<<Debate Competition on Pegham>>

[Mujahid Khan]

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GOOD ,,,,acha jawab dia:thmbup: ...dil khush ho gaya...mujhay hairat hai k aquari jee ne akhar aisa q soacha:)

thanks dear,aap bus isi tarah shaabbashi dho phhir daikhh apney bardey bhaai ka kamal:phool:

[Wafa]

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Assalam alaikum.....
Today i am here to talk in favour of promoting English language.I accept urdu is our national language and very sweet language,bt we can't deny thay English language is also very important......It is used extensively as a second language and an official language throughout the world especially in pakistan , india , south africa and in many international organisations.English can be describes as a global language and its a dominant international language in communication, sciene, business and entertainment. English is currently the language most often studied and spoken by up to million people around the world, to at least a basic level.Nowadays Books, magazines, and newspapers written in English are available in many countries around the world.Its important for the betterment of the country.Today see china,its very fast growing country but they have not got success in international leval which they deserve,its because they cant speak english.so its very hard for them in international business like export business.
I am not against of speaking our national language,but we should promote english language in our country to come at an international level.Once Imran khan said......our country people are now aware the importance of english language........see any pak channel,in starting they will say few words in english bt then they start speaking in urdu.The only thing is to encourage them and promoting the language.

(marks: 18/20)

[Wafa]

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Bas u he and Sensible......Talk in English in this post......:)
Tomorrow this thread will be moved to English section ...:insha:
then we can continue our debate over there.......:thmbup:

[Wafa]

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u love ur urdu y say english is very importent 4 u?

We love our mother lang urdu bt we cann't ignore the importance of English.....:comfort:

:embarasse noyhing u are wrong!

If u think its wrong...then prove it.....:thmbup:

[*Hijab*]

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Okay Wafa nice points. However, I didn't get one thing. Why are we supposed to speak English here. I mean maybe you think that English is more understandable than Urdu. But, I think there are some things that might we have to describe in Urdu, because we are in favor of Urdu. So, judge or whoever is responsible for this thread should consider it. Thank You So Very Much!

[*Hijab*]

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Here are some of my points, more points would be given later.

:salam: Everyone

I have red Team A's discussion and points on promoting International language English. As they said in their points that English is a language, which is used worldwide for communication, technology, and etc. At this point they are right!

However, our language is our identity. We are known as Pakistani's and people know us by our culture and language. One is talking today on promoting English. Have you thought that why they are doing it? I believe that English people and English has promoted itself on a scale that most of us beleice that we can't be successful without English. Nevertheless, we have to consider that promoting one's won identity is more important. Here we are not talking about the basics of a language. But, when it comes to debate every point should be discuued. Today we are discussing this topic in English. We are doing it because most of people believe that written in Urdu will not be able for everyone to understand. And if it's written in Roman Urdu many people don't understand much. They believe that today who ever knows how to read and write, knows English better than Urdu. But, we ourselves, Urdu lovers have to work in order to promote our language. As Team A's member said that it is spoken all over the world. It's computer language and in order for us to be successful we have to start it from the kindergarten for students. We are studying this language because we want to be successful. However, we shouldn't forget our own language. This language has beautiful wording. The example is in front of you. This forum "Pegham.com" is here to provide us knowledge about our International Language and we are here to promote it. The English language is spoken worldwide and today there are many people who are in favor of it. This language was promoted because many people who invented different things were English speakers. They did it because they wanted to make sure that their language and identity should be known. They did it to promote their own language. But, if we want to prove ourselves on world stage. We have to work for our own language too, same as they did. Getting knowledge and understanding what is happening around the world is a different issue. But, proving ourselves by using our own identity, culture, and language is a different thing. If we want to promote our language and we are than we have to look at its positive side. Also, I believe that whatever has been created through this language is not beneficial as a Muslim for us. Okay, many better things are invented and are making our lives easier. But, on other hand these things are not beneficial for us as a responsible Muslim. The world won't ask us what we want to promote, we have to tell others that what we want to promote. So, my friends we have to promote our language.

(Marks: 20/20)

[Wafa]

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Okay Wafa nice points. However, I didn't get one thing. Why are we supposed to speak English here. I mean maybe you think that English is more understandable than Urdu. But, I think there are some things that might we have to describe in Urdu, because we are in favor of Urdu. So, judge or whoever is responsible for this thread should consider it. Thank You So Very Much!

Thanks dear....:rose
Desiprincess this post is here becoz this section is more active so we thought to keep this post here for 2 days...Tomorrow this post will be moved to English section ...:)

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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dera friends and judge,today i have get an oppertunity to discuss a topic that is"to promote our mother language URDU or focus on ENGLISH".
i also loves URDU language and like it very much.but i would like to say that we should promote International language ENGLISH.
as u know that the English is power today.if we promote English we can progress in every field of life.i want to tell opposition that Pakistanies can speak Urdu even illiterate people,but English do not speak correctely by educated people than think about illitrate people how they can speak.
let me tell u the realities about the English language.its spoken,read and understood in most parts of the world.you will find someone or the other communicating with u in English.what is more useful than this for a student,politician,a man of science,trader,tourest or artist?what the creditable command of this International language,you can belong to the whole world as well as to your own country.rightly,then,as much as desevedly,you can be called a citizen of the world.English is truly a language of business,commerce and banking.its possible for every one in any country or cornor of the world to correspond and trade Internationaly in English.just consider the field of atomic research,the most vital for our social and economic growth.without our mastery of English,we could not have easily used atomic energy for a power genration,in engineering projects,medical treatment and for building the atomic bomb,missiles and other modern weapons.all forms of technological developments in light and heavy industry,aviation,road,rail and sea communication,warfare,montaineering,hunting and in all other fields of human endeavour are to b found in English.religious and spiritual writtings and translations in English are in plenty.all religious,hinduism,buddhism,christianaty,Islam and the rest,have all their littrature well presented in English books.whythese books translated in English?because the importance of English.it should be a declared nathional language besides Urdu as its our language in all possible ways. thats all
thank u

good going :thmbup:

[aquari]

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aquari ji we are talking about the language of urdu and english,and all the devoloped countries are not because of english language can you please prove that english language is the cause of their developments or hard work is the cause of their development or the english peoples are the cause of their developments:khi: when i am supporting my mother language it does't mean that it will cause the development of our country,but it is our mother and national language so bieng pakistani we should promote urdu language just like the proud nations of the world and for ur kind information if we want to develop our country scientificaly and financialy we need hard and hard work but not in english,even we can do it every thing in our proud urdu language,so doing like this we can make our own identification in the world, as now-a-days pakistan is well famous in all over the world but when ever somebody ask us bieng a pakistani that what is ur national language ? and we say urdu, what is urdu but i think u speak hindi they say,so this is realy the place of big shame for us that we have forgot our proud urdu language and thinking to promote english language,so sad

And you are right I often seen outside Pakistan the whenever people ask about our mother language and if we are saying its Urdu and they replied we think that you are talking in Hindi but have you think why this happen as all over the world these Indians are widely extend and established because they know English language they can communicate in a better way than us, you can observe their speaking powers I have met abroad lots of Indians their speaking power of English was tremendous and due to this factor they are getting better opportunities than us ,just see the example of middle east your will find mostly accounts of companies are handled by Indians ,Indian men are kept as a sales man and so on .
We are not saying that we feel ashamed to have Urdu as a mother language, we are just emphasizing on the facts and significance of English language and the benefits, which we will get by knowing and using this language

[lucky]

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u love ur urdu y say english is very importent 4 u?

you have learnt that i m lover of Urdu.but why you did not learnt the importance of English???

[lucky]

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And you are right I often seen outside Pakistan the whenever people ask about our mother language and if we are saying its Urdu and they replied we think that you are talking in Hindi but have you think why this happen as all over the world these Indians are widely extend and established because they know English language they can communicate in a better way than us, you can observe their speaking powers I have met abroad lots of Indians their speaking power of English was tremendous and due to this factor they are getting better opportunities than us ,just see the example of middle east your will find mostly accounts of companies are handled by Indians ,Indian men are kept as a sales man and so on .
We are not saying that we feel ashamed to have Urdu as a mother language, we are just emphasizing on the facts and significance of English language and the benefits, which we will get by knowing and using this language

Aquari g very good answer:thmbup:
keep it up:thmbup:

[lucky]

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hello my friends and countrymens as i have to talk about to encourage my national and mother language urdu so it does't need to talk in engilsh but as it is a compition therefore i shall describe a few things as my friend munda have told that he is not playing diplomacy,so i shall say ,Yes he is doing diplomacy because the english language could be the proud language of the british but urdu language is the proud language of pakistan.pakistan have came into bieng by the idialogy of two nations,and qauid-i-azam with all his fellowers have strongly inforced that urdu is the mother language of the muslims of the sub continet pak-u-hind,so urdu is the proud language of the all muslim people of pakistan.if we put a compitative look on all the languages of the world with english,so we will find that europe have devolped in their own languages in every field of the science and technology even they are using computer only in their own languages not in english ,they hate to learn english they hate to talk in english.if you will put a look on africa you will see that they are promoting french like munda sialkoti and aquari promting english,because they were the coulony of france like us as we were the coulony of the british.so they are getting education in french ,how strange is this that instead that we have to hate from these languages and cultures we are still slaves by our minds.actualy all these conquerer countries have destroyed the health wealth mind's cultures and even the languages of the couloniel countries,the british have killed the son's of our majesty king bahadur shah zafar infront of his eyes.they have destroyed the great history of the muslims,if you will get back to the great history of the muslims revolutionary developments ,you will see that they had never leart english but they had developed in their own languages.bieng a muslim we have a diffrent culture,diffrent path and differnt purpose of living and dieying,so it is the time to promote our self in science and tecknolgy bieng in our religiuos and in our mother language urdu ,so to remember all the onwards coming nations our sweet sweet home pakistan as an islamic democratic country in the proud language of urdu.at last i shall be remind one of the shair of the national poet of allama muhammad iqbal that
khudi ko kar buland itna keh her taqdeer say pehlay
khuda bundey say khud poochhey bata teri raza kia hai

you r right that Quaid_e_Azam have inforced that Urdu is the mother language but don't forget that Qaid_e_Azam always talked in English in his every speech or debate.we know Pakistan is Islamic democracy country but Islam does not say that ignore English.ok i agree with u that to promote ourself in science and technology by Urdu,how can its possible without English?

[lucky]

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:embarasse noyhing u are wrong!

why you said no?
can you prove it?
if you can then prove

[Saira_abdul]

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GOOG WORkING my team keet it up!

[lucky]

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if events continue in the same path they are currently headed, Urdu will soon be forgotten. The term, Urdu, may remain in use but to refer to a language almost completely different from what it was before. It would be more appropriate to label it as an English or Hindi derivative.

no,Urdu will not b forgotten.we does not say that leave Urdu.we are saying learn Urdu but don't forget English because of its importance.in schools and colleges there is not only subject of English.there are also many subjects which are in Urdu.so how can its possible that Urdu will soon be forgotten?????????