debate 1...*aurtoo ko job karni chaye ya nahi? *

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Re: debate 1...*aurtoo ko job karni chaye ya nahi? *

Thanxx jis jis nay reply kia :rose ..kafi achay points samnay aye hain ..
wesay ub tuk koi aisa member nahi aya jissay pora itraaz ho female ki job pay kay kisi surat nahi karni : d

[Muhammad Ali Jawad]

Re: debate 1...*aurtoo ko job karni chaye ya nahi? *

Walikum Salaam...!!

Acha topic choose kia hai..Aanchel aap nay.:thmbup:....pehlee dafa:khi: just joking...!!

Although ye aik purana topic hai...per healthy topic hai debate k liye..!!

Hum musalmaan hain.,..aur aik muslim muashray main rehtay hai...lihaza humain dekh ker faisala nahi kerna hai..k duniya main kia ho raha hai...bulkeh deenay -e-Islam k osoollon ku samnay rakh ker ye faisla dena ho ga k aya 'aurtoo ko job karni chaye ya nahi? aur ye ossol her muamlay main hona zarooree hai..isee main humaraee baqa hai...

deenay -e-Islam k mutabiq aurat ka asal muqaam uss ka ghar hai...na k bahir ki duniya...kyuon k aurat ku Allah nay ghir mard k liye fitna banaya hai...hatta k surah-e-yousuf main Allah nay Hazrat Yousuf (A.S) k mutaliq biyan kertay hoay faramaya...k Yousuf (a.s) nay dua ki k aay meray Rab meray liye qaid (prison) main rehna ziada behtar hai banisbat iss baat k jiss kam ki taraf ye aurtain mujhay bulatee hain aur ager tu nay inn ki chalain mujh say door na keen tu main inn ki taraf maail ho jaoon ga aur jaahloon main say ho jaoon ga...Surah-e-Yousuf (verse no. 33).

Iss say ye baat wazih hai..k ager Allah ka aik peghabar apnay baray main ye andesha rakhat hai..k wo aurtoon ki khoobsoortee say behak sakta hai..(ye alag baat hai..k Allah apnay Peghmaroon (a.s) ki khud hifazat faramata hai) tu hum kia cheez hain..iss liye k aurat ka job kerna mardoon ku fitnay main daal sakta hai..

Aaj kal ziada ter idaray mardoon k under control hain iss liye Albatta jahan kisee aurat ku bohut majboorree ho..ghar ka kharch na chal sakta ho uss k baghir...ya husband fout ho gaya ho..tu wo job ker saktee hai. magar iss tereay say k woh mardoon k liye fitna na banay.. matlab islamee dress k mutabiq rahay..mardoon say ghair zarooree baat cheet say mukamal perhaiz karay..doraan job namaz ki pabandi karay waghira.,.tu iss main koi qabahat wali baat nahi...Allah rehem faramany wala hai

Yahan ye baat bhi qabil-e-ghour hai.,.k aksar loog iss baat ka dhandhoora peet tay hain...k aurat ager job na karay tu uss ki taleem (education) useless ho jatee hai..aur aurat ku job ki ijazat na dena daqyanoosee sooch hai waghira..tu unn say ye kehna hai..k bhai..hum muslamaan hain..aur islam k taleemaat kabhi daqaynoosee nahi ho sakteen..ye Allah ka banay hoa qanoon hai..ager koi aureat taleem yafta hai...tu uss ki taleem ki ziada zaroorat uss k ghar ku hai..uss ka bachoon ku hai..woh apni taleem ka faida apnay bachoon ku educate ker k pohcha saktee hai...na k bahir ki duniya main fitna paida ker k.,.

Allah hum ku hidayat say nawazay..(Aameen)!!

[thefire1]

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Jazak ALLAH khair, aik achi aur khoobsurat debate say aap nay humain nawaaza.

khush rahyeh

Fi amaan ALLAH

[Muhammad Ali Jawad]

Re: debate 1...*aurtoo ko job karni chaye ya nahi? *

Jazak ALLAH khair, aik achi aur khoobsurat debate say aap nay humain nawaaza.

khush rahyeh

Fi amaan ALLAH

Bohut Shukria izzat afzaai ka..!! Aap ki post bhi (agerchay totally English main hai) bohut comprehensive hai iss topic per..Jazak Allah..!!

[Baniaz Khan]

Re: debate 1...*aurtoo ko job karni chaye ya nahi? *

پہلے مجھے یہ بتاؤ کہ عورتوں میں ایسی خاص بات کیا ہے کہ انکے لیے یہ سوال اٹھایا جارہا ہے
دوسری بات یہ ہے یہاں عورتوں سے مراد مسلمان عورتیں ہیں یا غیر مسلم یا پاکستانی عورتوں کی بات ہورہی ہے یا الگ

اگر تمام دنیا کی عورتوں کی بات ہورہی ہے تو حالات کے پیش نظر ایک جواب ہو ہی نہیں سکتا

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Re: debate 1...*aurtoo ko job karni chaye ya nahi? *

Walikum Salaam...!!

Acha topic choose kia hai..Aanchel aap nay.:thmbup:....pehlee dafa:khi: just joking...!!

Although ye aik purana topic hai...per healthy topic hai debate k liye..!!

Hum musalmaan hain.,..aur aik muslim muashray main rehtay hai...lihaza humain dekh ker faisala nahi kerna hai..k duniya main kia ho raha hai...bulkeh deenay -e-Islam k osoollon ku samnay rakh ker ye faisla dena ho ga k aya 'aurtoo ko job karni chaye ya nahi? aur ye ossol her muamlay main hona zarooree hai..isee main humaraee baqa hai...

deenay -e-Islam k mutabiq aurat ka asal muqaam uss ka ghar hai...na k bahir ki duniya...kyuon k aurat ku Allah nay ghir mard k liye fitna banaya hai...hatta k surah-e-yousuf main Allah nay Hazrat Yousuf (A.S) k mutaliq biyan kertay hoay faramaya...k Yousuf (a.s) nay dua ki k aay meray Rab meray liye qaid (prison) main rehna ziada behtar hai banisbat iss baat k jiss kam ki taraf ye aurtain mujhay bulatee hain aur ager tu nay inn ki chalain mujh say door na keen tu main inn ki taraf maail ho jaoon ga aur jaahloon main say ho jaoon ga...Surah-e-Yousuf (verse no. 33).

Iss say ye baat wazih hai..k ager Allah ka aik peghabar apnay baray main ye andesha rakhat hai..k wo aurtoon ki khoobsoortee say behak sakta hai..(ye alag baat hai..k Allah apnay Peghmaroon (a.s) ki khud hifazat faramata hai) tu hum kia cheez hain..iss liye k aurat ka job kerna mardoon ku fitnay main daal sakta hai..

Aaj kal ziada ter idaray mardoon k under control hain iss liye Albatta jahan kisee aurat ku bohut majboorree ho..ghar ka kharch na chal sakta ho uss k baghir...ya husband fout ho gaya ho..tu wo job ker saktee hai. magar iss tereay say k woh mardoon k liye fitna na banay.. matlab islamee dress k mutabiq rahay..mardoon say ghair zarooree baat cheet say mukamal perhaiz karay..doraan job namaz ki pabandi karay waghira.,.tu iss main koi qabahat wali baat nahi...Allah rehem faramany wala hai

Yahan ye baat bhi qabil-e-ghour hai.,.k aksar loog iss baat ka dhandhoora peet tay hain...k aurat ager job na karay tu uss ki taleem (education) useless ho jatee hai..aur aurat ku job ki ijazat na dena daqyanoosee sooch hai waghira..tu unn say ye kehna hai..k bhai..hum muslamaan hain..aur islam k taleemaat kabhi daqaynoosee nahi ho sakteen..ye Allah ka banay hoa qanoon hai..ager koi aureat taleem yafta hai...tu uss ki taleem ki ziada zaroorat uss k ghar ku hai..uss ka bachoon ku hai..woh apni taleem ka faida apnay bachoon ku educate ker k pohcha saktee hai...na k bahir ki duniya main fitna paida ker k.,.

Allah hum ku hidayat say nawazay..(Aameen)!!

aap nay achay points likhye hian : d lekan ...aap ka focus sirf aik jagha pay raha hai : )
...lekan yeh to aik ideal situation wali baat hai ...faraz karian jesay aik larki hai shadi say pehlay ....school kay bad college kay pesay na hovey to wo kia karye ?(agar ghar walye afford na kar saktay hoo)..or faraz karaian kisi larki ki shadi late hoo jaye to wo farigh ghar beeth kar kia karye ...logoo ki batian sunti rehye : d ....chalian shadi ho bhi gai husband support na karye tub ? agar support karye bhi to death ho jaye us ki ya Talaq ho jaye tub wo apnay Mekay wapas aye ge to koon us ki support karye ga ?kitni families aisi hian jo is taraha ki situations main ladies ko support kar rahi hain ? 5,10% bus? baki 80 ,85% kia karye ?logo ki Muhaatj bani bethi rehye ..

aik or baat bhi mujhay samajh nahi ati kay kaha jata hai kay ladies ko jub zarorat ho tub karaian jobs....jub zarorat parri jobs aap kay leye rastay main bichi houn gee ? jo job karni hai kia us kay leye ladies Automatically trained khudi hoo jaian ? : d ......yeh saray factors bhi hian jin kay baray main sucha jana chaye : ) ....job Must nahi hai ladies k leye ..lekan apnay aap ko aisay tayaar rakhna chaye trained hona chaye kay jub karni parye zindagi ki door main achay say shamil ho jaian kisi ki muhtaaj na rehian ......

job ka maqsad pesa , activity , inner satisfaction , society main achay tareekay say rehna ,ghar par tawajoo bhi must hai ...jub job keye bina koi achi zindagi guzaar rahi hain yeh sub mill raha hai to pher kia hi baat hai : d

or shaitaan sirf bahir nahi gharoo main bhi paye jatay hian :lol: ...buhat si ladies ghar beethay idher udher fazool ki gup , gheebat , Tv,filmoo main waqat zaya kar diti hian ..is waqat ko sahi say istamal karaian ..ghar main facilities nahi to bahi job kar kay apni zindagi ko agay barhian ....

[Muhammad Ali Jawad]

Re: debate 1...*aurtoo ko job karni chaye ya nahi? *

aap nay achay points likhye hian : d lekan ...aap ka focus sirf aik jagha pay raha hai : )
...lekan yeh to aik ideal situation wali baat hai ...faraz karian jesay aik larki hai shadi say pehlay ....school kay bad college kay pesay na hovey to wo kia karye ?(agar ghar walye afford na kar saktay hoo)..or faraz karaian kisi larki ki shadi late hoo jaye to wo farigh ghar beeth kar kia karye ...logoo ki batian sunti rehye : d ....chalian shadi ho bhi gai husband support na karye tub ? agar support karye bhi to death ho jaye us ki ya Talaq ho jaye tub wo apnay Mekay wapas aye ge to koon us ki support karye ga ?kitni families aisi hian jo is taraha ki situations main ladies ko support kar rahi hain ? 5,10% bus? baki 80 ,85% kia karye ?logo ki Muhaatj bani bethi rehye ..

aik or baat bhi mujhay samajh nahi ati kay kaha jata hai kay ladies ko jub zarorat ho tub karaian jobs....jub zarorat parri jobs aap kay leye rastay main bichi houn gee ? jo job karni hai kia us kay leye ladies Automatically trained khudi hoo jaian ? : d ......yeh saray factors bhi hian jin kay baray main sucha jana chaye : ) ....job Must nahi hai ladies k leye ..lekan apnay aap ko aisay tayaar rakhna chaye trained hona chaye kay jub karni parye zindagi ki door main achay say shamil ho jaian kisi ki muhtaaj na rehian ......

job ka maqsad pesa , activity , inner satisfaction , society main achay tareekay say rehna ,ghar par tawajoo bhi must hai ...jub job keye bina koi achi zindagi guzaar rahi hain yeh sub mill raha hai to pher kia hi baat hai : d

or shaitaan sirf bahir nahi gharoo main bhi paye jatay hian :lol: ...buhat si ladies ghar beethay idher udher fazool ki gup , gheebat , Tv,filmoo main waqat zaya kar diti hian ..is waqat ko sahi say istamal karaian ..ghar main facilities nahi to bahi job kar kay apni zindagi ko agay barhian ....

Aanchal..shukria izzat afzai ka...!!

Mainy jo post likhee hai..wo aap nay ghour say shayed nahi parhi...paragraph 06 main mainay yaheem mentioon kia hai..k zarrorat k tehat aurtoon ka job kernay main koi qabahat nahi..bashart hai k woh fintnay ka samaan paida na karain mardoon k liye...aap janti hain..k ye humaray muashara mardoon k under control hai..aur mard bhi mukhtalif qisam k...bohut say mard bohut jald aurtoon ki taraf mail hotay hain..kuch bilwaja sharif aurtoon per keechar oochaltay hain..aap kehteen hain..k ghar beth ker aurat loogoon ki aur susraal ki batain sunay...kia ye behtar hai..ya phir ye behtar hai..k aik ghair mard ki zuban say koi ghalat qisam ki ilzaam sunay..!!

Khuch aurtain bulkeh bohut see aurtain aisee bhi hoitee hain..jin ki job ka maqsad paisa kaman nahi hota sirf iss liye job kerna hota hai..koi unn ku koi posand karay aur unn say shadi ker lay..wo apnay aap ku aik model girl k taur per mardoon k samnay paish kerteen hain..jiss say fitna paida hota hai..unn ki shaadi tu ho jaati hai..lykin baad main unn ka husband jo pehlay uss ka colleague tha uss ku tanay deta hai..k tum aisee theen wasee theen..waghira..aksar -o-beshtar gharany aisee larkiyaoon say apnay baitay ki shadi kernay say avoid kertay hain..jo job oriented hottee hain..wo saree omer baghiar shaadi k hee bethee reh jateen ain..kyuon k un k nazdek aisy larkyaan bohut bold hotee hai..!!

Main manta hoon k aksar halat aisay hotay hain..k job kerna hi parte hai..aurtoon ku lykin kushish yahee honee chaye k woh unn idaroon main job karain jo idaray (institutions) autoon k under control hoon..jaisay woh school colleges jo sirf girsl k liye makhsoos hain..ya nursing, lady doctros waghira..

Baqi Allah humarri niyatoon ka haal janat hai..wo kisee k amal ka boojh uss ki himmat say ziada uss per nahi dalata.

Fee aman Allah..!!

[BhaTaktii RooH]

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ye kya...aik or debate...:lol...kya iradey hain Aanchal....:lol

[Muhammad Ali Jawad]

Re: debate 1...*aurtoo ko job karni chaye ya nahi? *

ye kya...aik or debate...:lol...kya iradey hain Aanchal....:lol

Aanchal k iraday khatarnaak hain...372-shed

Wasiy dear bhateejee...!! Tum itnay din kahan ghaaib raheen...khair tu thee??....jab forum say ghaaib hotee ho tu 10-10 din tak pata nahi hota tumhara....aur jab forum per atee ho tu janay ka naam nahi laiteen...?? 372-scare

[thefire1]

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Bohat hi achi debate chal rahi hay, Anchaal kay point aur unn per Mohammad Ali Jawad kay jawaab bohat hi convinving lagay,!! Shurkiya aap ahbaab ka.

[Masood]

Re: debate 1...*aurtoo ko job karni chaye ya nahi? *

یہ ہے تو ایک پرانی بحث جو ہم نے بہت پہلے پیغام پر ڈسکس کی تھی۔ چلیں گھر جا کر اس پر ٹارچ سے روشنی ڈالوں گا

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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Aanchal mein chup he rehta hoon tumhein to pata he ke mere bolnay per aksar larai ho jati he

[Masood]

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Aanchal mein chup he rehta hoon tumhein to pata he ke mere bolnay per aksar larai ho jati he

ہا ہا ہا تمہیں یاد ہے ایسی ایک بحث پہلے ہو چکی ہے اس ٹاپک پر جس پر تم نے بہت واویلا کیا تھا :ys:۔

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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ہا ہا ہا تمہیں یاد ہے ایسی ایک بحث پہلے ہو چکی ہے اس ٹاپک پر جس پر تم نے بہت واویلا کیا تھا :ys:۔

Isi liye to mein ne kaha k tum online ho, mein kuch bola to larai ho he jani he

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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Lo ji, ub ager larai hoti he to honay do.

Larkiyoon ko shadi k baad dhair saray buchay paida ker ke ghar mein skon kerna chahiye, ub dekhta hoon koon mere arguments ko counter kerta he :fuming: