and english people,till that is quite ok othewise we hate all other languages and their cultures,we love our own proud culture and language urdu and inshaallah a time will come that we will sing in urdu we will dance in urdu we will hit in urdu and we will fit in urdu inshaallah,aamin!summaamin!

Munda sahib why our language is not powerful??????? The advance technology and inventing more things has nothing to do with the language, but one's talent. If a Urdu speaker can create many advanced technologies, it has to do with his/her talent not language. And if they want to promote their materials worldwide, it doesn't have to be in English..OKay there are many things which one has to understand but if talking about technology. I don't think that it has to do more with a language.

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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madam what does i mean that if blind can get education then why we could't develop our scientific tecknolgy in urdu so the time of slavery have been finished now it does't need to learn english please wake up :tauba

You opt to isolate your country from others and on the otherhand i want to integrate it with others. I still am fail to catch the sense and the point you are emphasizing on that we should be reverted to Urdu. Don't you see we have everything in English. Inspite of penetrating in it more, you are talking about a strange and nearly impossible revitalization. Don't you think it would be a step behind :mm: