Pakistanies...................

[RulzZ]

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aik deewar to hai "dono" key darmayan ---leykin ye deewar itni mazboot nahi hai abhi ---baat sirf itni hai key is deewar ko giraaney mey kaun pehley pesh qadmi kerta hai
barrey ya naujawan nasl

HUM..!!
Taqdeer aur Tadbeer aik has'sas mozo hai, magar hum maiN say aksar ziadah tar taqdeer par takia kartay hain jo ghalat hai, humain tadbeer bhi karni chaheay aur yeh nahee daikhna chaheay kay pehal kaun karay... kioN na hum he karain :), woh kehtay hain naa, yahee chiragh jalain gaiy to roshni hogi, sharat jo chahay "jalay" aur "kundan" banay :rose...

[Masood]

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HUM..!!
Taqdeer aur Tadbeer aik has'sas mozo hai, magar hum maiN say aksar ziadah tar taqdeer par takia kartay hain jo ghalat hai, humain tadbeer bhi karni chaheay aur yeh nahee daikhna chaheay kay pehal kaun karay... kioN na hum he karain :), woh kehtay hain naa, yahee chiragh jalain gaiy to roshni hogi, sharat jo chahay "jalay" aur "kundan" banay :rose...

:thmbup: tadbeer kar key taqdeer per chhorr do

[RulzZ]

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Becoz hum personalities ko pasand kerty hain yeh nahi dekhty k os ny kia kaam kia hay...


main ny apny aik dost ko kaha k yaar DR Esrar ahemad buhat acha lecture dy rahy thy..k insaan maan k pait main kaisy halat main huta hay
wo kehta hay yeh sun ker chorr yaar wo hay hee WAHABII...
aab aap khudh batain k hum khiyalat dekhain ya personality

jee haan yeh aik sangeen masla hai aur is say bhi sangeen baat yeh kay hum isay mantay bhi nahee, hum shakhsiyat pasandi main mubtila hain, hum yeh daikhtay hain kaun keh rhaa hai yeh nahee daikhtay kay kia keh rhaa hai...!! Hazrat Ali ka aik qool hai kay "elm momin ki gumshuda meraas hai, jahan say milay lay lo" agar koi "GUMSHUDA MERAAS" ka matlab samajh jaiy to apni jahalat tasleem karlay, aur "Jahan say milay" ka matlab he yeh hai kay yeh na daikha jaiy kaun keh rha hai yeh daikho kay kia keh rhaa hai

[RulzZ]

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Mujh jaisa tukey ka shair agar Ghalib ka aik shair apney naam sey suna dey to log ghaur nahin karein gey, magar apna koi shair Ghalib ka naam ley ker suna doon to wah waah waaah ho gi :lol

Haqiqat hai aur mera zati tajurba bhi :kr:, maiN nay shair to idhar udhar nahee kia laikin aik baar aik azeem aadmi ka qool baghair bataiy apnay dost ko suna dia us nay kaha kaisi jahalat wali baat kar'rhay hoo.. phir maiN nay kaha yeh un ka qool hai :blush:, to phir wahee bongiyaan shoro...

[Masood]

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Haqiqat hai aur mera zati tajurba bhi :kr:, maiN nay shair to idhar udhar nahee kia laikin aik baar aik azeem aadmi ka qool baghair bataiy apnay dost ko suna dia us nay kaha kaisi jahalat wali baat kar'rhay hoo.. phir maiN nay kaha yeh un ka qool hai :blush:, to phir wahee bongiyaan shoro...

Meri jaan tumhein aisey bhi log pehchan chukey hai :wk

[Say_lani]

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Assalamu AlaikuM
Khalil bhai ye shair ham sirf pakistan ko ya pakistaniyoon ko nahi day saktay sirf..Iqbal bohot bara poet tha ...pakistan ka nahi Muslim UmMah ka poet tha...Unhonnay jo b likha wo over all muslim condition ko madday nazar rakhtay hoye likha tha...ab chon-k wo rahnay walay sub continent k thay tu tag un par pakistan ka lag gia.other wise jahan b Dunya mai Urdu boli aor samji jati hai Iqbal ko idealise kiyaj ata hai aor unhain poet of the poets mana jata hai....
Tu Muslim Uma_n nay apna waqar giraya hai...muslims nay khud ko down kiya hai ..apni traditions ko bhol gaye hain aor Zawwal ki taraf gamzan hain....
Kar_wa_n pakistanyoon ka nahi Muhammad SAW ki UMMAt ka Karwan hai....
pakistan tu abhi establish nahi hoa tha aor Allama pakistan bannay k haqmai thay so aik cheez jab abhi exist na karay tu us say achi expectations hi hoti hain ye bataian tu Allama aqbal nay muslims k liye likhi jinhon nay baghdada,qurtaba ,spain turkey aor phir sub continent mai maar khai.......
Buttanay Rango kho_n ko chor kar millat mai gum ho ja
na irani rahay baqi na Afghani na turani
shair mai koi mistake ho tu maazrat
so aap loug is topic ko international satha par lain aor muslim UMMA ko discuss karain tu zada bahtar ho ga...i would like to join ur respected views..thanx a lot
Wassalam

[Muhammad Khalil]

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Assalamu AlaikuM
Khalil bhai ye shair ham sirf pakistan ko ya pakistaniyoon ko nahi day saktay sirf..Iqbal bohot bara poet tha ...pakistan ka nahi Muslim UmMah ka poet tha...Unhonnay jo b likha wo over all muslim condition ko madday nazar rakhtay hoye likha tha...ab chon-k wo rahnay walay sub continent k thay tu tag un par pakistan ka lag gia.other wise jahan b Dunya mai Urdu boli aor samji jati hai Iqbal ko idealise kiyaj ata hai aor unhain poet of the poets mana jata hai....
Tu Muslim Uma_n nay apna waqar giraya hai...muslims nay khud ko down kiya hai ..apni traditions ko bhol gaye hain aor Zawwal ki taraf gamzan hain....
Kar_wa_n pakistanyoon ka nahi Muhammad SAW ki UMMAt ka Karwan hai....
pakistan tu abhi establish nahi hoa tha aor Allama pakistan bannay k haqmai thay so aik cheez jab abhi exist na karay tu us say achi expectations hi hoti hain ye bataian tu Allama aqbal nay muslims k liye likhi jinhon nay baghdada,qurtaba ,spain turkey aor phir sub continent mai maar khai.......
Buttanay Rango kho_n ko chor kar millat mai gum ho ja
na irani rahay baqi na Afghani na turani
shair mai koi mistake ho tu maazrat
so aap loug is topic ko international satha par lain aor muslim UMMA ko discuss karain tu zada bahtar ho ga...i would like to join ur respected views..thanx a lot
Wassalam

aap ny baaja fermaya k wo siraf pakistan k liy hee nahi Umma k poet the i m agree on that...thnks for this ...
aur dosri baat k jo aap ny karwan kaha hay Muhammad saw ka wo yeh nahi hu sakta..kiun k wo ala tareen karwan tha mashaALLAH.
aur ager aap kehti hain k muslim uma kee taraf dekha jai ..
to dear pher b yeh shair fitt ata hay...
es wakt konsa umaa ka ameer e karwan hay???
sab k sab ghulami main phansy huy hian....ALLAMA kee ghairat ka kisi ko pass nahi hy siway Iran k wo b thora buhat...kiun k abi tak to wo datta huwa hay...
hum pakistani ee to hath philaty hian sab k samny...

[Muhammad Khalil]

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:thmbup: tadbeer kar key taqdeer per chhorr do

janab kia yehan koi tadbeer kee ja sakti hay???to mujy jalde sy batain

[Muhammad Khalil]

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jee haan yeh aik sangeen masla hai aur is say bhi sangeen baat yeh kay hum isay mantay bhi nahee, hum shakhsiyat pasandi main mubtila hain, hum yeh daikhtay hain kaun keh rhaa hai yeh nahee daikhtay kay kia keh rhaa hai...!! Hazrat Ali ka aik qool hai kay "elm momin ki gumshuda meraas hai, jahan say milay lay lo" agar koi "GUMSHUDA MERAAS" ka matlab samajh jaiy to apni jahalat tasleem karlay, aur "Jahan say milay" ka matlab he yeh hai kay yeh na daikha jaiy kaun keh rha hai yeh daikho kay kia keh rhaa hai

:salam: :salam:

[*Rida*]

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Assalaam-0-Alaikom

nice composing .. nice verse ... nice discussion as well

[Muhammad Khalil]

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Assalaam-0-Alaikom

nice composing .. nice verse ... nice discussion as well

:rose :rose :rose thnkssssssss

[Say_lani]

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aap ny baaja fermaya k wo siraf pakistan k liy hee nahi Umma k poet the i m agree on that...thnks for this ...
aur dosri baat k jo aap ny karwan kaha hay Muhammad saw ka wo yeh nahi hu sakta..kiun k wo ala tareen karwan tha mashaALLAH.
aur ager aap kehti hain k muslim uma kee taraf dekha jai ..
to dear pher b yeh shair fitt ata hay...
es wakt konsa umaa ka ameer e karwan hay???
sab k sab ghulami main phansy huy hian....ALLAMA kee ghairat ka kisi ko pass nahi hy siway Iran k wo b thora buhat...kiun k abi tak to wo datta huwa hay...
hum pakistani ee to hath philaty hian sab k samny...

jee Khalil manay yahi kaha hai k ye shair pakistan k liye nahi jasi elaboration aap nay bargay gul ko di ..it is very vast in its meaning..ye Allama nay muslim Umma k baray mai kaha hai ...i meant that........haan ham ye kah saktay hain k pakistan ki present downing condition par bohot suit karta hai aor fit ata hai
aor jo baat aap kah rahay hain k ye karwan wo nahi hai Muhammad SAW ka karwan koi aor tha .....i m totally disagreed ....Sorry for that
IS k liye aik waqia Paish hai Aik Dafa CHori k ilzaam mai aik Aadmi paish hoa NAbi Pak SAW nay us ka hath kaatnay ka hukam diya jab hath cut gia tu blood daikh kar aap roonay lagay aor jis aadmi nay chour ko aap ki munsif aad_alat mai paish kiya tha ,us say kahnay lagay ab khush ho is ka hath katwa kar..Wo aadmi kahnay laga tu aap na kat_tay hath...
IS par nabi pak SAW nay fermaya k ye shariyat-i- Muhammadi SAW nahi hain Shariyat-i- RAbb-i- Muhammad SAW hai so isko kasay na poosra kia jata ...Haan tum is say tooba karwa laytay aor isay maray pas na laa_tay
ye baat Tabligi Jamat k Maulana TAriq jamil ki taqreer mai thi...for ref.
now coming to present situation khalil...ab wo chour tu chour tha...laikan Nabi SAW nay usay disown nahi kiya aor us ki takleef par Ro diye tu aap ya ham koun hotay hain ye kahnay walay k aaj k dour k UMMAn Nabi SAW k karwan mai shamil nahi hai...
Agar aap ab b yahi samjtay hain tu phir bataye k
aap ki indentity kia hai???..
.Nabi SAW k karwan mai shamil na honay ka matlab aap kia laytay hain???
baqi baat ko phir continue karain gay ......koun Datta hoa hai aor koun nahi...........
Wassalam

[Muhammad Khalil]

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IS k liye aik waqia Paish hai Aik Dafa CHori k ilzaam mai aik Aadmi paish hoa NAbi Pak SAW nay us ka hath kaatnay ka hukam diya jab hath cut gia tu blood daikh kar aap roonay lagay aor jis aadmi nay chour ko aap ki munsif aad_alat mai paish kiya tha ,us say kahnay lagay ab khush ho is ka hath katwa kar..Wo aadmi kahnay laga tu aap na kat_tay hath...
IS par nabi pak SAW nay fermaya k ye shariyat-i- Muhammadi SAW nahi hain Shariyat-i- RAbb-i- Muhammad SAW hai so isko kasay na poosra kia jata ...Haan tum is say tooba karwa laytay aor isay maray pas na laa_tay
ye baat Tabligi Jamat k Maulana TAriq jamil ki taqreer mai thi...for ref.
now coming to present situation khalil...ab wo chour tu chour tha...laikan Nabi SAW nay usay disown nahi kiya aor us ki takleef par Ro diye tu aap ya ham koun hotay hain ye kahnay walay k aaj k dour k UMMAn Nabi SAW k karwan mai shamil nahi hai...
Agar aap ab b yahi samjtay hain tu phir bataye k
aap ki indentity kia hai???..
.Nabi SAW k karwan mai shamil na honay ka matlab aap kia laytay hain???
baqi baat ko phir continue karain gay ......koun Datta hoa hai aor koun nahi...........
Wassalam

aap baat ko kisi aur side per ly ja rahi hain....
ager hum Nabi Muhammad SAW k karwan main shamil hain to humain yeh sab takleefain kabool hain ......