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  • #61
    Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

    Originally posted by ScorpioN_RulzZ View Post
    w/salam,
    laikin mujhay is baat par koi hairat nahi hoi, agar koi AILAN kay option maiN apnay thread ka link de'sakta hai to phir yahan sab kuch ho sakta hai...!! aur maiN nay jis wajah say isay ghalat kaha hai shayad woh tum nay paRha he nahi...!!

    n no reply on it please kion kay tumhari LAIKIN ka jawab mery pass nahi...!!
    sorry 4 quoting ur post in my reply
    per mere khyal mai ye koi solution nahi hai discuss na kerna....aksar cheezin discuission k baad clear bhi ho jaati hain:)
    AILAN k option mai apne thread ka link dena.........MEANS???

    maine sab perha hai....main reply is lye nahi kerti q k i m affraid i wud leave my patience......which i dont wana loose:)

    KHUSH RAHYYE!:)

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    • #62
      Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

      Originally posted by TheMask View Post
      1965 ki Jung may Lahore Border per PAK Fuj Kay Nu-Jawanooon Nay Kud-Kush Hamle Kiye Or India Ko Lahore per Hamla Kernay say Roka Tha Kia wo Na-Jaiz Kam Tha ? [/color][/size]
      janab baat yehh haii kehh aap nayy kahaa kehh jamia walay thoraa jazbatee hoo rahay hainn to bhaii saraa maslaa iuss jazbatee pann kaa haii konsaa muslman aisaa hoo gaa joo islamic qwaneen kaa nifazz naa chahtaa hoo main bhee as a muslim islamic qwaneen kaa nifazz cchahtaa hoo magar iss tarah nahee jiss tarhh yehh Ghazee Brotheran karr rhayy hain yehh islam koo badnaam karnay kee shazish keyy siwa kush nahee
      number 2 aap nayy joo 1965 walay khoodkush hamloon kee batt kee haii to janab wohh hamlay Nonmuslims kayy khilaff kieyy gayee thayy aorr joo Ghazee brotheran baat karr rahay hain yehh hamalay eik Islamic state main mojood Muslims kayy khialf hoo gayyy aoor iss main khoon bhee bacharayy moslmanoon kaa bahayy gaa main nayy aap sayy pehlay bhee kahaa thaa kehh Molanaa Hanif Jalindharee joo Mustanad aalim e din hain unn kayy mutabiq Pk main khoodkush hamlay balikol bhee jaizz naheeeeee yehh to mulk main intisharr phalanay walee baat haiii aoor kuch bhee nahee
      "Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? "

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      • #63
        Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

        Originally posted by ScorpioN_RulzZ View Post
        mery khayal maiN yeh ziada behtar rahay ga..
        1. Personal Views ko Stuck nahee kia jata...!! ya to is thread maiN sab ki raiy le ja rhee hoti ya phir yeh Pegham ka Approved Nazariya hota tab sticky hota...!! agar yeh kehtay ho kay yeh current affair tha to mery khayal main halat-e-hazira maiN current affairz par he baat ki jati hai, kisi mood ko apni zati raiy stick karnay ka ikhtiyar nahee hota.
        Yeh Thread Mein nay Stick Nahe Kia Aisay Ilzamat ki Kiya Zaroorat Aan-pari Ap ko Muje Kafi Ajeeb Laga Kay Bina Tehqeeq Ap Nay yeh bat meray Zimi lagadi Yeh Kesi Monopli Hai ?
        2. tum nay jama-e-hifsa kay aalim ko THEEK aur un ki mukhalfat karnay waloN ko SARKARI aur tankha'daar kaha, kia itni inteha'pasandi theek hai ?? tum kehtay ho kay maiN maanta hooN kay masjid ghair qanoni zameen par bani par us waqt intezamia kahan thee aur jab SAHEH SHAREYAT aur SUCHA ISLAM nafiz honay laga to sab bilbilanay lagay, agar tum nay raiy qaim karnay say pehlay tehqeeq karli hoti to is say pehlay bhi aik sawal uThta hai kay itnay NAIK aur THEEK ulma ko najaiz qabza karkay masjid ta'meer karnay ki zarorat he kia thee ?? un kay pass yeh THEEK aur SAHIH islam kahaN say pohncha hai.. ??
        3. Yeh 2noo Ilfaz Ap nay Use kiye Hain Meri Janib say Aisi koi Bat nahe Aey Hain Allah ka shuker hai Yeh or Bat hai Ab koi manay ya na manay kesi kay aik Qair-qanoni fail say us ki sari zindagi Gair-ganoni nahe ho jati humain apne soch badalna hogi,
      • tum dosroN ki mukhalfat par proof mang rahay ho par thread start tum nay kia hai aur us maiN koi proof nahi sivaiy is kay kay tum behtar jantay ho...?? hat'ta kay kuch ulma bhi nahi jaan paiy magar tum nay jaan lia kay kaun theek hai aur kaun ghalat.
      baqi inshaAllah baad maiN, phoppo kay inteqal ki wajah say masroof hoon aajkal.
      1. Mein Nay Kab Kaha meri Ruy Harf-e-Akir Hai ? Ap Iktilaf kerooo yeh achi bat hai Ager Ap Dalil k sath meray Nazriya kay sath Iktilaf ker saktey hoo tho mein Apne Ruy Badal Lon ga Insha Allah or wesay he agay pechay li lagao gay to koi b apne Ruy nahe badalta shahid ap b nahe .....Phopo per Afsos Hai Lakin yeh Allah ki marzi hai Allah Ap ko baqi Pasmandagan ko Sabar-e-Jamil Ata keray Ameen

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    • #64
      Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

      Originally posted by sarfraz_qamar View Post
      janab baat yehh haii kehh aap nayy kahaa kehh jamia walay thoraa jazbatee hoo rahay hainn to bhaii saraa maslaa iuss jazbatee pann kaa haii konsaa muslman aisaa hoo gaa joo islamic qwaneen kaa nifazz naa chahtaa hoo main bhee as a muslim islamic qwaneen kaa nifazz cchahtaa hoo magar iss tarah nahee jiss tarhh yehh Ghazee Brotheran karr rhayy hain yehh islam koo badnaam karnay kee shazish keyy siwa kush nahee
      number 2 aap nayy joo 1965 walay khoodkush hamloon kee batt kee haii to janab wohh hamlay Nonmuslims kayy khilaff kieyy gayee thayy aorr joo Ghazee brotheran baat karr rahay hain yehh hamalay eik Islamic state main mojood Muslims kayy khialf hoo gayyy aoor iss main khoon bhee bacharayy moslmanoon kaa bahayy gaa main nayy aap sayy pehlay bhee kahaa thaa kehh Molanaa Hanif Jalindharee joo Mustanad aalim e din hain unn kayy mutabiq Pk main khoodkush hamlay balikol bhee jaizz naheeeeee yehh to mulk main intisharr phalanay walee baat haiii aoor kuch bhee nahee
      Tho Kia Jamia Hafsa.R.A or Lal-Masjid Walay Muslim Nahe ? Kia un ka Khon Muft ya Be-Kar hai ? kia wo Pakistani nahe ? Jab Ap per Qatlana Hamla Hoga to App Apne jan ki Hifat k liye Qatil ki Jan le saktey Ho its law of PAK Contitution So Lal-Masjid walay es Law kay Tehtat Apne Jan ki Hifazt k liye Hamla Kerain gay yeh koi Gair-Qanooni Nahe

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      • #65
        Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

        Originally posted by Me Here View Post
        aksar cheezin discuission k baad clear bhi ho jaati hain:)
        for example ???

        Originally posted by Me Here View Post
        AILAN k option mai apne thread ka link dena.........MEANS???
        maiN nay last post maiN no reply on it isi leay kaha tha....!! maiN khud ko jawab day chuka hoon, har forum kay alag rulz hotay hain, lazmi nahi jo maiN janta hoon woh behtar hai.... jab forum par aik Smod Announcement kay option main apnay thread ki announcement kar sakta hai to yaqinan is forum kay rulz kuch alag he hongaiy jis say mujhay koi sarokar nahi, aur yeh meri ghalti thee kay maiN nay is forum kay rulz janay baghair aik baat ko ghalat keh dia... your forum your rules your attitude....
        That's Enough...!!

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        • #66
          Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

          Originally posted by TheMask View Post
          Yeh Thread Mein nay Stick Nahe Kia Aisay Ilzamat ki Kiya Zaroorat Aan-pari Ap ko Muje Kafi Ajeeb Laga Kay Bina Tehqeeq Ap Nay yeh bat meray Zimi lagadi Yeh Kesi Monopli Hai ?
          jee haan yeh meri ghalti hai.... mujh say ziadah tumhaiN elm hai kay is forum kay rulz kia haiN aur jis mod nay bhi kia hai yaqinan rulz kay mutabiq he kia hai...!!

          Originally posted by TheMask View Post
          Yeh 2noo Ilfaz Ap nay Use kiye Hain Meri Janib say Aisi koi Bat nahe Aey Hain Allah ka shuker hai Yeh or Bat hai Ab koi manay ya na manay kesi kay aik Qair-qanoni fail say us ki sari zindagi Gair-ganoni nahe ho jati humain apne soch badalna hogi
          http://www.pegham.com/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=25

          Originally posted by TheMask View Post
          Mein Nay Kab Kaha meri Ruy Harf-e-Akir Hai ? Ap Iktilaf kerooo yeh achi bat hai Ager Ap Dalil k sath meray Nazriya kay sath Iktilaf ker saktey hoo tho mein Apne Ruy Badal Lon ga Insha Allah or wesay he agay pechay li lagao gay to koi b apne Ruy nahe badalta shahid ap b nahe
          maiN shayad yeh baat arz kar chuka hoon kay jis nay thread start kia hai woh apni baat ki daleel paish karay...?? jab kaha kay tumhari nazar maiN woh SAHIH hain to tum nay kaha kay yeh alfaz maiN nay istemal keay haiN aur tum nay nahi.... opar tumahri he post ka link hai aik baar paRh lena...!!
          That's Enough...!!

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          • #67
            Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

            Originally posted by ScorpioN_RulzZ View Post
            for example ???
            ik baar apko yaad ho ga i was in problem.......n by seeking n doing discussions u told me the solution n that was firmly solved



            Originally posted by ScorpioN_RulzZ View Post
            maiN nay last post maiN no reply on it isi leay kaha tha....!! maiN khud ko jawab day chuka hoon, har forum kay alag rulz hotay hain, lazmi nahi jo maiN janta hoon woh behtar hai.... jab forum par aik Smod Announcement kay option main apnay thread ki announcement kar sakta hai to yaqinan is forum kay rulz kuch alag he hongaiy jis say mujhay koi sarokar nahi, aur yeh meri ghalti thee kay maiN nay is forum kay rulz janay baghair aik baat ko ghalat keh dia... your forum your rules your attitude

            Not my forum
            Not my rules
            n not my attitude

            bus ik hi cheez kehna chaahoon gi
            jab tak main is section ki Mod hoon....main kise bhi member se ye xpect nahi kerti k wo topic per baat kerne ki bajae kise ki zaat per baat kary.....mujeh ye cheez illogical or buhat buri lgti hai

            or ye wo waahid bat hai jis per mujeh lgta hai mera level of patience zero per hai

            so i wud say u k plz Bhai sirf topic per baat karin kise ki zat'iyaat per nahi..as i gave u the reason also to make the thread stuck

            KHUSH RAHYYE!:)

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            • #68
              Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

              Originally posted by Me Here View Post
              ik baar apko yaad ho ga i was in problem.......n by seeking n doing discussions u told me the solution n that was firmly solved
              i think seeking ziadah behtar hai, tum us problem ka hal talash kar'rhee theen is leay woh hal hogaya..


              Originally posted by Me Here View Post
              main kise bhi member se ye xpect nahi kerti k wo topic per baat kerne ki bajae kise ki zaat per baat kary.....mujeh ye cheez illogical or buhat buri lgti hai
              yahi baat maiN keh raha hoon...!! agar koi apna nazariya paish kar sakta hai to har shaks paish kar sakta hai... agar aap proof day nahee rahay to mangnay ka haq bhi nahi hai...!! matlab apni baat kaho aur dosray ko bhi kehnay do... Ana'ul'haq ka nara mat lagao, kia yeh tareeqa acha hai kay apni baat keh do aur jab dosra banda apna nazariya bayan karay to proof mango....??

              mujhay moqa milla to maiN woh sari post quote karonga jis nay mujhay majboor kia yahan reply karnay par, warna maiN yahan reply he nahi karna chahta tha... kioN kay har aik ka apna nuqta-e-nazar hota hai aur usay woh bayan karnay ka haq bhi hota hai, magar aisa kaheen nahi hota kay jab dosra apni baat kahay to behas ka aaghaz kardia jaiy kay maiN saheh tum ghalat....

              mask ka kehna hai kay jo bataiN maiN keh raha hoon woh us nay kaheen nahi kahi... aik quote oopar kia hai jis maiN us nay ba'qalam khud SAHIH ISLAM ka zikar kia hai.. time milla to apnay aiterazaat aur jis buniyad par keay haiN un sab ko quote kardonga.

              baqi yeh kay aiteraaf karna mushkil hai ba'nisbat hat'dharmi kay....!!
              That's Enough...!!

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              • #69
                Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

                Originally posted by sarfraz_qamar View Post
                janab baat yehh haii kehh aap nayy kahaa kehh jamia walay thoraa jazbatee hoo rahay hainn to bhaii saraa maslaa iuss jazbatee pann kaa haii konsaa muslman aisaa hoo gaa joo islamic qwaneen kaa nifazz naa chahtaa hoo main bhee as a muslim islamic qwaneen kaa nifazz cchahtaa hoo magar iss tarah nahee jiss tarhh yehh Ghazee Brotheran karr rhayy hain yehh islam koo badnaam karnay kee shazish keyy siwa kush nahee
                number 2 aap nayy joo 1965 walay khoodkush hamloon kee batt kee haii to janab wohh hamlay Nonmuslims kayy khilaff kieyy gayee thayy aorr joo Ghazee brotheran baat karr rahay hain yehh hamalay eik Islamic state main mojood Muslims kayy khialf hoo gayyy aoor iss main khoon bhee bacharayy moslmanoon kaa bahayy gaa main nayy aap sayy pehlay bhee kahaa thaa kehh Molanaa Hanif Jalindharee joo Mustanad aalim e din hain unn kayy mutabiq Pk main khoodkush hamlay balikol bhee jaizz naheeeeee yehh to mulk main intisharr phalanay walee baat haiii aoor kuch bhee nahee
                i don't think key yeh Ghazee brotheran ki sazish hay
                yeh sab kuch government jan boch ker ker rahi hay takey logon ki tawaju chief justice case sey hata ker is taraf lagai jaey

                i think what Ghazee brotheran is doing is not wrong
                but how Government is potraying is wrong

                Government in ko musalsal dashatgard key tor per dehka rahi hay;
                Government key minister Ijaz ul Haq
                Gazee Brothers ko " Demagi Mareeze " bar bar keh ker ishtial diala rahey haan

                akhir bateen key helicopter key pirnay ki kia waja thee
                government ney us ka order keeon dia

                takey chup hoey molvi pir bolnay lageen


                i don't see them wrong but government
                People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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                • #70
                  Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

                  Originally posted by ScorpioN_RulzZ View Post
                  i think seeking ziadah behtar hai, tum us problem ka hal talash kar'rhee theen is leay woh hal hogaya..




                  yahi baat maiN keh raha hoon...!! agar koi apna nazariya paish kar sakta hai to har shaks paish kar sakta hai... agar aap proof day nahee rahay to mangnay ka haq bhi nahi hai...!! matlab apni baat kaho aur dosray ko bhi kehnay do... Ana'ul'haq ka nara mat lagao, kia yeh tareeqa acha hai kay apni baat keh do aur jab dosra banda apna nazariya bayan karay to proof mango....??

                  mujhay moqa milla to maiN woh sari post quote karonga jis nay mujhay majboor kia yahan reply karnay par, warna maiN yahan reply he nahi karna chahta tha... kioN kay har aik ka apna nuqta-e-nazar hota hai aur usay woh bayan karnay ka haq bhi hota hai, magar aisa kaheen nahi hota kay jab dosra apni baat kahay to behas ka aaghaz kardia jaiy kay maiN saheh tum ghalat....

                  mask ka kehna hai kay jo bataiN maiN keh raha hoon woh us nay kaheen nahi kahi... aik quote oopar kia hai jis maiN us nay ba'qalam khud SAHIH ISLAM ka zikar kia hai.. time milla to apnay aiterazaat aur jis buniyad par keay haiN un sab ko quote kardonga.

                  baqi yeh kay aiteraaf karna mushkil hai ba'nisbat hat'dharmi kay....!!
                  yaar keeon jazbati ho rahey ho

                  sab apni rahey dee rahey haan , tum bi apni rahe do and bus

                  wo bi conspiracy theories dey rahey haan and tum bi
                  hakikat kia hay yeh Allah hi behtar janta hay

                  wasey hmm logon main (including myself) dosron ki baat sunney ka hosla kam sey kam hota ja raha hay and hmm yahi samajney lag jatey haan key jo kheal hmm ko aya hay wo 100% correct hay

                  for all parties please cool down
                  sub sirf apni apni rahey deen and thank you very much
                  People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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                  • #71
                    Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

                    Originally posted by TheMask View Post
                    Sarfaraz Qamar
                    Daikhain bhai! is main bhi aik problem hai,aur woh yeh kay pahlay bhi lal masjid walon nay jis khatoon ko ghar say uthaya tha us main baqoul unkay muhallay walon kay kahnay per aisa kiya gaya tha.Yahan ghour karain to sirf aik fareeq kay kahnay per karwai amal main laai gai hai.Agar masjid walon nay isay optional qarar diya hai to phir us waqt tak unhain darmian main nahin aana chahiyay jab tak donon fareeq un kay paas na aain.Aik fareeq kay kahnay per action kisi individual kay daira-e-kar main nahin.
                    Doosri baat muhalla commitees ya jirgay waghaira aksriat ki soch per bantay hain yeh nahin kay aik fard soch lay kay us nay jirga bana liya.Lal masjid walon say doosray tamam ulma ikhtilaaf rakhtay hain,unhain apnay usool sirf un logon per lago karnay chahian jo unhain tasleem karain.
                    Neelofar bakhtiar say mujhay koi hamdardi nahin hai,laikin main yeh zaroor karon gi kay agar lal masjid walon ka bas chalta to woh usay bhi ghaseet kar shariat main la khara kartay.Yahan bas nahin chala.
                    Last edited by zapk; 20 April 2007, 20:27.
                    Mind Sciences

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                    • #72
                      Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

                      Originally posted by TheMask View Post
                      Tho Kia Jamia Hafsa.R.A or Lal-Masjid Walay Muslim Nahe ? Kia un ka Khon Muft ya Be-Kar hai ? kia wo Pakistani nahe ? Jab Ap per Qatlana Hamla Hoga to App Apne jan ki Hifat k liye Qatil ki Jan le saktey Ho its law of PAK Contitution So Lal-Masjid walay es Law kay Tehtat Apne Jan ki Hifazt k liye Hamla Kerain gay yeh koi Gair-Qanooni Nahe
                      iss main koi shak nahee kehh yehh Jamia walay musalman hain magar unn koo kiss nayy kahaa haii kehh islamm kee ghalat tashree karoo ,ghalt andaz main pesh karoo aoor islam koo badnaam karoo jabb saree ulmaa kehh rahay hain kehh yehh tareeqa islamization kaa theek nahee too inn Jamia waloon koo samjh lenaa chahieyy kehh wohh ghalat hainnn ....apnee ghaltee koo tasleem karnay kee bajay Jiamia walay apnayy aap koo right aoor baqee tamam Ulmaa koo ghalat kehh rahaay hainn
                      aoor jahan takk baat Fidaii hamloon kee haiii to janab hakoomat bhee kamzoor nahee haii yehh to Musharaf kaa apnaa mafad haii joo uss nayy Jamia wallonn koo dheel dayy rakhee haii warnaa warnaa yehh Jamia walay Akbar Bugtee see Ziadaa powerfull nahee hainnn
                      "Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? "

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                      • #73
                        Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

                        Originally posted by sarfraz_qamar View Post
                        iss main koi shak nahee kehh yehh Jamia walay musalman hain magar unn koo kiss nayy kahaa haii kehh islamm kee ghalat tashree karoo ,ghalt andaz main pesh karoo aoor islam koo badnaam karoo jabb saree ulmaa kehh rahay hain kehh yehh tareeqa islamization kaa theek nahee too inn Jamia waloon koo samjh lenaa chahieyy kehh wohh ghalat hainnn ....apnee ghaltee koo tasleem karnay kee bajay Jiamia walay apnayy aap koo right aoor baqee tamam Ulmaa koo ghalat kehh rahaay hainn
                        aoor jahan takk baat Fidaii hamloon kee haiii to janab hakoomat bhee kamzoor nahee haii yehh to Musharaf kaa apnaa mafad haii joo uss nayy Jamia wallonn koo dheel dayy rakhee haii warnaa warnaa yehh Jamia walay Akbar Bugtee see Ziadaa powerfull nahee hainnn
                        Muj say Bhes Nahe Kero Waqt ka Intizar Kero

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                        • #74
                          Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

                          Originally posted by filbahere View Post
                          i don't think key yeh Ghazee brotheran ki sazish hay
                          yeh sab kuch government jan boch ker ker rahi hay takey logon ki tawaju chief justice case sey hata ker is taraf lagai jaey

                          i think what Ghazee brotheran is doing is not wrong
                          but how Government is potraying is wrong

                          Government in ko musalsal dashatgard key tor per dehka rahi hay;
                          Government key minister Ijaz ul Haq
                          Gazee Brothers ko " Demagi Mareeze " bar bar keh ker ishtial diala rahey haan

                          akhir bateen key helicopter key pirnay ki kia waja thee
                          government ney us ka order keeon dia

                          takey chup hoey molvi pir bolnay lageen


                          i don't see them wrong but government
                          too janab aap kayy mutabiqq yeh ulmaa ghalt nahee balkehh hakoomat ghalat haiii too agar hakoomat ghalat haii too yehh Jamiaa walay kuun aisayy kaam karr rahay hain jinn sayy islam badnaam hoo rahaa haii jabb tamamm ulmaa kehh rahay hainn kehh yehh islamm kee nifaz kaa sahee tareeqqaa nahee haii too inn Ghazee brotheran koo samjh lenaa chahieyy kehh hakoomat apnay mafad kayy lieyy inn koo usee karr rahee haiii
                          "Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? "

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                          • #75
                            Re: CURRENT: Lal-Masjid My Views

                            Originally posted by filbahere View Post
                            i don't think key yeh Ghazee brotheran ki sazish hay
                            yeh sab kuch government jan boch ker ker rahi hay takey logon ki tawaju chief justice case sey hata ker is taraf lagai jaey

                            i think what Ghazee brotheran is doing is not wrong
                            but how Government is potraying is wrong

                            Government in ko musalsal dashatgard key tor per dehka rahi hay;
                            Government key minister Ijaz ul Haq
                            Gazee Brothers ko " Demagi Mareeze " bar bar keh ker ishtial diala rahey haan

                            akhir bateen key helicopter key pirnay ki kia waja thee
                            government ney us ka order keeon dia

                            takey chup hoey molvi pir bolnay lageen


                            i don't see them wrong but government
                            u say taht Govt is wrong ang jamia walay right hainn to janab agar yehh Jamia wallay right hainn too kuun saray ulmaa Jamia kayy iss act kayy khilaf hainn
                            reply it
                            "Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? "

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