MUBAHISA: Islam aur Ham??

[sarfraz_qamar]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

MERA KEHNAY KA MAQSAD SIRF ITNA HAI KEH
''MUSLIM WOH JO ISLAM KI TALEEMAT PER AMAL KERAY WOH NAHI JO AAJ KAL KHUD KO ROSHAN KHIAL KEHTAY HAIN''
AUR DOOSRA YEH KEH
AAP KO PATA BHEE HAI KEH IN FIRQOON MAIN KIA KIA IKHTILAAF HAIN.
JAB KEH ALAH BHEE AIK RASOOL BHEE AIK QURAAN BHEE AIK.
TOO MASOOD SAHIB IN MAIN SIRF ''FAROOHI'' IKHTALAFAAT HAIN YANI BUHAT MAMOOLI.
WOH AAP KO TABHI PATA CHALAY GA JAB AAP UN KA ILM HASIL KARAIN GAY.JIS KO HUM ASAN ALFAAZ MAIN ''TEHQEEQ'' KEHTYA HAIN.

janab abdulwahab sahib
janab sabb see pehlee baat too yehh haii kehh main aap kee iss baat see agree nahee hoo kehh islam main mojood firqoon main ikhtalaf mamoolee haiii u r wrong completely wrong my brother ...
agar aap aikk masalak kee aalim ke epass jainn wohh kahe gaa kehh hamaraa maslak sahee haii aorrr baqee sabb ghaltt balkehh yahhan takk kehh kafirrr ka fatwaa lagaa dainn gee aap iss cheeze ko kia kahain geee,,
abb aatayy hain topic kee janib too meree khiall main islam eik mukamal zabitaa hiatt haii jiss koo aaj kall kee naam nihad ulmaaa nee boht hee mushkil bana diaa hai.............................

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

janab abdulwahab sahib
janab sabb see pehlee baat too yehh haii kehh main aap kee iss baat see agree nahee hoo kehh islam main mojood firqoon main ikhtalaf mamoolee haiii u r wrong completely wrong my brother ...
agar aap aikk masalak kee aalim ke epass jainn wohh kahe gaa kehh hamaraa maslak sahee haii aorrr baqee sabb ghaltt balkehh yahhan takk kehh kafirrr ka fatwaa lagaa dainn gee aap iss cheeze ko kia kahain geee,,
abb aatayy hain topic kee janib too meree khiall main islam eik mukamal zabitaa hiatt haii jiss koo aaj kall kee naam nihad ulmaaa nee boht hee mushkil bana diaa hai.............................

YEH BAAT TOO HER MASLAK KEHTA HAI KEH
''ISLAM AIK MUKAMIL ZABITA HIYYAT HAI''
,LAKIN jiss koo aaj kall kee naam nihad ulmaaa nee boht hee mushkil bana diaa hai.............................
MAIN NAY POOCHA KEH AAP BATAIN KEH AAP LOG MUJHAIN BATAIN KEH
AAP LOG JO KEHTAY HAIN KEH FIRQA BANDI NAHI HONI CHAHIYAE TOO PHIR AAP KAY LIHAAZ SAY AIK MUSLIM KO KAISA HONA CHAHIYAE?

[Masood]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

YEH BAAT TOO HER MASLAK KEHTA HAI KEH
''ISLAM AIK MUKAMIL ZABITA HIYYAT HAI''
,LAKIN jiss koo aaj kall kee naam nihad ulmaaa nee boht hee mushkil bana diaa hai.............................
MAIN NAY POOCHA KEH AAP BATAIN KEH AAP LOG MUJHAIN BATAIN KEH
AAP LOG JO KEHTAY HAIN KEH FIRQA BANDI NAHI HONI CHAHIYAE TOO PHIR AAP KAY LIHAAZ SAY AIK MUSLIM KO KAISA HONA CHAHIYAE?

:kr: Wahab sahib - gustakhi muaf ab aap aaey hain paharr key neechey. Jo jumla aap ney chhotey font sey likha hai, YEHI HAMARA SAB SEY BADA ALMIYAA HAI - NAAM NEHAAD ULMAA - aur yeh woh ulmaa hain jinhon ney ISLAM Ko mushkil kar diya hai - yehi woh reason hai jiski wajah sey Yellowsky jaisey masoom zehan ki bachi uljhi hui hai aur usney yeh thread lagaya hai - aur yehi woh ULMAA hain jihein aap aur aap key doosrey masalik key log REHNUMA-E-ISLAM kehtey hain - ab kuchh clear huwa aap per keh mujh jaisa insaan ULMA per kya rona rota hai????????

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

:kr: Wahab sahib - gustakhi muaf ab aap aaey hain paharr key neechey. Jo jumla aap ney chhotey font sey likha hai, YEHI HAMARA SAB SEY BADA ALMIYAA HAI - NAAM NEHAAD ULMAA - aur yeh woh ulmaa hain jinhon ney ISLAM Ko mushkil kar diya hai - yehi woh reason hai jiski wajah sey Yellowsky jaisey masoom zehan ki bachi uljhi hui hai aur usney yeh thread lagaya hai - aur yehi woh ULMAA hain jihein aap aur aap key doosrey masalik key log REHNUMA-E-ISLAM kehtey hain - ab kuchh clear huwa aap per keh mujh jaisa insaan ULMA per kya rona rota hai????????

MASOOD SAHIB LAGTA HAI AAP KO NAZAR NAHI AYA
''MAIN NAY JO BAAT
QOMAAS MAIN LIKHI HAI YANI
''ISLAM AIK MUKAMIL ZABITA HIYYAT HAI''
YEH BAAT HER MASLAK KEHTA HAI AUR RAHI WOH BAAT JO AAP NAY POINT OUT KI YANI
''LAKIN jiss koo aaj kall kee naam nihad ulmaaa nee boht hee mushkil bana diaa hai.............................
TOO MASOOD SAHIB MAIN NAY YEH BAAT MR SARFARAZ KI COPY KI HAI AUR UN SAY ISI BAT PER AIK SAWAAL POOCHA HAI YANI
''AP LOG KEHTYA HAIN KEH FIRQA BANDI NAHI HONI CHAHIYAE TOO PHIR AAP KI NAZAR MAIN MUSLIM KO KAISA HONA CHAHIYAE''?

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Ab Masood Sahib Aap Mujhay Batain Keh
''muslim Ko Kaisa Hon Achahiyae''?
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[Masood]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Ab Masood Sahib Aap Mujhay Batain Keh
''muslim Ko Kaisa Hon Achahiyae''?
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Chalein main iska jawab bhi tafseel sey dey doon ga - magar filhaal nahin.... Lekin aap sey siraf itni apeal hai keh ISLAM KO PACHEEDAH mat kijiye!!!

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Chalein main iska jawab bhi tafseel sey dey doon ga - magar filhaal nahin.... Lekin aap sey siraf itni apeal hai keh ISLAM KO PACHEEDAH mat kijiye!!!

CHALAIN MASOOD SAHIB MAIN AAP KO AIK BAAT BATATA HON JO KEH BILKUL SACH HAI.
IS DEEN YANI ISLAM MAIN LAZMI AUR LAZMI FIRQA BANDI HO GI.AUR IS KO KOI NAHI ROK SACTA .
KION KEH HAZOOR MUHAMMAD(PBUH) NAY FERMAYA KEH
''MERI UMMAT MAIN 72 FIRQAY HON GAY AUR UN MAIN SAY AIK HAQ PER HO GA''
AUR HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (PBUH) KI KAHI HUI HER BAAT PURI HO GAI.
BAS YAHI MAIN KEHNA CHAHTA HON.
AUR AIK BAAT AUR KEH
HUM SAB KO SIRF APNA KALMA MAZBOOT KERNA HAI.
AUR AIKM BAAT BILKUL FRIENDLY PLZ
MAIN NAY ISLAM KO KAHAN PER PACHEEDA KER DIYA HAI?

[Masood]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

CHALAIN MASOOD SAHIB MAIN AAP KO AIK BAAT BATATA HON JO KEH BILKUL SACH HAI.
IS DEEN YANI ISLAM MAIN LAZMI AUR LAZMI FIRQA BANDI HO GI.AUR IS KO KOI NAHI ROK SACTA .
KION KEH HAZOOR MUHAMMAD(PBUH) NAY FERMAYA KEH
''MERI UMMAT MAIN 72 FIRQAY HON GAY AUR UN MAIN SAY AIK HAQ PER HO GA''
AUR HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (PBUH) KI KAHI HUI HER BAAT PURI HO GAI.
BAS YAHI MAIN KEHNA CHAHTA HON.
AUR AIK BAAT AUR KEH
HUM SAB KO SIRF APNA KALMA MAZBOOT KERNA HAI.
AUR AIKM BAAT BILKUL FRIENDLY PLZ
MAIN NAY ISLAM KO KAHAN PER PACHEEDA KER DIYA HAI?

Jab yehi baat Yellowsky likhti hain keh islam ko 1000 tukron mein bant diya hai to aap yeh reply kartey hain: ''KIA AAP NAY YEH BAAT BEGHAIR TASDEEQ KIYAE NAHI KI HAI''? - ab aap khud btaein keh yeh ehsan kiya hai Ulma ney Islam per? Nabi Kareem SAW ki baat 100 feesad sach hai yeh har musalman janta hai to phir ham kyun yeh dhong rachatey hain keh Islam aik hai? Islam aik nahin balkeh 72 hisson mein bata huwa hai aur har hissah apney aap ko haq per samajhta hai aur yeh ehsan ham per Ulmaa ney kiya hai. Ham apney bachon ko btatey hain keh ham musalman aik hain jabkeh haqeeqat bohat bhiyanak hai - kya aap mujhey btaa saktey hain keh aik masoom zehan ka musalman kidher jaey??

Aap GHALAT kehtey hain keh hamein apna kalma buland karna hai - yani aap key mutabiq har firqa apna apna bol bala karey agar yehi mafhoom hai aap ki baat ka to yeh GUMRAHI hai aur agar kalma sey murad aap ki AIK ALLAH AIK NABI AIK QURAN AIK KA'ABA hai to iskey liye DIMAGH KO ROSHAN karney ki zaroorat hai - firqaat ko mitaney ki zaroorat hai - aik COMMON PLATFORM dhoondney ki zaroorat hai jis per sab jama ho sakein!!! Kitna ulmaa apni zidd chhorr saktey hain????

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Jab yehi baat Yellowsky likhti hain keh islam ko 1000 tukron mein bant diya hai to aap yeh reply kartey hain: ''KIA AAP NAY YEH BAAT BEGHAIR TASDEEQ KIYAE NAHI KI HAI''? - ab aap khud btaein keh yeh ehsan kiya hai Ulma ney Islam per? Nabi Kareem SAW ki baat 100 feesad sach hai yeh har musalman janta hai to phir ham kyun yeh dhong rachatey hain keh Islam aik hai? Islam aik nahin balkeh 72 hisson mein bata huwa hai aur har hissah apney aap ko haq per samajhta hai aur yeh ehsan ham per Ulmaa ney kiya hai. Ham apney bachon ko btatey hain keh ham musalman aik hain jabkeh haqeeqat bohat bhiyanak hai - kya aap mujhey btaa saktey hain keh aik masoom zehan ka musalman kidher jaey??

Aap GHALAT kehtey hain keh hamein apna kalma buland karna hai - yani aap key mutabiq har firqa apna apna bol bala karey agar yehi mafhoom hai aap ki baat ka to yeh GUMRAHI hai aur agar kalma sey murad aap ki AIK ALLAH AIK NABI AIK QURAN AIK KA'ABA hai to iskey liye DIMAGH KO ROSHAN karney ki zaroorat hai - firqaat ko mitaney ki zaroorat hai - aik COMMON PLATFORM dhoondney ki zaroorat hai jis per sab jama ho sakein!!! Kitna ulmaa apni zidd chhorr saktey hain????

MASOOD SAHIB KALMAY KAY LIYAE ROSHAN KHIALI ZAROORI HAI LAKIN ISLAM KAY MUTABIK.
YEH NAHI KEH HUM ROSHAN KHIALI MAIN APNI MUSLIM AORTOON SAY TV YA DIFFERENT CHANNELS PER ''DANCE'' KARWAIN.YA UN KO PAGALOON KI TERHAN ''RACE'' MAIN BAGHAIN.
BALKEH HUM KO INHAIN ILM KI TARAF LAY JANA HAI.
LAKIN AAJ KAY ROSHAN KHIAL HAZRAAT YEH NAHI KERTAY.WOH AAJ
BETI KO BAAP KAY,BAHAN KO BHI KAY,AUR MAAN KO BAITAY SAY JUDA KER RAHAY HAIN.JIS SAY MUASHRAH TABAHI KI TARAF JAY GA.

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Aur Jab Aap Ko Pata Hai Keh
''firqay Lazmi Banain Gay Too Phir Hum Kaisay Aik Plateform Per Akhatay Ho Sactay Hain?
Jaisay Amal Uth Chuka Hai Isi Terhan ''itebaar'' Uth Chuka Hai/

[Masood]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

MASOOD SAHIB KALMAY KAY LIYAE ROSHAN KHIALI ZAROORI HAI LAKIN ISLAM KAY MUTABIK.
YEH NAHI KEH HUM ROSHAN KHIALI MAIN APNI MUSLIM AORTOON SAY TV YA DIFFERENT CHANNELS PER ''DANCE'' KARWAIN.YA UN KO PAGALOON KI TERHAN ''RACE'' MAIN BAGHAIN.
BALKEH HUM KO INHAIN ILM KI TARAF LAY JANA HAI.
LAKIN AAJ KAY ROSHAN KHIAL HAZRAAT YEH NAHI KERTAY.WOH AAJ
BETI KO BAAP KAY,BAHAN KO BHI KAY,AUR MAAN KO BAITAY SAY JUDA KER RAHAY HAIN.JIS SAY MUASHRAH TABAHI KI TARAF JAY GA.

KHUDA key liye Wahab baton ko samajhney ki koshish karo aur aagey peechey ki batein madgham mat karo.... Yahan per jo bhi batein aap ney ki hain unka koi jawaz nahin banta siwaey is key keh aap asal matan sey hatna chahtey hain. (batein jo red mein hai is thread mein FAZOOL hain).

Janab sab sey pehley AAP ko roshan khiyali ka mafhoom samjhna hai. Main us roshan khiyali ka sakht mukhalif hoon jiska parchar aaj kal kiya jaa raha hai - main us KUND-ZEHNI ka bhi mukhalif hoon jo Taalban mein thi - Merey nazdeek Roshan Khiyali aik BALANCE hai jissey talash karna hai aur woh siraf usi waqt ho sakta hai jab aap ISLAM ki ROOH ko samjhein gey - aur ISLAM KI ROOH KO NAAM NEHAAD ULMAA NAHIN SAMAJH sakey - aur sab sey bada qasoor un ka yehi hai keh woh BALANCE talash karney mein nakaam rahey hain - har aalim apney apney firqey mein INTIHAA PASAND hai... aur intihaa-pasandi hamesha gumrahi ki taraf ley jati hai....

[Z.]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Aur Jab Aap Ko Pata Hai Keh
''firqay Lazmi Banain Gay Too Phir Hum Kaisay Aik Plateform Per Akhatay Ho Sactay Hain?
Jaisay Amal Uth Chuka Hai Isi Terhan ''itebaar'' Uth Chuka Hai/

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

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KHUDA key liye Wahab baton ko samajhney ki koshish karo aur aagey peechey ki batein madgham mat karo.... Yahan per jo bhi batein aap ney ki hain unka koi jawaz nahin banta siwaey is key keh aap asal matan sey hatna chahtey hain. (batein jo red mein hai is thread mein FAZOOL hain).

Janab sab sey pehley AAP ko roshan khiyali ka mafhoom samjhna hai. Main us roshan khiyali ka sakht mukhalif hoon jiska parchar aaj kal kiya jaa raha hai - main us KUND-ZEHNI ka bhi mukhalif hoon jo Taalban mein thi - Merey nazdeek Roshan Khiyali aik BALANCE hai jissey talash karna hai aur woh siraf usi waqt ho sakta hai jab aap ISLAM ki ROOH ko samjhein gey - aur ISLAM KI ROOH KO NAAM NEHAAD ULMAA NAHIN SAMAJH sakey - aur sab sey bada qasoor un ka yehi hai keh woh BALANCE talash karney mein nakaam rahey hain - har aalim apney apney firqey mein INTIHAA PASAND hai... aur intihaa-pasandi hamesha gumrahi ki taraf ley jati hai....

MASOOD BHI AAP MUJHAY BATAIN KEH
'' KIA HAMARAY MUASHRAY MAIN ROSHAN KHIALI KAY NAM PER YEH NAHI HO RAHA''
MUSHARAAF KEHTA HAI KEH ROSHAN KHIALI KEH LIYAE YEH ZAROORI HAI YANI MARATHAN RACE AUR WOH BHEE MAKHLOOT''
MUJHAY MALOOM HAI ROSHAN KHIALI KA MEAN KIA HAI.LAKIN HAMARAY HUKMARAN US ROSHAN KHIALI KO NAHI MANTAY JIS KO AAP AUR MAIN KEH RAHAY HAIN.
ROSHAN KHIALI HAI SIRF ILAM MAIN
NAHI MILNI KISI KO YEH ANGRAIZ KAY DERBAR MAIN.

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

:thmbup: SAHI KAHA BALKEH BUHAT SAHI KAHA.

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Lakin Meri Behna
Hum Kab Akhatay Hon Gay?