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[*Roomi*]

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[Masood]

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Khurram main Laal Masjid key barey mein to kuchh nahin janta magar siraf Musharraf per comment karoon ga keh Pakistan ko yarghumal aik fard-e-wahid ney nahin bnaa rakha - balkey aik taweel system ney bnaa rakha hai jo keh currupt hai! Musharraf to aik kath'putli hai - jiski jaggah per koi bhi hota to aisa hi karta! Yeh baat uski bilkul drust hai keh Pakistan ko qaid chand hazar khandano ney bnaa rakha hai - aur wohi is system ko chala rahey hain jiska Musharraf 'bawa' hai (jantey hain miti ka bawa).

Jab mulk mein opposition itni badi hai jaisa keh MMA ka dawa hai keh woh hain, to sochney wali baat yeh hai keh "aik masjid key imaam ko kya zaroorat pesh aai keh itna bada qadam uthaey?" - Jawab zahir hai yehi hai keh Qazi Hussain Ahmed ho ya koi bhi doosra mazhabi leader jo siyasat sey wabasta hai, inki dorr siraf aur siraf Hakoomat hai - jabkeh Deen ki fiker aik masjid key imaam ko hai!

[*Roomi*]

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Khurram main Laal Masjid key barey mein to kuchh nahin janta magar siraf Musharraf per comment karoon ga keh Pakistan ko yarghumal aik fard-e-wahid ney nahin bnaa rakha - balkey aik taweel system ney bnaa rakha hai jo keh currupt hai! Musharraf to aik kath'putli hai - jiski jaggah per koi bhi hota to aisa hi karta! Yeh baat uski bilkul drust hai keh Pakistan ko qaid chand hazar khandano ney bnaa rakha hai - aur wohi is system ko chala rahey hain jiska Musharraf 'bawa' hai (jantey hain miti ka bawa).

Jab mulk mein opposition itni badi hai jaisa keh MMA ka dawa hai keh woh hain, to sochney wali baat yeh hai keh "aik masjid key imaam ko kya zaroorat pesh aai keh itna bada qadam uthaey?" - Jawab zahir hai yehi hai keh Qazi Hussain Ahmed ho ya koi bhi doosra mazhabi leader jo siyasat sey wabasta hai, inki dorr siraf aur siraf Hakoomat hai - jabkeh Deen ki fiker aik masjid key imaam ko hai!

Koi shak nahe Agreed with u Totaly

[Shaim]

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Walikum Assalam

Well meri Rai apki Rai se kuch bhi different nahi......:)
jo kuch apne yahaan likha....wahi mujeh lga meri soch ko kise ne alfaaz diye hain
ager ye log ghalt hooty......to inhe ik KHOF hota jo k in mai nahi or yahi baat buhat impressive hai k majority k against ho jany k bawajood wo log datty hoe hain.....i m happy k hamari country mai koi to hai sach ki awaz uthaany wala....ik single step uthaany wala
previous 60 yrs se hum sirf apni rai hi de rahy hain
or practical work = 0
to ALLAH ka shuker hai jis ne unko himmat di is brave step ko uthaany ki:)
is Friday ko najaany kiya hoony wala hai per main itna jaanti hoon koi de ya nahi........ALLAH TAALA sirf SACHAI ka saath deta hai:)

KHUSH RAHYEE
n thx 4 such a wonderful sharing
AGREED Wid U:)

[sarfraz_qamar]

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aap nay joo kuch bhee likhaa haii yehh aap kee point of view see right to hoo saktaa haii but i m not agree u
iss cheeze kee boht saree wajoohat hain jinn kee binaa par i disagree u main inhain one by one bian karoon gaa
1 islam main jabar balikol bhee nahee haiii aap kisee parr apnaa point of view zabardastee lagoo nahee karr saktay aisaa iss liey haii kehh islam koo joor r jabar see nahee phailaa balkeh islam husan e ikhlaq see phalaa haiii
2 molana abdul rasheed aor molana abodol aziz joo kaa Lal masjid kee ulma main see hainn yehh koii islam main harf e aakhir nahee hain (mind mat karnaa meraa maqsad unn kee toheen nahee haii) jabb tamam ulmaa bashamool Muftee Taqee Usmanee kehh this is wrong kunkeh iss see faidaa see ziada nuqsan kaa andesha haii to 2nd molana koo yehh baat samjh lenaa chahiey
3 yehh sabb kuch joo yehh donoon ulmaa kar rahay hain yehh State kee andar eik aor state kee baat haii iss kaa matlab too yehh haii kehh agar aik shaks agar kisee cheeze koo ghalat samjhay too uss ko ikhtiar haii kehh wohh apnee marzee see joo chahay sazaa dayyy ...that wrong concept agar aisaa hotaa to islam main qazeee kaa taswar kia mane rakhtaa haiii
4 kia kisee nayy soochaa haii kehh saree amal see islam kitnaa badnamm hoo rahaa haii aaj saraa maghrabee media iss issue koo layy karr islam koo badnaam karr rahaa hii
5aaj mulk kayy halat boht hee kharab hain kaheen unjanay main yehh ulamaa kisee doshman kaa aalaa karr to nahee banay hoeyyy aaj kee khabar haii kehh Jamis hafsa kee ziada tar talibat kaa talq wazirstan see haii aorr agar khuda na Khawastaa agar hakoomat majboor hoo kar take over kartee haii too kia wazirstan walee iss parr khamoosh rahain gayy ...lazman nahee aorr wohh peace agreement joo pk gov aor Qabaileeion kee darmain howaa khatray main to nahee parr jayee gaaa
6 aaj jiss presedent musharaf kee khilaf hain yehh loog kaheen anjanay main yehh Musharaf kee help to nahee kerr rahay USA ko yehh image dayy karr kehh pakistan main abhee Talbanization mojood haii lihaza Musharaf kee support kee jaiiii
7 hakoomat iss mamlay par abb tak khamoosh kuun haii to zaharee see baat haii kehh Gov kayy iss main mafadat hain jaisaa kehh Chief justice case ...kiaa iss maslaaa koo uthaa kar chief justice case ko pash e posht to nahee dalaa jaa rhaaa
8 in the end yehh jo molanaa abdulrasheed sahib hain inn kee Garee 2004 koo pakree gaiee jiss main see aisaa saman bramad howaa jis ko 14 august main dehshat gardee keyy liey istamal kiaa janaa thaaa
main bhe as a muslim Pk main islam kaa nifaz dekhnaa chahtaa hoo magar aisee nahee jaisee kehh yehh ulmaa chahhh rahay hainn thats wrong way
agar ham islam kaa sahee nifaz chahtay hain to sabb see pehlay hamain khood ko right karnaa hoo gaa agar haam apnay aap koo sahee kar lain to wohh dinn door nahee jabb pakistan main islaic nizam zaroor hoo gaa

[Z.]

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Asalam alaikum The Mask,

well na hi mey gov. key favor mey hun aur na hi jo Maddrasa Hafsah ki taleybaat ya Lal Masjid ka attitude hai us key favor mey hun....

but still I need a bit detail study on this issue :insha:

[Shaim]

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Comment Later @ sarfraz Bhai

[sccorpion81]

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aap nay joo kuch bhee likhaa haii yehh aap kee point of view see right to hoo saktaa haii but i m not agree u
iss cheeze kee boht saree wajoohat hain jinn kee binaa par i disagree u main inhain one by one bian karoon gaa

1 islam main jabar balikol bhee nahee haiii aap kisee parr apnaa point of view zabardastee lagoo nahee karr saktay aisaa iss liey haii kehh islam koo joor r jabar see nahee phailaa balkeh islam husan e ikhlaq see phalaa haiii [/B][/SIZE]

Brother sahi hai k Islam Jabar say nahien phaila laikin aap is ka ghalat matlab lay rahe hain...Yeh log tu Islam Phaila nahien rahay bal k aik Islami Mulk main Islami qanoon maan rahay hain aur aap ko maloom ho ga k Hazrat Umar k dor main aur doosray sahaba k dor main Jahan Jahan per Islam Phail chuka tha wahan per kis had tak Islami Law nafiz tha aur us law ki jo koee khilaf warzi kerta tha tu us ko saza dee jati thee....tu kia aap us ko jabar kahien gay k aik muslim ko yeh kaha jey k tum Islami qanoon ki khilaf warzi mat kero...Aik misal daita hoon.... k aik muslim bachay k liey man baap ko hukam diya gya k is ko 5 saal ki umar main nmaz perhna sikhao aur jab wo 8 ya 9 saal ka ho ajey aurwo nmaz na perhay tu us per sakhti kero aur us ko mar ker bhi nmaz perhaow..tu kia aap yeh kahtay ho k yeh jabar hai nahien yeh Islam ka qanoon hai...auryeh bhi aap ki knowledge main ho ga k koee shakhs agar Islam say phir jata tu us k liey hai k us ko mana kia jaey aur us ko kaha jaey k agar wo wapis Islam qabool nahien kerta tu us ki saza mot hai...aur agar aaj hamare mulk main koee aisee saza suna dee jaey tu her koee yeh bolta hai k Islam Jabar say nahien phaila...Tu arz yeh hai k Yeh jabar nahien hai wo sirf yeh kah rahay hain k Yeh Islami Mulk hai Allah k naam per lia gya hai tu is main Allah ka Qanoon bhi hona chahiey.

2 molana abdul rasheed aor molana abodol aziz joo kaa Lal masjid kee ulma main see hainn yehh koii islam main harf e aakhir nahee hain (mind mat karnaa meraa maqsad unn kee toheen nahee haii) jabb tamam ulmaa bashamool Muftee Taqee Usmanee kehh this is wrong kunkeh iss see faidaa see ziada nuqsan kaa andesha haii to 2nd molana koo yehh baat samjh lenaa chahiey [/SIZE][/B][/SIZE]

Mere bhaee aap jin muftion ki baat ker rahay hain...wo tu sab hukoomat ki lalach main hain ... yeh tu wo log hain jo election say pahlay is naray per vote lay chukay hain k ham islami nizam nafiz kerain gay ... sarhad main in ki hukoomat hai tu kahan hai wo Islami nizam...kya kia hai is logon nay is mulk k liey..siwa apna jhanda lahraney k.

3 yehh sabb kuch joo yehh donoon ulmaa kar rahay hain yehh State kee andar eik aor state kee baat haii iss kaa matlab too yehh haii kehh agar aik shaks agar kisee cheeze koo ghalat samjhay too uss ko ikhtiar haii kehh wohh apnee marzee see joo chahay sazaa dayyy ...that wrong concept agar aisaa hotaa to islam main qazeee kaa taswar kia mane rakhtaa haiii[/SIZE][/B][/SIZE]

:) aap bhi musharaf ki zuban bol rahay hain..pahlay bhi is mulk main yahi ho raha hai.jis ki lathi us ki bhains...jis k pass taqat hai wo jo chahay kerta phiray

4 kia kisee nayy soochaa haii kehh saree amal see islam kitnaa badnamm hoo rahaa haii aaj saraa maghrabee media iss issue koo layy karr islam koo badnaam karr rahaa hii[/SIZE][/B][/SIZE]

hahhahaah Tu is say pahlay wo kon sa hamain acha samjhtay thay jo aaj wo ham ko badnam ker rahay hain..yeh parapoganday tu unhon nay kernay hain na k kahien Muslims ikathay na ho jaien .... ham is dar say k wo ham per keechar uchalain gay ham ko dashat gerd kahien gay apnay aap ko mazboot hi na kerain tu yeh tu koee baat na hoee na..is ka tu matlab yehi hai k jeee sarkar ab Allah say ham nay kia laina hai jo hain aap hi hain Maee Baap

5aaj mulk kayy halat boht hee kharab hain kaheen unjanay main yehh ulamaa kisee doshman kaa aalaa karr to nahee banay hoeyyy aaj kee khabar haii kehh Jamis hafsa kee ziada tar talibat kaa talq wazirstan see haii aorr agar khuda na Khawastaa agar hakoomat majboor hoo kar take over kartee haii too kia wazirstan walee iss parr khamoosh rahain gayy ...lazman nahee aorr wohh peace agreement joo pk gov aor Qabaileeion kee darmain howaa khatray main to nahee parr jayee gaaa[/SIZE][/B][/SIZE]

Ho sakta hai k wazeeristan ki larkian aur larkay hoon laikin yeh ghalat hai k sab wohi hain...wahan per aur ilaqon k students bhi hain

6 aaj jiss presedent musharaf kee khilaf hain yehh loog kaheen anjanay main yehh Musharaf kee help to nahee kerr rahay USA ko yehh image dayy karr kehh pakistan main abhee Talbanization mojood haii lihaza Musharaf kee support kee jaiiii[/SIZE][/B][/SIZE]

Allah Bahatar Janta hai

7 hakoomat iss mamlay par abb tak khamoosh kuun haii to zaharee see baat haii kehh Gov kayy iss main mafadat hain jaisaa kehh Chief justice case ...kiaa iss maslaaa koo uthaa kar chief justice case ko pash e posht to nahee dalaa jaa rhaaa[/SIZE][/B][/SIZE]

Hakoomat kahan khamosh hai

8 in the end yehh jo molanaa abdulrasheed sahib hain inn kee Garee 2004 koo pakree gaiee jiss main see aisaa saman bramad howaa jis ko 14 august main dehshat gardee keyy liey istamal kiaa janaa thaaa[/SIZE]

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tu phir aap seedah treeqa bta dain ... sochtay hain us per bhi

agar ham islam kaa sahee nifaz chahtay hain to sabb see pehlay hamain khood ko right karnaa hoo gaa agar haam apnay aap koo sahee kar lain to wohh dinn door nahee jabb pakistan main islaic nizam zaroor hoo gaa[/SIZE]

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[Mr. Sialkoty]

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Hamara masla na musharaf ka he na jameya hafsa ka he

budniyati aur khoot he hum loogon mein jis waja se mulk nahi chal raha

Aik insaan ager koi acha kaam kerta he to 100 loog us ki taang khainchtay hein. Khuram i am sorry to say ke jo tum ne likha mein us ke haq mein nahi hoon...yeh loog pakistan ko destabalize kerne ke ilawa kuch nahi ker rahay. Dramay baazi ker rahay hein media ka dehaan apni taraf khainch ke waah waah kerwana chahtay hein. Koi bhi mulk is tarah ke halaat mein taraki nahi ker sakta...her mulk kay kaiday kanoon hotay hein, aur kanoon toornay wala chahay musharaf ho ya jameya hafsa ki taalbaat mein un ki favour mein nahi hon.

Yaar dunia ka koi bunda le aao mujay batao ke yeh awam mutmain ho gi...yaar yahan pe koi farishta bhi aa jaye to bhi us per opposition bethay gi...mera khyaal he ke yahan hitler jesa dictator hona chahiye, jo bhi govt. ke khilaaf awaz uthay, chowk mein phansi de usay...duniya ibrat hasil karay, aur yeh rooz rooz ke dramay bund hoon.

Democracy ki koi zaroorat nahi is mulk ko, is mulk ki politics he is mulk ke liye wabal-e-jaan bani hui he...we need dictator not a democrate.

Jahan tak nelofer bukhteyaar ka taaluq he to yaar mein yeh kahon ga ke wo shakal se he prostitute lagti he, kia baat kerte ho us ki...kabi ghoor se dekhna usay, us ki shakal ko, tajziya karna, puri prostitute lagay gi yaar...us ki tension na le

[musaddaq]

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:)

[sccorpion81]

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Ab mere khyal main is khtba k baad kuch rah nahien jata:thmbup:

[musaddaq]

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:)

[Muhammad Khalil]

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lets see..................

[zapk]

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Mazhab hamaray haan bara nazuk muamila raha hai.Iskay naam par hamaray jazbaat itnay ziada bharak uthtay hain kay ham samajhna hi nahin chahtay kay hamain bharkanay waloon kay maqasid kiya hain.aur na hi ham is baat ko samajhtay hain kay muta'alqa mumailay main shariat kay ahkaam kiya hain.
1.Islam main fard per riasat ko bartari di gai hai aur qanoon sazi aur saza-o-jaza waghaira riasat kay daira-e-kaar main aatay hain.Kisi fard-e-wahid ko in muamilaat ko haath main lainay ka haq nahin hai.Agar aisa honay laga to bohat jald har koi haath main danda lay kar ghoomay ga aur apnay mukhalifeen ko khud saza day ga aur aap kisi ko nahin rok sakain gay.
2.Jabir hakim kay agay bhi kalma-e-haq kahnay ka hukm hai,us kay dor main qanoon haath main lainay ka hukm nahin hai.
3.Masajid bananay walonn nay agar ghair qanooni masajid banai hain to unhoon nay khud kounsa islam per amal kiya hai jo woh islam kay thaikaidaar banay huay hain.
4.Yakdam hi saray mulk main talibaan uth kharay huay hain,yeh kis kay isharay per hai.
5.Hakoomat baar baar ailan karti hai kay lal masjid kay khilaf sakht aqdamaat karay gi laikin nahin karti.
Mujhay to lagta hai kay yeh sab Gen musharaf kay isharay per amal kar rahay hain,kiyunkay gen sahib chief justice walay muamilay ko dabana chahtay hain aur saath hi saath ahl-e-maghrab ko taliban ka hawa dikhana chahtay hain taakay USA jo aajkal un say naraz lag raha hai unhain kursi-e-iqtidaar par qubool kar lay.Yeh bhi ho sakta hai kay halaat mazeed kharab kar kay emergency nafiz kar di jaye.
Maira khiyal hai yeh sara drama hai.

[*Roomi*]

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aap nay joo kuch bhee likhaa haii yehh aap kee point of view see right to hoo saktaa haii but i m not agree u
iss cheeze kee boht saree wajoohat hain jinn kee binaa par i disagree u main inhain one by one bian karoon gaa
1 islam main jabar balikol bhee nahee haiii aap kisee parr apnaa point of view zabardastee lagoo nahee karr saktay aisaa iss liey haii kehh islam koo joor r jabar see nahee phailaa balkeh islam husan e ikhlaq see phalaa haiii
2 molana abdul rasheed aor molana abodol aziz joo kaa Lal masjid kee ulma main see hainn yehh koii islam main harf e aakhir nahee hain (mind mat karnaa meraa maqsad unn kee toheen nahee haii) jabb tamam ulmaa bashamool Muftee Taqee Usmanee kehh this is wrong kunkeh iss see faidaa see ziada nuqsan kaa andesha haii to 2nd molana koo yehh baat samjh lenaa chahiey
3 yehh sabb kuch joo yehh donoon ulmaa kar rahay hain yehh State kee andar eik aor state kee baat haii iss kaa matlab too yehh haii kehh agar aik shaks agar kisee cheeze koo ghalat samjhay too uss ko ikhtiar haii kehh wohh apnee marzee see joo chahay sazaa dayyy ...that wrong concept agar aisaa hotaa to islam main qazeee kaa taswar kia mane rakhtaa haiii
4 kia kisee nayy soochaa haii kehh saree amal see islam kitnaa badnamm hoo rahaa haii aaj saraa maghrabee media iss issue koo layy karr islam koo badnaam karr rahaa hii
5aaj mulk kayy halat boht hee kharab hain kaheen unjanay main yehh ulamaa kisee doshman kaa aalaa karr to nahee banay hoeyyy aaj kee khabar haii kehh Jamis hafsa kee ziada tar talibat kaa talq wazirstan see haii aorr agar khuda na Khawastaa agar hakoomat majboor hoo kar take over kartee haii too kia wazirstan walee iss parr khamoosh rahain gayy ...lazman nahee aorr wohh peace agreement joo pk gov aor Qabaileeion kee darmain howaa khatray main to nahee parr jayee gaaa
6 aaj jiss presedent musharaf kee khilaf hain yehh loog kaheen anjanay main yehh Musharaf kee help to nahee kerr rahay USA ko yehh image dayy karr kehh pakistan main abhee Talbanization mojood haii lihaza Musharaf kee support kee jaiiii
7 hakoomat iss mamlay par abb tak khamoosh kuun haii to zaharee see baat haii kehh Gov kayy iss main mafadat hain jaisaa kehh Chief justice case ...kiaa iss maslaaa koo uthaa kar chief justice case ko pash e posht to nahee dalaa jaa rhaaa
8 in the end yehh jo molanaa abdulrasheed sahib hain inn kee Garee 2004 koo pakree gaiee jiss main see aisaa saman bramad howaa jis ko 14 august main dehshat gardee keyy liey istamal kiaa janaa thaaa
main bhe as a muslim Pk main islam kaa nifaz dekhnaa chahtaa hoo magar aisee nahee jaisee kehh yehh ulmaa chahhh rahay hainn thats wrong way
agar ham islam kaa sahee nifaz chahtay hain to sabb see pehlay hamain khood ko right karnaa hoo gaa agar haam apnay aap koo sahee kar lain to wohh dinn door nahee jabb pakistan main islaic nizam zaroor hoo gaa

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