ª!ª! musharaf ka moakhza ª!ª

[Masood]

kion save passage dia ajey?
jab pakistan me aam awaam ko saza ho sakti he,seyastadon ko saza ho sakti he(bhuto ki phansi)wakilon ko saza ho sakti he to ye musharaf kia asmaan se utra he?:fuming:is ne to wo kuch kia he jis ko theek karne me pata nahi kitni sadiyan lagen.is ko phansi ki saza to bohat kam he.kitne logon ka khoon bahaya he is ne or kitne bech deay hen,koi hisab he???

Kis siyasatdaan ko uskey siyasi jurmon ki saza mili hai? Koi aik btaein Hamzad? Aaj tak Pakistan ki tareekh mein aik bhi siyasi leader aisa nahin guzra jisko uskey siyasi jurmon ki saza mili ho. Bhutto ki jo misaal aap ney di hai, woh usko is liyey di gaii thi keh Amerika ussey raastey sey hatwana chahta tha.

Aaj agar Benazir zindah hotin to kya aap ussey saza dilwaney ki baat kartin? Aaj Nawaz Shareef ko aik QAID samjha jaa raha hai, issey kaun si saza mili hai?? Hamarey mulk mein paisey waley ko kabhi saza nahin mil sakti. Aap wakeelon ki baat karti hain, Hamzad aap kabhi pakistani adalton mein jaa ker dekhein keh yeh wakeel paison ki khatir kis tarha be'gunahon ko sazaein dilwatey hain, jhoot ko sach kar key sabit kartey hain - jab inhein dandey parrey hain to sari awwam inki hamdard ho gaii hai? Kyun? Kya awwam pichhley 60 salon sey jhoot bolti chali aa rahi hai keh yehi adaltein yeh wakeel aur yehi judges awwam ko insaaf nahin detey?

[MeemSheenAlif]

[aabi2cool]

mujhay to yeh lagta he k..

"PAKISTANI K LIE DEMOCRACY NAHI BANI HE.....HUMARE LIE AIK DICTATOR HI SAHI HE....HUM JOMHORIAT K LAIQ NAHI HE"

aap ko aysa kion lagta hay?

[MeemSheenAlif]

aap ko aysa kion lagta hay?

pata nahikyun lekin lugta he

[AbgeenA]

Kis siyasatdaan ko uskey siyasi jurmon ki saza mili hai? Koi aik btaein Hamzad? Aaj tak Pakistan ki tareekh mein aik bhi siyasi leader aisa nahin guzra jisko uskey siyasi jurmon ki saza mili ho. Bhutto ki jo misaal aap ney di hai, woh usko is liyey di gaii thi keh Amerika ussey raastey sey hatwana chahta tha.

Aaj agar Benazir zindah hotin to kya aap ussey saza dilwaney ki baat kartin? Aaj Nawaz Shareef ko aik QAID samjha jaa raha hai, issey kaun si saza mili hai?? Hamarey mulk mein paisey waley ko kabhi saza nahin mil sakti. Aap wakeelon ki baat karti hain, Hamzad aap kabhi pakistani adalton mein jaa ker dekhein keh yeh wakeel paison ki khatir kis tarha be'gunahon ko sazaein dilwatey hain, jhoot ko sach kar key sabit kartey hain - jab inhein dandey parrey hain to sari awwam inki hamdard ho gaii hai? Kyun? Kya awwam pichhley 60 salon sey jhoot bolti chali aa rahi hai keh yehi adaltein yeh wakeel aur yehi judges awwam ko insaaf nahin detey?

akher ap musharaf k itne hammi kion hen??us ne konse ache kaam keay hen jo ap ko foran us ki saza par dukh ho jata he?yakinan sabhi ne aj tak pakistan ko loota he lekin jo hashar is shaks ne kia wo koi na kar saka,jitna is ne hulya bigara har idare ka wo ham sab k samne he,isi shaks ne NRO ke zreay zardari ke jaraem moaf keay,ager isi tarah moafi wala kaam karna he to sari jails ko khol dee jeay aam awaam ka kia kasoor he jo wo chote chote juraim me jelon me sarte rahen:donno:aik adha qatal musharaf ke dheron qatalas k samne kia heseyat rakhta he???shoukat aziz ke frauds me hisa daar ban kar or konsi naiki ki is ne??yakinan sare seyastadan theek nahi hen lekin ye aik bohat bara evil he

[AbgeenA]

phansi se tu us ki saza hi khatam ho jaey gee ... us ko wo saza milni chahiey k wo mot mangay aur us ko mot milay na aur wo ibrat ka nishan ban ker reh jaey

bilkul sahi kaha ap ne:thmbup:

[wajid hanif]

[Masood]

akher ap musharaf k itne hammi kion hen??us ne konse ache kaam keay hen jo ap ko foran us ki saza par dukh ho jata he?yakinan sabhi ne aj tak pakistan ko loota he lekin jo hashar is shaks ne kia wo koi na kar saka,jitna is ne hulya bigara har idare ka wo ham sab k samne he,isi shaks ne NRO ke zreay zardari ke jaraem moaf keay,ager isi tarah moafi wala kaam karna he to sari jails ko khol dee jeay aam awaam ka kia kasoor he jo wo chote chote juraim me jelon me sarte rahen:donno:aik adha qatal musharaf ke dheron qatalas k samne kia heseyat rakhta he???shoukat aziz ke frauds me hisa daar ban kar or konsi naiki ki is ne??yakinan sare seyastadan theek nahi hen lekin ye aik bohat bara evil he

:) Cool down Hamzad.

Let me make it crystal clear keh I am not in favor of Musharraf, main uska bilkul bhi haami nahin hoon aur na kabhi banoon ga.

Musharraf ney bohat sey ghalt kaam kiyey hain magar mera sawaal sirf itna sa hai keh KOI DOOSRA HOTA TO KYA KARTA??????? Just tell me that?

[AbgeenA]

:) Cool down Hamzad.

Let me make it crystal clear keh I am not in favor of Musharraf, main uska bilkul bhi haami nahin hoon aur na kabhi banoon ga.

Musharraf ney bohat sey ghalt kaam kiyey hain magar mera sawaal sirf itna sa hai keh KOI DOOSRA HOTA TO KYA KARTA??????? Just tell me that?

ager wo yehi kuch karta to ese hi us ki saza ka bhi mutaliba kia jata.60 years enough....ab ye sab theek hona chaey me kisi party ki himayat nahi kar rahi jo jo ghalat ho sab ko saza milni chaey or me ne apne hosh me musharaf ko hi dekha he last 9 years se.to me isi ki baat karun gi.or aap mujhe ye bhi bataen k ager musharaf ne ghalat kia he to saza kion nahi??or ager nawaz n zardari ko manzar se hata dia jaey to kon ho ga samne??

[Masood]

ager wo yehi kuch karta to ese hi us ki saza ka bhi mutaliba kia jata.60 years enough....ab ye sab theek hona chaey me kisi party ki himayat nahi kar rahi jo jo ghalat ho sab ko saza milni chaey or me ne apne hosh me musharaf ko hi dekha he last 9 years se.to me isi ki baat karun gi.or aap mujhe ye bhi bataen k ager musharaf ne ghalat kia he to saza kion nahi??or ager nawaz n zardari ko manzar se hata dia jaey to kon ho ga samne??

Maloom hai Hamzad, aap ney abhi neya neya safar shuru kiya hai, ham log fed up ho chukey hain in logon sey. Afsos hai to is baat ka keh aik luterey ko saza aur uska muakhza doosrey luteron sey karwaya jaa raha hai :) Yeh hamari bad'bakhtgi ki bohat buri elamat hai. Aik luterey sey jaan chhurraney key liyey ham doosrey ko apney sar per musalat kar rahey hain :) - main hamesha sey aik hi baat per eeman rakhta hoon: jaisi qom waisey leaders!

[sccorpion81]

Musharraf ney bohat sey ghalt kaam kiyey hain magar mera sawaal sirf itna sa hai keh KOI DOOSRA HOTA TO KYA KARTA??????? Just tell me that?

I m sorry sir aap ki behes main apna chamcha marne chala hooon:D:

Sir, doosra koi bhi hota aur wo jo bhi kerta laikin mere khyal main wo ..wo na kerta jo is shakhs ne kiya hai....ham tu samjhay thay k yeh aik Gen. hai foji hai aik sipahi hai .... buray waqt ko face kerne ki himat ho gee laikin yeh tu itna buzdil nikla k shayad koi chooha bhi ho ga

Sir, Ham aik Allah, Aik Nabi aur aik Quran k man'nay walon main se hain ... Pakistan ko Islam ka qila samjha jata tha aur hamara leader itna buzdil nikla ... ham kisi ki hifazat kiya kerain gay jab ham main apnay dushman ko monh tor jawab dena nahien aata

Sir, ham tu us nabi k man'nay walay hain jo 313 saathion k saath pait per patha bandh ker apne 4 guna ziyada bari taqat se ja takraya tha aur aaj hamari yeh halat hain k unhi taqton k kehne per apne hi bachon Behnon aur borhon per Golion ki boochar ker rhay hain....mere khyal main agar koi bhi is ki jagha hota tu kam az kam apnon ke saath tu aisa na kerta sirf apni kursi bchanay k liey....aap kiya samjhtay hain k kiyaaaj ham mehfooz hain unhi taqton k haton??? agar yahi samjhtay hain tu yeh phir bili ko daikh ker kabootar ki tarha aankhain band kerne wali baat ho geee

Aakhir is ne itne baray baray faislay kiey hain tu kiya kisi se is ne poocha ... yeh apni awam se aik dafa pooch laita tu mere khyal main yeh qom peechay hatnay wali nahien apne mulk per apne deen per jahan bhi baat ho gee yeh qom kisi qisam ki qurbani denay se na hichkichaiee hain aur na hi yeh kabhi peechay hatay geee....

Bas main tu Tipu sultan ki aik hi baat ko qoute kerooon ga

Shair ki Aik Din ki Zindagey Geedar ki 100 sala zindagey se behtar hain

aur aaj ham shair ki zindagey ko chor ker Geedar ki zindagey guzar rahay hain sirf is aik Shakhs ki wajha se

[Masood]

I m sorry sir aap ki behes main apna chamcha marne chala hooon:D:

Sir, doosra koi bhi hota aur wo jo bhi kerta laikin mere khyal main wo ..wo na kerta jo is shakhs ne kiya hai....ham tu samjhay thay k yeh aik Gen. hai foji hai aik sipahi hai .... buray waqt ko face kerne ki himat ho gee laikin yeh tu itna buzdil nikla k shayad koi chooha bhi ho ga

Sir, Ham aik Allah, Aik Nabi aur aik Quran k man'nay walon main se hain ... Pakistan ko Islam ka qila samjha jata tha aur hamara leader itna buzdil nikla ... ham kisi ki hifazat kiya kerain gay jab ham main apnay dushman ko monh tor jawab dena nahien aata

Sir, ham tu us nabi k man'nay walay hain jo 313 saathion k saath pait per patha bandh ker apne 4 guna ziyada bari taqat se ja takraya tha aur aaj hamari yeh halat hain k unhi taqton k kehne per apne hi bachon Behnon aur borhon per Golion ki boochar ker rhay hain....mere khyal main agar koi bhi is ki jagha hota tu kam az kam apnon ke saath tu aisa na kerta sirf apni kursi bchanay k liey....aap kiya samjhtay hain k kiyaaaj ham mehfooz hain unhi taqton k haton??? agar yahi samjhtay hain tu yeh phir bili ko daikh ker kabootar ki tarha aankhain band kerne wali baat ho geee

Aakhir is ne itne baray baray faislay kiey hain tu kiya kisi se is ne poocha ... yeh apni awam se aik dafa pooch laita tu mere khyal main yeh qom peechay hatnay wali nahien apne mulk per apne deen per jahan bhi baat ho gee yeh qom kisi qisam ki qurbani denay se na hichkichaiee hain aur na hi yeh kabhi peechay hatay geee....

Bas main tu Tipu sultan ki aik hi baat ko qoute kerooon ga

Shair ki Aik Din ki Zindagey Geedar ki 100 sala zindagey se behtar hain

aur aaj ham shair ki zindagey ko chor ker Geedar ki zindagey guzar rahay hain sirf is aik Shakhs ki wajha se

:) Yassir Yassir Yassir - thora sa khuley dimagh ka ho ker halaat aur waqeyat ko parakh ker samjhiyey aur phir dekhiyey keh haqeeqat kya hai. 1999 mein jab Musharraf ney Nawaz hakoomat ka takhta ulta tha to yehi woh qom thi jisney kaha tha keh hamarey saron per sey aik beghairat leader ka saya uth geya hai :) Yehi woh qom thi jisney Kargil key fateh ko qom hero aur Nawaz ko Bill Clington ka bacha kah ker ussey galiyaan diya karti thi :)

Agar Musharraf ki jaggah per KOI bhi hota to woh WOHI karta jo Musharraf ney kiya hai - kyun keh us sey 3-4 saal pehley Nawaz Shareef ney Bill Clington key paoun isi tarha chatey they aur Pakistani Bait-ul-Maal sey British akhbaron mein advertisement chalaii thi jis mein Pakistani Fauj ko THE ROUG ARMY kaha geya tha :)

11 September key baad duniya ko jo soorat-e-haal badli hai, us waqt aap key mulk ka koi aik dushman nahin tha, Hindustan, jiski aqeedat karna aaj hamara farz-e-awleen ban geya hai, usney Amerika key aagey haathey jorrey paoun pakrey keh aap Pakistan per hamla karein Bharat'mata main aap ko deta hoon - Yassir sahib us waqt agar Musharraf ney aisa faisla na kiya hota to shayid aaj hamara mulk safha-e-hasti per na hota. Agar hota to uska kya naqsha hota yeh aap shayid soch saktey hain!!!

Rahi baat Us Nabi Us Allah ki to come on - kya ham apney aap ko us Nabi us Allah key pairokaar kehlwaney key haqdar hain??? Kya hamarey aemaal aisey hain keh ham 335 naujawan ley ker 1000ron ki fauj key khilaaf uth sakein? Merey bhai woh 335 MUJAHID they jinhein SHAHADAT ka shoq tha aur woh JEHAD ka mafhoom samajhtey they - aap apney dil per haath rakh ker btaiyey keh is waqt duniya mein kitney Islami mulk aisey hain jahan per JEHAD ka mafhoom samjha jata hai???? Koi aik mulk ais nahin jo ISLAMI mulk ho, kya Saudi Arab, Kya Iran, Kya Pakistan.

Jab ham musalmano ki halaat-e-zaar hi aisi mutzalzal hai to hamein kisi AIK insaan ko uska qasoorwar thehraney ka haq nahin chahey woh Musharraf ho ya koi aur! Hamari ragon mein andhera us waqt sey phaila huwa hai jab sey Saudi sarzameen per pehla Angrez utra tha!! Us waqt jo beej boya geya tha ham aaj tak uski ka phal kaat rahey hain!

(just to make the history clear, aap ney Tipu Sultan ki misaal di hai, kya aap jaantey hain keh Tipu Sultan ki Franseesiyon sey bohat gehri fauji dosti thi?)

[sccorpion81]

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:) Yassir Yassir Yassir - thora sa khuley dimagh ka ho ker halaat aur waqeyat ko parakh ker samjhiyey aur phir dekhiyey keh haqeeqat kya hai. 1999 mein jab Musharraf ney Nawaz hakoomat ka takhta ulta tha to yehi woh qom thi jisney kaha tha keh hamarey saron per sey aik beghairat leader ka saya uth geya hai :) Yehi woh qom thi jisney Kargil key fateh ko qom hero aur Nawaz ko Bill Clington ka bacha kah ker ussey galiyaan diya karti thi :)

Sir, wo us waqt ki baat thee jab qom ko yeh ilm hi nahien tha k kargil main fateh hoi ya shikast....sab yahi samjhtay rahay k kargil ham ne lay liya tha laikin haqeeqat tu aaj khul rahi hai k wahan tu ham shikast se dochaar ho rahay thay aur nawaz Shareef ne apni foj ki izat bachanay k liey wo sab kuch kiya tha .... yeh sab kuch tu aaj un foji Genrals k inkashafat k baad pata chal raha hai k asal main hoowa kiya tha ... warna qom tu us waqt usi jazbay se sarshar ho ker nawaz shareef ko bura bhala keh rahi thee

Agar Musharraf ki jaggah per KOI bhi hota to woh WOHI karta jo Musharraf ney kiya hai - kyun keh us sey 3-4 saal pehley Nawaz Shareef ney Bill Clington key paoun isi tarha chatey they aur Pakistani Bait-ul-Maal sey British akhbaron mein advertisement chalaii thi jis mein Pakistani Fauj ko THE ROUG ARMY kaha geya tha :)

is ka jawab bhi wo hi ooper wala hai...k us time haqeeqat ka ilam kisi ko nahien tha..aur musharaf k cheef honay ki wajha say koi bol bhi nahien sakta tha

11 September key baad duniya ko jo soorat-e-haal badli hai, us waqt aap key mulk ka koi aik dushman nahin tha, Hindustan, jiski aqeedat karna aaj hamara farz-e-awleen ban geya hai, usney Amerika key aagey haathey jorrey paoun pakrey keh aap Pakistan per hamla karein Bharat'mata main aap ko deta hoon - Yassir sahib us waqt agar Musharraf ney aisa faisla na kiya hota to shayid aaj hamara mulk safha-e-hasti per na hota. Agar hota to uska kya naqsha hota yeh aap shayid soch saktey hain!!!

Sir, america itna bewaqoof nahien hai k wo india k kehney per aik atomic power per hamla ker day..america sirf nihaton per hi apni gun utha sakta hai...wo sirf whien per hamla kerta hai jahan us ko maidan saaf nazar aata ho...kia aap samjhtay hain k aap k mutabiq jis foj ko THE ROUGH ARMY keh diya gya ho tu kia america us ka samna ker paaey ga???
wo kabhi ochne ki himat bhi nahien kere ga...Jo mulk Iran per aaj tak hamla nahien ker saka jab k us ko clear bhi nahien tha k us k pass kuch hai ya nahien tu us ki kiya jurat k wo Pakistan per hamla kere jantay boojhtay
laikin us k liey bhi aik shart hai k Hamara Hukamran dalair hona chahiey jo apni qom ki himat ko bandha sakay....us ko mushkilon ka samna kerne k liey tayar ker sakay na k musharaf k jaisa chooha....main maan hi nahien sakta Musharaf ki 10 sala hukamrani k baad k us jesa shakhs Kargil main larta raha ho

Rahi baat Us Nabi Us Allah ki to come on - kya ham apney aap ko us Nabi us Allah key pairokaar kehlwaney key haqdar hain??? Kya hamarey aemaal aisey hain keh ham 335 naujawan ley ker 1000ron ki fauj key khilaaf uth sakein? Merey bhai woh 335 MUJAHID they jinhein SHAHADAT ka shoq tha aur woh JEHAD ka mafhoom samajhtey they - aap apney dil per haath rakh ker btaiyey keh is waqt duniya mein kitney Islami mulk aisey hain jahan per JEHAD ka mafhoom samjha jata hai???? Koi aik mulk ais nahin jo ISLAMI mulk ho, kya Saudi Arab, Kya Iran, Kya Pakistan.

Sir, Ham aisay kabhi nahien thay hamain aisa bna diya gya hai....Ham ko fahashi, ki lat daal ker nikama ker diya gya hai....Ghurbat k choolay main jhonk ker chor aur daakooo aur deshat gard bna diya gya hai, Jihad ka naam khatam kis ne kiya .... aap k ilam main ho ga k jab is shaks ki hakoomat nahien aaiee thee tu us waqt tak yahan kitni jihadi tanzeemain kaam ker rahi theen, Kashmir, Phalistain, Afghanistan aur dunia k doosray mumalik main jahan jahan jihad ho raha tha un main pakistani mujhahideen sar e fehrist thay laikin kiya hooowa un ko dehshat gard bna diya gya...tanzeemon ko band ker diya gya...Aaj kisi ko khabar tak nahien k kashmir main kiya ho raha hai

Jab ham musalmano ki halaat-e-zaar hi aisi mutzalzal hai to hamein kisi AIK insaan ko uska qasoorwar thehraney ka haq nahin chahey woh Musharraf ho ya koi aur! Hamari ragon mein andhera us waqt sey phaila huwa hai jab sey Saudi sarzameen per pehla Angrez utra tha!! Us waqt jo beej boya geya tha ham aaj tak uski ka phal kaat rahey hain!

Masood Bhaaeee Musalmanon ko is halat e zzar tak phonchanay wala kon hai???...yahi hukamran...Saudi Arab per jab baat aati hai tu wo pehlay Pakistan ki taraf aik dafa daikhta zaroor hai laikin jab wo dekhta hai k yeh tu ab apni hifazat k qabil bhi nahien rahay tu bil aakhir us ko un ki baat man'ni parti hai kiun k us k pass koi taqat nahien hai...aur hamare buzdil hukamran peh un ko koi aitmad nahien hai k wo kab aur kis time per apni baat se phir jaey

(just to make the history clear, aap ney Tipu Sultan ki misaal di hai, kya aap jaantey hain keh Tipu Sultan ki Franseesiyon sey bohat gehri fauji dosti thi?)

Sir beshak hoon gay Tipu k Farseesiyon k saath fouji taluqat...laikin us ne kabhi apni islami riwayat ko nahien chora....us ne kabhi koi aisa faisla nahien kiya jo islami riwayat ya apni mumliqat aur awam k khilaf jata ho
aur islam ne yeh kahien bhi mana nahien kiya k apne dushmanon se tualuqat mat barhao wo jahan mukalmay se kaam chalta tha muqalima kerta tha aur baat cheet se muamila hal kerta tha aur jahan talwar ki zaroorat peri tu us se bhi wo kabhi nahien hichkichaya

[sarfraz_qamar]

kion save passage dia ajey?
jab pakistan me aam awaam ko saza ho sakti he,seyastadon ko saza ho sakti he(bhuto ki phansi)wakilon ko saza ho sakti he to ye musharaf kia asmaan se utra he?:fuming:is ne to wo kuch kia he jis ko theek karne me pata nahi kitni sadiyan lagen.is ko phansi ki saza to bohat kam he.kitne logon ka khoon bahaya he is ne or kitne bech deay hen,koi hisab he???

Musharraff aassmman sayy naheee uttraaa ,,,,but hamain Ground Realities koo dekhhnnaa chahieyyy,,,aajj Pk kayy Hal;latt Mazzeed Afraa Tafreeee kayy moothammal naheee hoo sakkttayyyyy,,,,,lihazzaa Takaraoo kee policy kee bajaieyy Mossllahhat sayy Mammallaa koo hall karrnaa hooo gaaaa,,,,,,,
Agar Save passage dennay sayy musharraf sayy jaann chhoot saktee haii yoo iss sayy barrah karr achhee baat shayyadd hee koii aoorr hoooo kunkehh pk kee Tareekkh Gawahh haii kisee bhee Gernaill kaa moakhazzaa howwaa haii aoor naa hee koi izzatt kayy sathh giaa haiiii