Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

[ASAD]

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

Zabardast....

['SamRazi']

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

Plz don't take me wrong.

Insaan jisay chahta he us ke liye dil ka dharakna aik fitri amal he, mohabat aik aisa jazba he jo paida nahi kia jayta bulke paida ho jata he...mein ne kai larkiyon ko dekha he jo kehti hein ke wo mohabat pe believe nahi kertein, lekin jub un ki poetry ya nasar perhein to us mein sirf aur sirf mohabat he hoti he. Shayad un mein se aik aap bhi hein...i am not here to critisize, aap ne jo likha believe me mujay bohat pasand aaya, l appreciate it :) lekin is ke saath saath aap ko yeh bhi realize ker lena chahiye ke koi insaan opposite gender se mohabat mein involve huay bagair nahi reh sakta :)

mujhe nahi lagta meine is baat se kabhi inkar kiya hai, mei oun logo mei se hoon jin ka man'na hai ke mohabbat zindagi mei ek baar hoti hai, wo kamyab ho yaan nakaam yeh apni apni kismat hoti hai, haan jsi ke dil mei kabhi kisi ke liyeh sachi mohabbat jaghi ho (lerka ho yaan lerki) ousey apney mehboob ke madwi wajood ki zarorat nahi hoti, wo ous ki mohabbat ke saharye zindagi guzar letey hain.

Yeh bhi sach hai ke mei aaj kal ki betukki mohabbat ke fav mei nahi hoon, jo raah chaltey aap ko kisi se ho jati hai.

['SamRazi']

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

Zabardast....

shukriya dear :rose

[Masood]

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

Plz don't take me wrong.

Insaan jisay chahta he us ke liye dil ka dharakna aik fitri amal he, mohabat aik aisa jazba he jo paida nahi kia jayta bulke paida ho jata he...mein ne kai larkiyon ko dekha he jo kehti hein ke wo mohabat pe believe nahi kertein, lekin jub un ki poetry ya nasar perhein to us mein sirf aur sirf mohabat he hoti he. Shayad un mein se aik aap bhi hein...i am not here to critisize, aap ne jo likha believe me mujay bohat pasand aaya, l appreciate it :) lekin is ke saath saath aap ko yeh bhi realize ker lena chahiye ke koi insaan opposite gender se mohabat mein involve huay bagair nahi reh sakta :)

Sorry main is baat mein dakhal dey raha hoon ....

Aamir aurat aur mard mein aik fitri difference yeh hota hai keh mard apni soch, apni raey, apney jazbaat ka izhaar bohat aasani sey kar saktey hain, shayid is liye bhi keh unhein chot khaney sey khof nahin hota magar aurat apney jazbaat ka izhaar aasani sey nahin kar sakti - kyun keh uski soch mein siraf muhbbat hi nahin hoti balkey aur bohat sari haqeeqatein hoti hain. Woh apni muhabbat sey inkaar kabhi nahin karti magar usko biyaan karney leiy hont nahin kholti - kabhi kabhi siraf likhey huwey alfaaz ka sahara leti hai... that's what I think....

[Mr. Sialkoty]

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

mujhe nahi lagta meine is baat se kabhi inkar kiya hai, mei oun logo mei se hoon jin ka man'na hai ke mohabbat zindagi mei ek baar hoti hai, wo kamyab ho yaan nakaam yeh apni apni kismat hoti hai, haan jsi ke dil mei kabhi kisi ke liyeh sachi mohabbat jaghi ho (lerka ho yaan lerki) ousey apney mehboob ke madwi wajood ki zarorat nahi hoti, wo ous ki mohabbat ke saharye zindagi guzar letey hain.

Yeh bhi sach hai ke mei aaj kal ki betukki mohabbat ke fav mei nahi hoon, jo raah chaltey aap ko kisi se ho jati hai.

hmmm....aap ki baat samaj mein aa gai...lekin

Aap ne kaha ke aap aaj kul ki betukki mohabbat ke fav mein nahi hein...right?

Aap bhattaki mohabat kisay kehtay hein.

aur

aap ne kaha ke kisi ki mohabat ke saharay zindagi guzaari ja sakti he...yeh kese mumkin he, kia yeh unrealistic nahi lagta. kia yeh hakeekat se aankh churanay ke mutradif nahi. Aisi baatein to non-practicle aur old fashioned, orthodox type ke loog kerte hein, lekin aik working lady honay ke naatay aap ki approach to practicle honi chahiye.

Aik aur baat...ager aik larki ko sabi merdon mein khoot nazar aata he, aur ager koi apna love express bhi ker deta he us larki se, to wo kese kisi ki baat pe yakeen ker sakti he. aur waise bhi ager in cheezon ko mad-e-nazar rakh ker rashional assessment ki jaye to aisa lagta he ke aisi larki kisi se mohabat ker he nahi sakti. Ager aisi larki kisi se mohabat kerti he to wo kis bina pe kerti he? us ka love criteria kia hota he?

Saima once again, i am not targeting you, but want to know the answer for my own satisfaction and understanding. HOpe you wouldn't mind giving me the appropriate answer :)

[Mr. Sialkoty]

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

Sorry main is baat mein dakhal dey raha hoon ....

Aamir aurat aur mard mein aik fitri difference yeh hota hai keh mard apni soch, apni raey, apney jazbaat ka izhaar bohat aasani sey kar saktey hain, shayid is liye bhi keh unhein chot khaney sey khof nahin hota magar aurat apney jazbaat ka izhaar aasani sey nahin kar sakti - kyun keh uski soch mein siraf muhbbat hi nahin hoti balkey aur bohat sari haqeeqatein hoti hain. Woh apni muhabbat sey inkaar kabhi nahin karti magar usko biyaan karney leiy hont nahin kholti - kabhi kabhi siraf likhey huwey alfaaz ka sahara leti hai... that's what I think....

hmmm

Mere khyaal mein aurat jitna beyaan kerti he utna to merd bhi byaan nahi ker pata..jitnay achay alfaaz aurat ke paas hotay hein love and affection show kerne ke liye, us ke ber-aks merd itnay sharp nahi hotay.

Haan albata bazahir, merd kuch bahadur hota he, lekin us ke saath saath jo us ke dil mein dimaag mein chal raha hota he usay express kerne mein gabrata nahi he.

Masood what i am wondering is that ke aaj kal ki kai larkiyaan hein jo kehti hein ke wo love pe believe nahi kertein, un ki poetry perho sub kuch saaf ho jaye ga...shairi dil ki aawaz hoti he...kisi se pyaar kerna koi buri baat nahi, lekin pyaar ker ke kehna ke wo pyaar nahi kertein to kia yeh baat munafaqat ke zumray mein nahi aati?

['SamRazi']

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

Aap ne kaha ke aap aaj kul ki betukki mohabbat ke fav mein nahi hein...right?

Aap bhattaki mohabat kisay kehtay hein.

Wese aap itney nadan hain to nahi jitney bantey hain, khair her insan ki shabab ek ibtidayi marhalo mei aisey lamhey aatey hain jab aap kisi ko chahney lagtey hain, is baat se koi inkar nahi ker sakta (inhein hum clashes bhi keh saktey hain) Mahol aisa ho chuka hai ke insan (lerka ho yaan lerki) issey apna haq aur apni zindagi ki zarorat samajhney laga hai, aur in raho per chal perta hai. Magar ofcourse yeh umer nadanio ki hoti hai, issey humarey barey bachpana samajhtey hain aur support nahi kertey, nateejtan yahan yaan to maan baap ki zid chalti hai yaan bacho ki ....... waldein ki chaley to bachon ko aisey rishton se dour ker diya jata hai bachon ki chaley to wo sab kuch chor ker, sab ki mukalifat ker kai shadi ker letey hain ( akser baad mei ous pe rpachtatey hain aur rishtey toot bhi jatey hain). Is ek silsiley ke chand saal baad aap kisi dosrey insan se miltey hain, aap ko ous ki kuch khoobiyan pasand aati hain, aap ko lagta hai aap issey bhi chahney lagey hain, aur pehley jis se miley they wo shayed galati yaan jald baazi thi aap waha apni kismat azmatey hai waha baat ban gayi theikh werna kuch arse baad yahi silsila kahin aur ..... yahan aap kisey mohabbat ka naam dein gai, jo first time huwi yaan jo baad mei hoti rahi ???? aur aap is se inkar nahi ker saktey kiu yeh yeh aayeh din ka khail hai mei ne her dosrey shaks ko is se guzertey dekha hai .....
meri nazar mei non of this is love.

aur

aap ne kaha ke kisi ki mohabat ke saharay zindagi guzaari ja sakti he...yeh kese mumkin he, kia yeh unrealistic nahi lagta. kia yeh hakeekat se aankh churanay ke mutradif nahi. Aisi baatein to non-practicle aur old fashioned, orthodox type ke loog kerte hein, lekin aik working lady honay ke naatay aap ki approach to practicle honi chahiye.

working lady honey ka matlab yeh nahi aurat apni hadein apna wajood, apna maqam aur hayaa bhool jayeh, sachi mohabbat ke saharey zindagi guzer sakti hai. Sirf ousi soorat mei jab aap ne sachey dil se kisi ko chaha ho, tab aisa mumkin hi nahi ke aap ka dil kisi dosrey insan ko ous jagah qabool ker lai, ager dil qabool ker lai to samjhiyeh aap ko mohabbat ka matlab nahi maloom aur aap ne kabhi mohabbat ki nahi...
Aur yeh batein non-practical nahi hain,
Is ka matlab aap tab samjho gai jab kabhi zindagi mei mohabbat ka ek lamha jee lo gai. werna aap ko samjhana bekaar hai.

Aik aur baat...ager aik larki ko sabi merdon mein khoot nazar aata he, aur ager koi apna love express bhi ker deta he us larki se, to wo kese kisi ki baat pe yakeen ker sakti he. aur waise bhi ager in cheezon ko mad-e-nazar rakh ker rashional assessment ki jaye to aisa lagta he ke aisi larki kisi se mohabat ker he nahi sakti. Ager aisi larki kisi se mohabat kerti he to wo kis bina pe kerti he? us ka love criteria kia hota he?

Aisey logo ka criteria yeh hota hai ke wo mohabbat ko pehchantey hain, aur yeh bhi samajhtey hain ke mohabbat kisi ek insan se hoti hai. Rahi baat mardon mei khoot nazar aana, aur ous ke bawajood kisi se mohabbat ho jana, is ka sirf itna jawab doon gi ke mohabbat koi khoobi yaan khoot dekh ker nahi ki jati, janey anjaney mei achanak ho jati hai, aur andhi hoti hai, is liyeh jis se mohabbat hoti hai ous mei hazar buraiyan ho nazar nahi aati.

Saima once again, i am not targeting you, but want to know the answer for my own satisfaction and understanding. HOpe you wouldn't mind giving me the appropriate answer :)

hope its clear to u .....

let em ask you one thing .......... do you belive in love ???

['SamRazi']

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

hmmm

Masood what i am wondering is that ke aaj kal ki kai larkiyaan hein jo kehti hein ke wo love pe believe nahi kertein, un ki poetry perho sub kuch saaf ho jaye ga...shairi dil ki aawaz hoti he...kisi se pyaar kerna koi buri baat nahi, lekin pyaar ker ke kehna ke wo pyaar nahi kertein to kia yeh baat munafaqat ke zumray mein nahi aati?

Listen janab aap issey munafqat ka naam nahi dai saktey, aur aaj kal ke lerko ka time pas ban gaya hai pyar, mohabbat , ishq etc ..... Aur ek baat humesha yaad rakhiyeh, bhaley hi lerkio ne bhi issey barabar badnam kiya hai magar ek ba-waqar aurat aaj bhi mohabbat ka matlab janti hain aur oun jazbat ka ehteram kerti hai, is liyeh jis ke dil mei ous ke liyeh sachi mohabbat ho wo pehchan leti hai........... aur yeh alfaz " I dont beive in love " oun time pass lerko ke liyeh istema kiyeh jatey hain jin ke liyeh yeh ek hobby ban gayi hai ........ :zuban:

[Mr. Sialkoty]

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

Wese aap itney nadan hain to nahi jitney bantey hain, khair her insan ki shabab ek ibtidayi marhalo mei aisey lamhey aatey hain jab aap kisi ko chahney lagtey hain, is baat se koi inkar nahi ker sakta (inhein hum clashes bhi keh saktey hain) Mahol aisa ho chuka hai ke insan (lerka ho yaan lerki) issey apna haq aur apni zindagi ki zarorat samajhney laga hai, aur in raho per chal perta hai. Magar ofcourse yeh umer nadanio ki hoti hai, issey humarey barey bachpana samajhtey hain aur support nahi kertey, nateejtan yahan yaan to maan baap ki zid chalti hai yaan bacho ki ....... waldein ki chaley to bachon ko aisey rishton se dour ker diya jata hai bachon ki chaley to wo sab kuch chor ker, sab ki mukalifat ker kai shadi ker letey hain ( akser baad mei ous pe rpachtatey hain aur rishtey toot bhi jatey hain). Is ek silsiley ke chand saal baad aap kisi dosrey insan se miltey hain, aap ko ous ki kuch khoobiyan pasand aati hain, aap ko lagta hai aap issey bhi chahney lagey hain, aur pehley jis se miley they wo shayed galati yaan jald baazi thi aap waha apni kismat azmatey hai waha baat ban gayi theikh werna kuch arse baad yahi silsila kahin aur ..... yahan aap kisey mohabbat ka naam dein gai, jo first time huwi yaan jo baad mei hoti rahi ???? aur aap is se inkar nahi ker saktey kiu yeh yeh aayeh din ka khail hai mei ne her dosrey shaks ko is se guzertey dekha hai .....
meri nazar mei non of this is love.



working lady honey ka matlab yeh nahi aurat apni hadein apna wajood, apna maqam aur hayaa bhool jayeh, sachi mohabbat ke saharey zindagi guzer sakti hai. Sirf ousi soorat mei jab aap ne sachey dil se kisi ko chaha ho, tab aisa mumkin hi nahi ke aap ka dil kisi dosrey insan ko ous jagah qabool ker lai, ager dil qabool ker lai to samjhiyeh aap ko mohabbat ka matlab nahi maloom aur aap ne kabhi mohabbat ki nahi...
Aur yeh batein non-practical nahi hain,
Is ka matlab aap tab samjho gai jab kabhi zindagi mei mohabbat ka ek lamha jee lo gai. werna aap ko samjhana bekaar hai.



Aisey logo ka criteria yeh hota hai ke wo mohabbat ko pehchantey hain, aur yeh bhi samajhtey hain ke mohabbat kisi ek insan se hoti hai. Rahi baat mardon mei khoot nazar aana, aur ous ke bawajood kisi se mohabbat ho jana, is ka sirf itna jawab doon gi ke mohabbat koi khoobi yaan khoot dekh ker nahi ki jati, janey anjaney mei achanak ho jati hai, aur andhi hoti hai, is liyeh jis se mohabbat hoti hai ous mei hazar buraiyan ho nazar nahi aati.



hope its clear to u .....

let em ask you one thing .......... do you belive in love ???

:clap: :clap:
aap ne jo jawaab diye, un mein se kai baaein clear ho gaein.

and ofcourse, I believe in love...and i think it is something no one can escape from :)

[Mr. Sialkoty]

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

Listen janab aap issey munafqat ka naam nahi dai saktey, aur aaj kal ke lerko ka time pas ban gaya hai pyar, mohabbat , ishq etc ..... Aur ek baat humesha yaad rakhiyeh, bhaley hi lerkio ne bhi issey barabar badnam kiya hai magar ek ba-waqar aurat aaj bhi mohabbat ka matlab janti hain aur oun jazbat ka ehteram kerti hai, is liyeh jis ke dil mei ous ke liyeh sachi mohabbat ho wo pehchan leti hai........... aur yeh alfaz " I dont beive in love " oun time pass lerko ke liyeh istema kiyeh jatey hain jin ke liyeh yeh ek hobby ban gayi hai ........ :zuban:

hmmm...

sahi.

Aap ne kaha ke jo larkiyaan kehti hein ke wo love pe yakeen nahi rakhtein to wo time pass hein...actually mera bhi yahi nazriya he ke jo larki aisa kehti he, ya to wo simply jhoot bool rahi he....time pass ker rahi he.

Aap ne to muj se pooch liya, ke do you believe in love aur mein ne keh diya ke haan.

Ub aap se poochna chahta hoon...kia aap ne kabi kisi se mohabat ki?

['SamRazi']

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

:clap: :clap:
aap ne jo jawaab diye, un mein se kai baaein clear ho gaein.

and ofcourse, I believe in love...and i think it is something no one can escape from :)

agreed ........... aur shuker hai samajh aagaya, werna mei samjhi thi bachey ko ek lecture phir dena parey ga :hehe:

['SamRazi']

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

hmmm...

sahi.

Aap ne kaha ke jo larkiyaan kehti hein ke wo love pe yakeen nahi rakhtein to wo time pass hein...actually mera bhi yahi nazriya he ke jo larki aisa kehti he, ya to wo simply jhoot bool rahi he....time pass ker rahi he.

wrong :na: .......... mei en aisa lerkion ko hinahi oun lerko ko bhi kaha hai jinhon ne pyar ko hobby bana rakha hai akser lerkian aisey lerko ko avoid kerne yaan jaan churaney ke liyeh in jumlo ka istemal kerti hain.

Aap ne to muj se pooch liya, ke do you believe in love aur mein ne keh diya ke haan.

Ub aap se poochna chahta hoon...kia aap ne kabi kisi se mohabat ki?

Now this question is too personal :shh:

[Mr. Sialkoty]

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

Now this question is too personal :shh:

Mein kitna syaana hoon na...i knew that i was going to have the very same answer :)

[Mr. Sialkoty]

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

agreed ........... aur shuker hai samajh aagaya, werna mei samjhi thi bachey ko ek lecture phir dena parey ga :hehe:

Ji mujay is baat ki kafi der se samaj he :)

['SamRazi']

Re: Ek deedar ke saharey jee lain gai........

Mein kitna syaana hoon na...i knew that i was going to have the very same answer :)

Ji mujay is baat ki kafi der se samaj he :)

Aur mei ne bhi kaha na ke itney nasamajh aur nadaan ho nahi jitney bantey ho