MUBAHISA: Islam aur Ham??

[Z.]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

MERI BAHAN MERI IN BATOON KO AAP NAY AS A TANQED NAHI LAINA PLZ
AAP ALLAH KO HAZIR NAZIR JAN KER YEH BATAIN KEH
''KIA AAP NAY YEH BAAT BEGHAIR TASDEEQ KIYAE NAHI KI HAI''?
AUR AIK BAAT AUR KEH
ULMAH HUM KO SAB KUCH BATATAY HAIN NAMZ KION PERHI JATI HAI YEH BHEE AUR ISLAM KI BUNYAAD BHEE AUR QURAN KA TERJAMAH BHEE.
SAB SAY PEHLAY TOO YEH BAAT MAIN AAP KO BATA DON KEH HUM LOG TOO ''ULMAH'' KAY PAAS JANAY KI ZEHMAT HE GAWARA NAHI KERTAY,HUM MAIN MAJOOD ROSHAN KHIAL LOG ''TV'' PER AUR DIFFERENT CHANNELS PER BAITH KER YEH RATTI RATTAI BAAT KEH DAITAY HAIN KEH
''YEH SAB ULMAH AUR MOLVION KA QASOOR HAI''
MAIN AAP LOGON SAY POOCHTA HON KEH AGER YEH MOLVION AUR ULMAH KA QASOOR HAI TOO AAP LOG IN KAY PEECHAY NAMAZ KION PERHTAY HAIN?
AUR DOOSRI BAAT MERI BAHAN YAAD RAKHO KEH
''TUM ULMAH KAY BARAY MAIN NAHI JANTI KEH ULMAH KI QADAR KIA HAI''?
YEHI ULMMAH HAIN JINHON NAY SIRF AIK LAFAZ ''ALLAH'' KI TASHREEH PER 10000 SAY ZAID BOOKS LIKH DEE HAIN.AUR IS KAY MUKABLAY MAIN TUM MUJHAY BATAO KEH ALLAH KA MATLAB KIA HAI?
CHALOO MUJHAY NA BATAO BELKEH KHUD KO BATA LO KIA BATA SAKOO GEE?
AUR INHI ULMAA KI QADAR KERTAY HUAY ALLAH KAY RASOOL HAZRAT MUHAMMAD(PBUH) NAY FERMAYA HAI KEH
''JO ALIM KI QADR KERTA HAI WOH MERI QADR KERTA HAI''
PHIR FERMAYA
''ULMMAH ANBIYYAH KAY WARAS HAIN''
PHIR FERMAYA
''ALIM KI FAZEELAT ABID PER AISI HAI JAISA KEH CHODHAVIN RAAT KI CHANDANI KO SARAY SATAROON PER'''
ABHI TOO MAIN SIRF YEHI BAYAN KER RAHA HON LAKIN ULMAAH KI QADR AAP KI SOOCH SAY BHEE BUHAT OONCHI HAI.
AAP JO KEH RAHI HAIN KEH ULLMAH NAY ISLAM KAY TUKRAY KER DIYAE HAIN .AAP MUJHAY KISI AIK AISAY ALIM KA NAM BATAIN JIS NAY ISLAM KA KOI TUKRA KIYA HUA HO.
CHALAIN YEH BHEE CHOR DAIN MUJHAY KISI AIK AISAY ALIM KA NAM BATA DAIN JIS KAY PAAS AAP LOGON NAY JANA GUWARA KIA HAI?

Respected bro. in Islam

Allah T'ala bakhoobi waqif hein meyri soch sey ....meyri saari intentions sey...Alhumdulillah

Ye thread mey ney yahan Ulma pey tanqeed kerney key liye nahi lagaya hai
mey un sab logon ki dil sey Qadr kerti hun jo Islam as it is aagey phonchatey hein key jaisey Islam ka haq hai

Sirf meyra sawal ye hai

jab aap sey ye kaha jaye key Islam kya hai to aap us ka jawab kaisey do gey?

[Masood]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

YEHI ULMMAH HAIN JINHON NAY SIRF AIK LAFAZ ''ALLAH'' KI TASHREEH PER 10000 SAY ZAID BOOKS LIKH DEE HAIN.

Kya hi achha hota keh 10000 tashreehat karney ki bajey siraf AIK ALLAH ko duniya mein apney QOL-O-FAIL sey roshnaas karwatey!!!!

Merey nazdeek ALLAH ko 10000 tashreehat sey nahin siraf insaan apney aemalon sey pehchaan sakta hai!!!

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Kya hi achha hota keh 10000 tashreehat karney ki bajey siraf AIK ALLAH ko duniya mein apney QOL-O-FAIL sey roshnaas karwatey!!!!

Merey nazdeek ALLAH ko 10000 tashreehat sey nahin siraf insaan apney aemalon sey pehchaan sakta hai!!!

ager aap un main say kisi aik kitaab ko bhee perhna gawara ker lain too aap ko pata chal jay ga keh aap ki haqeeqat kia hai aur allah ki haqeqat kia hai.
beshak insaan apnay amaal say alah ko pechan sacta hai lakin amaal bhee ilam kay beghair nahi sahi ho sactay.

[Masood]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

ager aap un main say kisi aik kitaab ko bhee perhna gawara ker lain too aap ko pata chal jay ga keh aap ki haqeeqat kia hai aur allah ki haqeqat kia hai.
beshak insaan apnay amaal say alah ko pechan sacta hai lakin amaal bhee ilam kay beghair nahi sahi ho sactay.

Hamarey haan kitabein likhney waley ka naam, uskey maslak pehley poochha jata hai kitab ko baad mein parha jata hai aur yeh baat bhi ulmaa ney hi seekhaii hai....


Jab insaan ka ander saaf na ho to woh laakh kitabein parh ley woh kisi ROSHAN KHIYALI ko nahin pohanch sakta - aur ALLAH ko pehchaneny key liye DIMAGH KO ROSHAN karney ki zaroorat hoti hai

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Respected bro. in Islam

Allah T'ala bakhoobi waqif hein meyri soch sey ....meyri saari intentions sey...Alhumdulillah

Ye thread mey ney yahan Ulma pey tanqeed kerney key liye nahi lagaya hai
mey un sab logon ki dil sey Qadr kerti hun jo Islam as it is aagey phonchatey hein key jaisey Islam ka haq hai

Sirf meyra sawal ye hai

phir meri bahan aap nay ulma ko islaam ka tukray kernay wala kion kaha?
meri bahan mujhay jaan ker buhat khushi hui keh aap ulma ki qadr kerti ho.

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Hamarey haan kitabein likhney waley ka naam, uskey maslak pehley poochha jata hai kitab ko baad mein parha jata hai aur yeh baat bhi ulmaa ney hi seekhaii hai....


Jab insaan ka ander saaf na ho to woh laakh kitabein parh ley woh kisi ROSHAN KHIYALI ko nahin pohanch sakta - aur ALLAH ko pehchaneny key liye DIMAGH KO ROSHAN karney ki zaroorat hoti hai

masood sahib
allah aik hai
ZIADA NAHI KEH US KI TAREEF MAIN ULMMAH APAS MAIN LAR PARAIN
HUM LOG BISTER SAY UTHNA HEE NAHI CHAHTAY NAHI TOO HAMARAY PAAS KERNAY KAY LIYAE BYHAT KUCH HAI

[Masood]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

masood sahib
allah aik hai
ZIADA NAHI KEH US KI TAREEF MAIN ULMMAH APAS MAIN LAR PARAIN
HUM LOG BISTER SAY UTHNA HEE NAHI CHAHTAY NAHI TOO HAMARAY PAAS KERNAY KAY LIYAE BYHAT KUCH HAI

To phir mujhey yeh baat btaa saktey hain keh aap hi key kuchh musalman bhai hain jo kehtey hain Allah siraf aasmano per mojood hai aur woh duniya mein nahin aata - yeh aqeedah kis ney mash'hoor kiya hai???

[Z.]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

phir meri bahan aap nay ulma ko islaam ka tukray kernay wala kion kaha?
meri bahan mujhay jaan ker buhat khushi hui keh aap ulma ki qadr kerti ho.

kisi aik line sey jissey aap ko perh ker ye laga ho key mey ney aeysa kaha?

aur aap ney meyra sawal ka jawab nahi diya?

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Hamarey haan kitabein likhney waley ka naam, uskey maslak pehley poochha jata hai kitab ko baad mein parha jata hai aur yeh baat bhi ulmaa ney hi seekhaii hai....


Jab insaan ka ander saaf na ho to woh laakh kitabein parh ley woh kisi ROSHAN KHIYALI ko nahin pohanch sakta - aur ALLAH ko pehchaneny key liye DIMAGH KO ROSHAN karney ki zaroorat hoti hai

MASOOD SAHIB
DAMAGH ILM SAY ROSHAN HOTA HAI AUR ILM ULMA SAY HASIL HOTA HAI.YA UN KI LIKHI GAI KITABOON SAY

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

To phir mujhey yeh baat btaa saktey hain keh aap hi key kuchh musalman bhai hain jo kehtey hain Allah siraf aasmano per mojood hai aur woh duniya mein nahin aata - yeh aqeedah kis ney mash'hoor kiya hai???

KIA AAP KO NAHI PATA KEH ALLAH SHEHRAG SAY BHEE ZIADA KAREEB HAI
AIK MUSLIM AISA NAHI KEH SACTA .
YAAD RAHAY KEH NAM KAY MUSLIM AUR ASAL MUSLIM MAIN BUHAT FARAQ HOTA HAI.

[Masood]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

MASOOD SAHIB
DAMAGH ILM SAY ROSHAN HOTA HAI AUR ILM ULMA SAY HASIL HOTA HAI.YA UN KI LIKHI GAI KITABOON SAY

Merey bhai aaj kal jo ILM hai woh ILM nahin MALOOMAT hai - ILM kab ka khatam ho chuka hai - Nabi Kareem SAW ki aik pasheengoi yeh bhi thi keh qurb-e-qayamat ILM aam ho jaey ga magar amal kam - main ney aik doosrey thread mein likha tha shayid aap ney nahin dekh:

ilm be'amal jahalat hai aur amal be'ilm andherey mein thokrein khana hai

Ham log JAHALAT mein doobtey jaa rahey hain aur dawa kartey hain keh HAMARA ilm sahih hai!!! Hamarey paas SIRAF MALOOMAT KA ZAKHEERA HAI ILM NAHIN!!!

[Masood]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

KIA AAP KO NAHI PATA KEH ALLAH SHEHRAG SAY BHEE ZIADA KAREEB HAI
AIK MUSLIM AISA NAHI KEH SACTA .
YAAD RAHAY KEH NAM KAY MUSLIM AUR ASAL MUSLIM MAIN BUHAT FARAQ HOTA HAI.

:kr: :kr: :kr: :kr: :kr: :kr: YEHI TO WOH SAB SEY BADI beemari hai ham musalmano mein keh ham ney ASAL aur NAQAL rakhey huwey hain aur hamein to yeh bhi nahin patah keh ASAL KYA HAI AUR NAQAL KYA HAI - kyun keh har FIRQA doosrey FIRQEY ko NAQAL kehta hai - Please Please ISLAM PER REHAM KIJIYE!!!! ISLAM KO APNEY FIRQON SEY BACHAIYEY.

aur jahan tak meri baat hai to yeh thread parhiyey:
http://www.pegham.com/showthread.php?t=10280

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

:kr: :kr: :kr: :kr: :kr: :kr: YEHI TO WOH SAB SEY BADI beemari hai ham musalmano mein keh ham ney ASAL aur NAQAL rakhey huwey hain aur hamein to yeh bhi nahin patah keh ASAL KYA HAI AUR NAQAL KYA HAI - kyun keh har FIRQA doosrey FIRQEY ko NAQAL kehta hai - Please Please ISLAM PER REHAM KIJIYE!!!! ISLAM KO APNEY FIRQON SEY BACHAIYEY.

aur jahan tak meri baat hai to yeh thread parhiyey:
http://www.pegham.com/showthread.php?t=10280

MERA KEHNAY KA MAQSAD SIRF ITNA HAI KEH
''MUSLIM WOH JO ISLAM KI TALEEMAT PER AMAL KERAY WOH NAHI JO AAJ KAL KHUD KO ROSHAN KHIAL KEHTAY HAIN''
AUR DOOSRA YEH KEH
AAP KO PATA BHEE HAI KEH IN FIRQOON MAIN KIA KIA IKHTILAAF HAIN.
JAB KEH ALAH BHEE AIK RASOOL BHEE AIK QURAAN BHEE AIK.
TOO MASOOD SAHIB IN MAIN SIRF ''FAROOHI'' IKHTALAFAAT HAIN YANI BUHAT MAMOOLI.
WOH AAP KO TABHI PATA CHALAY GA JAB AAP UN KA ILM HASIL KARAIN GAY.JIS KO HUM ASAN ALFAAZ MAIN ''TEHQEEQ'' KEHTYA HAIN.

[Masood]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

MERA KEHNAY KA MAQSAD SIRF ITNA HAI KEH
''MUSLIM WOH JO ISLAM KI TALEEMAT PER AMAL KERAY WOH NAHI JO AAJ KAL KHUD KO ROSHAN KHIAL KEHTAY HAIN''
AUR DOOSRA YEH KEH
AAP KO PATA BHEE HAI KEH IN FIRQOON MAIN KIA KIA IKHTILAAF HAIN.
JAB KEH ALAH BHEE AIK RASOOL BHEE AIK QURAAN BHEE AIK.
TOO MASOOD SAHIB IN MAIN SIRF ''FAROOHI'' IKHTALAFAAT HAIN YANI BUHAT MAMOOLI.
WOH AAP KO TABHI PATA CHALAY GA JAB AAP UN KA ILM HASIL KARAIN GAY.JIS KO HUM ASAN ALFAAZ MAIN ''TEHQEEQ'' KEHTYA HAIN.

Aur yeh mamooli sa farq kaafi hai aik doosrey per KAAFIR tak ka fatwaa laganey ka???????????????????????? (ab yeh mat kahiyey ga keh firqon ney aapis mein aik doosrey ko kaafir nahin kaha). Aur shayid aap ney mera thread nahin parha KAHAN SEY SHURU KAROON aik baar ussey parh lijiye ho sakta hai keh aap ko kuchh aur sochney per majboor kar dey....

[abdulwahab]

Re: Islam aur Ham??

Aur yeh mamooli sa farq kaafi hai aik doosrey per KAAFIR tak ka fatwaa laganey ka???????????????????????? (ab yeh mat kahiyey ga keh firqon ney aapis mein aik doosrey ko kaafir nahin kaha). Aur shayid aap ney mera thread nahin parha KAHAN SEY SHURU KAROON aik baar ussey parh lijiye ho sakta hai keh aap ko kuchh aur sochney per majboor kar dey....

CHALAIN MASOOD BHI AAP FIRQA BANDI KAY KHILAAF HAI NA TOO AAP MUJHAY BATAIN KEH
''AIK MUSLIM KO KAISA HONA CHAHIYAE?'