Eesaal-e-Sawaab aur Quran Khuwani

[shikary]

Assalam-o-Alaikum!!!

[shikary]

Eesaal-e-Sawaab aur Quran Khuwani

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[shikary]

Eesaal-e-Sawaab aur Quran Khuwani

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[shikary]

Eesaal-e-Sawaab aur Quran Khuwani

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[tauseeftariq]

Re: Eesaal-e-Sawaab aur Quran Khuwani

****app nain sirf ONE SIDE ka point of view batya hai *******

1.Isaal e sawab per bhut se Ahdees hain
jo ke shid app deknaa nahin "cahatey"

ek sabhi (r.t.a) ke walada ka inteqal ho giya tu piyarey nabi (s.a.w) ke khidmat main araz kiya key main un ke liye kiya karon tu app (s.a.w) nain farmaya ke kowan kudwao ,, yani kawin ka pani log piyan gey aur us ka swab sahabi (r,t,a) ke walda ko ho ga.. aur koain per ya bhi lekha giaya ke yeh falaan sabhi ke walda ke liye hai..
(yeh hadees ka mufhoom hai)
batin agher mernain ke baad sawab nahin phonchty tu phir yeh sab kis liye thaa??

aur aisi ek 2 nahin kai Ahdees hain jo ke aisal e sawab ko sabit kerti hain...
per afssos woh app nain paish nahin ke..

app bhi janty hain ke yeh Aqail aur Maslik ka iktilaaf hai.. main as per app ko 10 page ka reply lek saktaa hoon per app nain manan he nahin tu fida kiya..
please as tarah ke iktilafi thread post na kiya kerin agher app kerin ge tu hum bhi app ko "Jawab" dey sakty hain........

[shikary]

Re: Eesaal-e-Sawaab aur Quran Khuwani

['SamRazi']

Re: Eesaal-e-Sawaab aur Quran Khuwani

Assalam-O-Alaikum "Shikary" aur "Tauseef",

Shikary' mei ne aap ka mamoon parha, :masha buhut tafseel se likha hai aap ne :jazak: samjh bhi aaya, beshak aap ne bilkul sahi kaha, ke Quran khwani, Soyam, daswan aur chota jo rasmein aaj ban chuki hain, wo bidat hain in ka islam mei koi saboot nahi.

Magar dosri tarah Tauseef ki baat bhi sahi hai, ager wo yeh kehna chah rahey hain ke kisi ki wafat ke baad ousey eesal-e-sawab ek liyeh Quran khuwani ki jayeh, Matlab eyh nahi ke rasmi torh per lofo rishtedaron ko bula ker, dikhawa ker kai Quran khuwani ki jayeh, aur phir sab ke samney sadqa khairat ki jayeh, yeh sab dikhawey mei aa jata ahi, aur dikhawey ki kisi chiz ka koi sawab jab kerne waley ko nahi milta to jis ke liyeh kiya ja raha hai ousey kaisey pohanch sakta hai. kisi ghar mei ager kisi bazurq yaan kisi bhi fard ki fautgi ho jayeh to ghar ke afrad eesal-e-sawab ke liyeh jab chahein Quran khwani ker saktey ahin, zarori nahi ek majlis mei baith ker karein, infiradi torr eesal-e-sawab ek liyeh quran khwani kerna, khudh ki raah mei sadqa kerne se oun ki maghfirat ke liyeh duwa kerne se :insha: khuda zaror qabool karey ga ....... magar ghair zarori bidaton ki perwi se perhaiz kerni chahiyeh.

[shikary]

Re: Eesaal-e-Sawaab aur Quran Khuwani

[aabi2cool]

Re: Eesaal-e-Sawaab aur Quran Khuwani

aslamo alykum janbab shakir sahib aap jab se PG per aay hain ,aap ny seway ikhtilafi mozu k aur koi post yahaan nheen lagai aur oper aap ka dawa hy k aap islah pasand aadmi hain aur behas o mubahisa aap ko pasaand bhi naheen ,likin moaf kijiye g aap k qolo fail main tazad hy agar aap waqe hi behas wegera ko pasand naheen karty to aap kabhi bhi aysy mozuaat ka intikhaab na karty jo dosry logon ko aap k asth behas par majboor kareen.meri pehly to aap se guzarish k aap apni issnaam nehaad islah ko apny tak mehdood rakheen jis ka libada aor kar aap ummat main mazeed takhreeb kari ka baes ban raheen hain .baqi rhi aap ki sulah joeyat ki baat to us ka raaz aap ki guzashta tamam posts ny fash kar diya hy. main ny pehly bhi aap ki post jo aap ny shri waseela aur bidat waseela k bayn main lagai thi ka tafseeli jawab likh kar laga diya hy new thred waseela aur rade shubhat k unwan se .magar aap ny aik naya mahaz khool diya hy.baqi main aik baar phir aap se guzarish karoon ga k is fouram main aap ikhtilafi mozuaat se par haiz kareen warna yon na ho k aap ki ilmayat k dhool ka pool hameen beech bazar kholna pary.......?
baqi raha aap ka aaj ka mozu jiss par hashia aarai farmaty huy aap ny esaly sawab ki pakeeza mahafil ko kafroon yani hidu pandatoon k ashlok wagera se tashbeeh de hy jiss se aap ki suleh kuliyat ka bhanda beech chorhy phot ta hua dekhai deta hy. aik taraf aap in tamam mahfil k dandy meendy kafroon k sath mila dety hain aur dosri taraf aap ko ummat main islah ka bhi israr hy . kaya ummat main isah ka yehi tareka kar hy jo aap ny apnaya hy? akhir main baat ko khatam karty huy k aa ny kaha hy k kisi bhi saheeh hadeeth se ye sabit nheen k quran par kar murdon ko esaly swaab kiya jasakta hy aur ye k sawab ka transfar karna mumkin hi naheen ka jawab inshALLAH arz karoon ga jald hi. LIKIN HAYRAT HY K DROGH GO HAFZA NABASHAD. ki misal hy aap ki zaat k sadq aur khyraat ko swaab milna ap bhi maan rahy hain aur dosri taraf keh rahain k swab ka transfer hona mumkin hi naheen wahaan ye na mumkin kis ny mumkin bana de jo aap ka jawab wohi hamra ....w/slaam aabi

[tauseeftariq]

Re: Eesaal-e-Sawaab aur Quran Khuwani

janab sahkir sahib..

miss magant ke reply main bhi app nain yeh lekhaa hai
key "sawab transfer" nahin ho sakta... "
aur yeh baat app nain kai bar kahi hai
as liye main nain yah hadiees paish ke jasy shid app samjh nahin sakey .. dekhin
1.kanwan sahbi nain apni maan ke inteqal ke baad khudwaya........ yani ke kawn khudwanin ka amal sahabhi ka thaa lehzayeh sirf un ke liye sadkey jarya hona chahya thaa (app ke muabik)

tu phir unhoon nain as ka sawab apni maan ko kasy transer kiya?????????????????
as baat ka jawab dein mujh ko?
phir ek baat clear ho gi ke sawab transfer hota hai ya nahin....?

2nd baat quran khwani per ahadees tu woh abbicol ke post main app ko mil jain gi asi section main un
ke post hai... zaroor padhiya ga

3rd baat app baar baar quran khwani ko badat kehty hain... ghoor farmye as per shid app "miyat ke aisal sawab per kuran khwani ko badat" kehna chathy hain
na key her quran khwani yani her quran padhnin ko aisa nahin kehna chaty hain ... lehaza pora jumla lekha
kerin.. ta key nain qareen ke zahin na ultjin

4.Aur BAIDAT ke behas bhut lambi hai...
baidat ke ek kism "badate hasna " hai yani achi badit
jasy ke quran per araab lagwana..
jo na piyar nabi(s.a.w) na farmya na khulf e rashiden nain...
bulky yeh us ke baad howa..
tu app kiya khein gey us ko.... jiz ya najiz... kiya kisi hadess main quran per airaab langny ya kitabi sorat main juma kernin ka hukum hai ... agher hai
tu paish kerin.................
"bary mehrbani SAHI HADEES sey us ka saboot den"
jawab din as baat ka?????????????????
yeh samjh gey tu baditk ko app samjh jain gey

ALLAH apny nabi(s.a.w) ke sadky sub ko asal deen ko
apnanin ke tufeeq ataa farmy.. aur fitnoo sey bachnain ke taufeeq de,,,, Aa meen

[tauseeftariq]

Re: Eesaal-e-Sawaab aur Quran Khuwani

aslamo alykum janbab shakir sahib aap jab se PG per aay hain ,aap ny seway ikhtilafi mozu k aur koi post yahaan nheen lagai aur oper aap ka dawa hy k aap islah pasand aadmi hain aur behas o mubahisa aap ko pasaand bhi naheen ,likin moaf kijiye g aap k qolo fail main tazad hy agar aap waqe hi behas wegera ko pasand naheen karty to aap kabhi bhi aysy mozuaat ka intikhaab na karty jo dosry logon ko aap k asth behas par majboor kareen.meri pehly to aap se guzarish k aap apni issnaam nehaad islah ko apny tak mehdood rakheen jis ka libada aor kar aap ummat main mazeed takhreeb kari ka baes ban raheen hain .baqi rhi aap ki sulah joeyat ki baat to us ka raaz aap ki guzashta tamam posts ny fash kar diya hy. main ny pehly bhi aap ki post jo aap ny shri waseela aur bidat waseela k bayn main lagai thi ka tafseeli jawab likh kar laga diya hy new thred waseela aur rade shubhat k unwan se .magar aap ny aik naya mahaz khool diya hy.baqi main aik baar phir aap se guzarish karoon ga k is fouram main aap ikhtilafi mozuaat se par haiz kareen warna yon na ho k aap ki ilmayat k dhool ka pool hameen beech bazar kholna pary.......?

baqi raha aap ka aaj ka mozu jiss par hashia aarai farmaty huy aap ny esaly sawab ki pakeeza mahafil ko kafroon yani hidu pandatoon k ashlok wagera se tashbeeh de hy jiss se aap ki suleh kuliyat ka bhanda beech chorhy phot ta hua dekhai deta hy. aik taraf aap in tamam mahfil k dandy meendy kafroon k sath mila dety hain aur dosri taraf aap ko ummat main islah ka bhi israr hy . kaya ummat main isah ka yehi tareka kar hy jo aap ny apnaya hy? akhir main baat ko khatam karty huy k aa ny kaha hy k kisi bhi saheeh hadeeth se ye sabit nheen k quran par kar murdon ko esaly swaab kiya jasakta hy aur ye k sawab ka transfar karna mumkin hi naheen ka jawab inshALLAH arz karoon ga jald hi. LIKIN HAYRAT HY K DROGH GO HAFZA NABASHAD. ki misal hy aap ki zaat k sadq aur khyraat ko swaab milna ap bhi maan rahy hain aur dosri taraf keh rahain k swab ka transfer hona mumkin hi naheen wahaan ye na mumkin kis ny mumkin bana de jo aap ka jawab wohi hamra ....w/slaam aabi

good answer friend... well done....:phool: :phool: