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    Mohtram, aap ney likha: "Musharaf key aaney sey pehley aap fauj key deewaney they" - kya us waqt faujiyon ka haal officer ki tarha hota tha? Ya us waqt bhi fauji faqt aik fauji tha?

    Aap ney Sultan Teepu ki misaal di, main ney tareekh mein kabhi aisa koi waqiya to nahin parha, chalein aap kehtey hain to maan leta hoon, magar aap Hazrat SAFIA (RA) ki misaal kyun bhool gaey jo apney ghar ki hifazat mein pesh pesh thin? Aap Hazra ASMA (RA) ko kyun bhool gaey jinhon ney ghazwoun mein musalman sipahiyon ko paani pilati rahin?

    Iran ki fauj mein kya auratein shamil nahin hain?

    Aap aik shadeed tention ka shikar hain aur woh tention hai, aik general ka iqtidaar sambhalna - mazeed aap ki koi tention nahin. Waisey merey nazdeek aap ka shumar un logon mein hota hai jo kabhi kisi haal mein khush nahin rah saktey - Nawaz Hakoomat thi to bhi yaqinan aap kisi MASEEHA ki talash mein they - Musharraf key ibtidaii din aap key liyey khushiyon key din hongey, ab jab halaat bohat had tak badal chukey hain to aap ko yeh bih raas nahin aa raha.
    tumharey bas mein agar ho to bhool jao mujhey
    tumhein bhulaney mein shayid mujhey zamana lagey

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    • #3
      Re: suffard aor faoj.

      AsalamOalaykum !!

      Suffard bhai , yahan pe kuch rules hain ap follow karo Moderators ne acha kia kah fitna aur inteshaar na phailay es lye wo thread close kar dia.

      Aur ap jitni mehnat aisi batain karnay pe lagatay hain kia hi bhala ho ap es qoom kay lye Dua karain, kia Allah ko nahi pata kah Musharaf Zalim hay ya bura hai ????

      Allah bhi farmatay hain, mafhoom hai " kah jaisi Qoom ho gi waisa hi Hukmaran Ho ga". Tu phir humain sochna chahye ? hum khud kia kartay hain bas apas mein lartay hain ? ya aisay topic shero kar kay ap kia Musharaf ko Bura sabat kar saktay hain sab ko pata hai wo Acha nahi hai, phir baar baar Bura kah kay aisi wording use kar kay os ko Gandha sabat karnay ka kia maqsad hai?
      Ap kia yahi chahtay hain saray yahan pe kahay Musharaf bura ? thoo thoo karain lolss...

      Kia hi acha ho ap aisi batain karnay ki bajaye hum Nawafal Adda karain Behtari kay. :)

      Khush Rahain, Har cheez ka ilaaj danda nahi hota :).

      Mazrat chahta hoon agar koi baat buri lagi ho tu.

      Jazak'Allah

      Allah hafiz

      Kis nooN haal sunawaN dil daa ....Koi mehram raaz nai mildaaa!
      Sadly, common sense is not very common..!!

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      • #4
        Re: suffard aor faoj.

        Shaim hamra ya yaha sa ak Post Gayeb hogya kya waja ha ?

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        • #5
          Re: suffard aor faoj.

          Well suffard Bhai.......apny jo bhi likha.....m agree wid that :thmbup:
          pr ik baat ki addition k sath:

          dekhin main aksir soochti hoon....wo sipaahii jo fojj ka hissa hain.....beshak aj kal unki jang apny hi watan k logon sy apny hi behn/bhaion sy sahii
          pr aksir ik baat zehn mai aati hai......k unki JOB pata nahi unky khaandaan k kitny hi logoon ka sahara hai.....shaid pait k darr sy wo musharraf uncle ka her hi fasla man lety hain....
          or istifa nahi dety.....

          meri is baat pr ik jawab jo main hi khud ko deti hoon wo ye hai k " ALLAH pr bharoosa kr k usky hukm ki khilaaf warzi na krny k lye koi job choory......to ALLAH TAALA khud uska rizk kushaada karin gy"

          pr phr bhi.....shaid hamara IMAAN kamzoor ho chuka hai.

          yahan ik baat or quote krna chahoon gi

          Captain Salman....jo Laal Masjid operation mai initial days mai Foj ki qiyadat kr rahy thy....or khabar ai k wo Shaheed ho gae....us pr aksir sipahion ka hi ye kehna tha k unho ny "NO" kaha tha.........k main bombs nahi blast karany doon ga......to unhi k sathi ny peechy se unhy gooli maari thi.

          well baat na man'ny pr ye haal bhi ho jata hai......inhi tamaam darr or khoof ki wajah se shaid log istifas nahi dety :)

          baaqi q k ye thread tahaal....masly masail se paak hai to apna view dena chahoon gi.....
          Main fojj k against nahi hoon.......sirf Musharraf k against hoon....or fojj mai rehny waly....or normal zindagi guzarny walon mai bhi unky against hoon jo jaanty boojhty hoe bhi apni zindagian ISLAM k mutafiq guzarna nahi chahty or even try tak nahi krty.....

          fojj mai kae log aisy hain or kae aisy hain jinka goal Pakistan ki salamti or baqa hai......or unhy main salute krti hoon

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          • #6
            Re: suffard aor faoj.

            Originally posted by Masood View Post
            Aap ney Sultan Teepu ki misaal di, main ney tareekh mein kabhi aisa koi waqiya to nahin parha, chalein aap kehtey hain to maan leta hoon, magar aap Hazrat SAFIA (RA) ki misaal kyun bhool gaey jo apney ghar ki hifazat mein pesh pesh thin? Aap Hazra ASMA (RA) ko kyun bhool gaey jinhon ney ghazwoun mein musalman sipahiyon ko paani pilati rahin?

            Iran ki fauj mein kya auratein shamil nahin hain?


            Here i agree with wat u said! :thmbup:

            Aap aik shadeed tention ka shikar hain aur woh tention hai, aik general ka iqtidaar sambhalna - mazeed aap ki koi tention nahin. Waisey merey nazdeek aap ka shumar un logon mein hota hai jo kabhi kisi haal mein khush nahin rah saktey Nawaz Hakoomat thi to bhi yaqinan aap kisi MASEEHA ki talash mein they - Musharraf key ibtidaii din aap key liyey khushiyon key din hongey, ab jab halaat bohat had tak badal chukey hain to aap ko yeh bih raas nahin aa raha.
            :tauba

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by Nokia_Afridi View Post
              Shaim hamra ya yaha sa ak Post Gayeb hogya kya waja ha ?

              Mainy remove nahi ki hai Nokia Bhai :)

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              • #8
                Re: suffard aor faoj.

                Originally posted by GumShuda View Post
                AsalamOalaykum !!

                Suffard bhai , yahan pe kuch rules hain ap follow karo Moderators ne acha kia kah fitna aur inteshaar na phailay es lye wo thread close kar dia.



                Walikum Assalam!

                Thread is lye close hoa k PG k buhat hi old n respectful member wahan "Personal Attacks" se baaz nahi a rahy thy....or debate topic se hatt kr zaat pr a chuki thi 2ono sides sy :)

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                • #9
                  Re: suffard aor faoj.

                  Originally posted by GumShuda View Post

                  Allah bhi farmatay hain, mafhoom hai " kah jaisi Qoom ho gi waisa hi Hukmaran Ho ga". Tu phir humain sochna chahye ? hum khud kia kartay hain bas apas mein lartay hain ? ya aisay topic shero kar kay ap kia Musharaf ko Bura sabat kar saktay hain sab ko pata hai wo Acha nahi hai, phir baar baar Bura kah kay aisi wording use kar kay os ko Gandha sabat karnay ka kia maqsad hai?


                  maqsad ye hai k usko Pakistan se hataya ja saky.....well no doubt humin khud k amaal darust krny ki bhi buhat zaroorat hai ..... or ye bhi possible hai k hum apny amaal darust karin to ALLAH TAALA inaam k taur pr humin koi accha hukmiran dain :)

                  Ap kia yahi chahtay hain saray yahan pe kahay Musharaf bura ? thoo thoo karain lolss...


                  really lolzZz :D :D
                  Kia hi acha ho ap aisi batain karnay ki bajaye hum Nawafal Adda karain Behtari kay. :)

                  Khush Rahain, Har cheez ka ilaaj danda nahi hota :).

                  Mazrat chahta hoon agar koi baat buri lagi ho tu.

                  Jazak'Allah

                  Allah hafiz
                  Impressive Thoughts :thmbup:
                  JAZAK ALLAH :thmbup:

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                  • #10
                    Re: VIEWS: suffard aor faoj.

                    Sufi Bhi.........

                    Ma na Agbar ma Ak Artic para ta Jes ma Ak Sahafi na

                    Mufti Taqi Usmani sahib Karachay wala jo abe zinda unhay fone kya

                    LAL Mazjad ka Waqay ka 2 din bad kaha ka Mufti sahib ya Kahu ka

                    Kon Shahid hua Kon halak...............

                    Mufti sahib na jawab deya Kehna Bohat Mushkil hay Per Ap kasay

                    kahtay hay ka Lal Mazjad walay Shahed hogay hay ?........

                    Ya Shahadat Koi Halwa hay kya ?

                    Kon Kehta hay Apney hey Logo ko maru Shahadat hay...

                    Hota tu Mulana Hasan jan sahib kahtay........

                    Jo khud apnay hey logo na mara hay.......

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                    • #11
                      Re: suffard aor faoj.

                      Originally posted by Shaim View Post
                      Well suffard Bhai.......apny jo bhi likha.....m agree wid that :thmbup:
                      pr ik baat ki addition k sath:

                      dekhin main aksir soochti hoon....wo sipaahii jo fojj ka hissa hain.....beshak aj kal unki jang apny hi watan k logon sy apny hi behn/bhaion sy sahii
                      pr aksir ik baat zehn mai aati hai......k unki JOB pata nahi unky khaandaan k kitny hi logoon ka sahara hai.....shaid pait k darr sy wo musharraf uncle ka her hi fasla man lety hain....
                      or istifa nahi dety.....

                      meri is baat pr ik jawab jo main hi khud ko deti hoon wo ye hai k " ALLAH pr bharoosa kr k usky hukm ki khilaaf warzi na krny k lye koi job choory......to ALLAH TAALA khud uska rizk kushaada karin gy"

                      pr phr bhi.....shaid hamara IMAAN kamzoor ho chuka hai.

                      yahan ik baat or quote krna chahoon gi

                      Captain Salman....jo Laal Masjid operation mai initial days mai Foj ki qiyadat kr rahy thy....or khabar ai k wo Shaheed ho gae....us pr aksir sipahion ka hi ye kehna tha k unho ny "NO" kaha tha.........k main bombs nahi blast karany doon ga......to unhi k sathi ny peechy se unhy gooli maari thi.

                      well baat na man'ny pr ye haal bhi ho jata hai......inhi tamaam darr or khoof ki wajah se shaid log istifas nahi dety :)

                      baaqi q k ye thread tahaal....masly masail se paak hai to apna view dena chahoon gi.....
                      Main fojj k against nahi hoon.......sirf Musharraf k against hoon....or fojj mai rehny waly....or normal zindagi guzarny walon mai bhi unky against hoon jo jaanty boojhty hoe bhi apni zindagian ISLAM k mutafiq guzarna nahi chahty or even try tak nahi krty.....

                      fojj mai kae log aisy hain or kae aisy hain jinka goal Pakistan ki salamti or baqa hai......or unhy main salute krti hoon
                      agreed:thmbup:

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                      • #12
                        Re: suffard aor faoj.

                        Originally posted by Masood View Post
                        Mohtram, aap ney likha: "Musharaf key aaney sey pehley aap fauj key deewaney they" - kya us waqt faujiyon ka haal officer ki tarha hota tha? Ya us waqt bhi fauji faqt aik fauji tha?

                        Aap ney Sultan Teepu ki misaal di, main ney tareekh mein kabhi aisa koi waqiya to nahin parha, chalein aap kehtey hain to maan leta hoon, magar aap Hazrat SAFIA (RA) ki misaal kyun bhool gaey jo apney ghar ki hifazat mein pesh pesh thin? Aap Hazra ASMA (RA) ko kyun bhool gaey jinhon ney ghazwoun mein musalman sipahiyon ko paani pilati rahin?

                        Iran ki fauj mein kya auratein shamil nahin hain?

                        Aap aik shadeed tention ka shikar hain aur woh tention hai, aik general ka iqtidaar sambhalna - mazeed aap ki koi tention nahin. Waisey merey nazdeek aap ka shumar un logon mein hota hai jo kabhi kisi haal mein khush nahin rah saktey - Nawaz Hakoomat thi to bhi yaqinan aap kisi MASEEHA ki talash mein they - Musharraf key ibtidaii din aap key liyey khushiyon key din hongey, ab jab halaat bohat had tak badal chukey hain to aap ko yeh bih raas nahin aa raha.
                        Totally agree to you masood bhai!:thmbup:
                        Aik baat mein yahan kaafi waqt se note kar rahi hoon ke yahan Islam ka naam le kar sirf two point agenday ko propogate kiya ja raha hai.
                        1.Mard darian rakhain
                        2.Auraton ko ghar mein band kar do aur unhain har tarah se dabao.
                        Kiya shariat sirf yahin tak mahdood hai?
                        Yahan khuateen ke hawalay se aisa rawaya rakha ja raha hai jo christianity se qareeb tar hai,ke aurat gumrahi phailati hai so usay kahin band kar ke rakh daina chahiay.
                        Maira khiyaal hai ke Aurat se hat kar bhi Islam mein bohat kuch hai aap us per guftagoo kiyun nahin kartay.Maslan Islam mein riasat afraad ki kafeel hoti hai.Aap Islam ke mutabiq aisa muashi nizaam kiyun nahin introduce karwatay jis se Pakistan ki awam ki khushhali ki rah niklay.
                        Yeh kiyun nahin samajhtay ke baghair tahqeeq ke ghalat batein logon mein phailana ghair islami hai(Jaisa ke Tipu sultan wala waqia).
                        Aur bhi bohat kuch hai.Mairi guzarish hai ke please aisay issues per baat karain jin se ham taraqi aur khush'haali ki rah per gamzan hoon aur qoum ko positive activities milain jis se crime rate mein kami ho waghaira waghaira.
                        Umeed hai suffard sahib is per ghour karain gay.
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                        • #13
                          Re: suffard aor faoj.

                          Originally posted by Masood View Post
                          Mohtram, aap ney likha: "Musharaf key aaney sey pehley aap fauj key deewaney they" - kya us waqt faujiyon ka haal officer ki tarha hota tha? Ya us waqt bhi fauji faqt aik fauji tha?

                          Aap ney Sultan Teepu ki misaal di, main ney tareekh mein kabhi aisa koi waqiya to nahin parha, chalein aap kehtey hain to maan leta hoon, magar aap Hazrat SAFIA (RA) ki misaal kyun bhool gaey jo apney ghar ki hifazat mein pesh pesh thin? Aap Hazra ASMA (RA) ko kyun bhool gaey jinhon ney ghazwoun mein musalman sipahiyon ko paani pilati rahin?

                          Iran ki fauj mein kya auratein shamil nahin hain?

                          Aap aik shadeed tention ka shikar hain aur woh tention hai, aik general ka iqtidaar sambhalna - mazeed aap ki koi tention nahin. Waisey merey nazdeek aap ka shumar un logon mein hota hai jo kabhi kisi haal mein khush nahin rah saktey - Nawaz Hakoomat thi to bhi yaqinan aap kisi MASEEHA ki talash mein they - Musharraf key ibtidaii din aap key liyey khushiyon key din hongey, ab jab halaat bohat had tak badal chukey hain to aap ko yeh bih raas nahin aa raha.
                          janab musharaf kay anay say foji ki saari reputation kharaab ho gai hai.
                          doosra janab tareekh aap ki almaari main para hua koi novel nahi hai aor janab teepu sultan ki tareekh international libraries main bhee hai.
                          janaab mera shumaar un logon main jo pakistan bannay say ab tak kush nahi hain.....kion keh pakistan main abhi tak islaami nizaam nafiz hee nahi hua.....aor waqai main aik maseha ki talaash m,ain hon jo is qaom ko us ki sahee rah bata sacay...kiya nawaaz shareef maseeha hai?????:jazak:
                          janab iraan main aorat be pardah bhee hai kiya hum in ko bhee beperdah kar dain???
                          janab mujhay aik baat ki samajh nahi aati keh waisay too aap log zamanoon ki batain kartay hain ab yahan kiya hai??????us waqat musalmanoo ki tadaad kitni thi yeh bhee bata dain zara?????hazrat muhammad(pbuh) kay zamanay main???
                          aorat bhee jehaad kar sacti hai lakin mard kay baad.
                          chalain agar maan bhee laitay hain too kiya yeh sab perday main ....muaaf kijiyae ga mainnay parday ki baat ki kion keh pardah aaj kal aik farsooda chez ban chuki hai.
                          Last edited by suffard; 19 November 2007, 22:07.
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                          • #14
                            Re: suffard aor faoj.

                            Originally posted by GumShuda View Post
                            AsalamOalaykum !!

                            Suffard bhai , yahan pe kuch rules hain ap follow karo Moderators ne acha kia kah fitna aur inteshaar na phailay es lye wo thread close kar dia.

                            Aur ap jitni mehnat aisi batain karnay pe lagatay hain kia hi bhala ho ap es qoom kay lye Dua karain, kia Allah ko nahi pata kah Musharaf Zalim hay ya bura hai ????

                            Allah bhi farmatay hain, mafhoom hai " kah jaisi Qoom ho gi waisa hi Hukmaran Ho ga". Tu phir humain sochna chahye ? hum khud kia kartay hain bas apas mein lartay hain ? ya aisay topic shero kar kay ap kia Musharaf ko Bura sabat kar saktay hain sab ko pata hai wo Acha nahi hai, phir baar baar Bura kah kay aisi wording use kar kay os ko Gandha sabat karnay ka kia maqsad hai?
                            Ap kia yahi chahtay hain saray yahan pe kahay Musharaf bura ? thoo thoo karain lolss...

                            Kia hi acha ho ap aisi batain karnay ki bajaye hum Nawafal Adda karain Behtari kay. :)

                            Khush Rahain, Har cheez ka ilaaj danda nahi hota :).

                            Mazrat chahta hoon agar koi baat buri lagi ho tu.

                            Jazak'Allah

                            Allah hafiz
                            masjid main bhaith kar allah allah karna hee deen nahi hai
                            zulam kay khilaaf awaaz ythana bhee deen hai.
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                            • #15
                              Re: suffard aor faoj.

                              Originally posted by Nokia_Afridi View Post
                              Shaim hamra ya yaha sa ak Post Gayeb hogya kya waja ha ?
                              khaan sahib khap na paya karoo.
                              kahwa piyoooooo:rose
                              i love uuu
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