Westernization VS Talibnization

[AbgeenA]

Aslamoalikum:salam:
aj kal Pakistan me Taliban par bohat tanqeed ho rahi he...aik khoaf he k kahin Taliban shehron ka rukh na kar lein....or doosri taraf dekhen to kuch salon me Pakistan me westernization me bhi behad izafa hua he....lekin un par koi baat nahi karta.....kion k jo is bare me tankqeed kare ga wo backword...pendoo....purane khiyalaat ka mailk kehlata he....libas se le kar hamra rehen sehen sab westernize ho raha he....modern hona aik alag baat he lekin westernize hona aik alag baat.....
to me bohat din se is bare me soch rahi hon k in dono ki waja se mujhe lagta he hamari society divide ho rahi he.....ap kia kehte hen is bare me?aik kehta he parda karo....doosra sleeveless n capri pehn'ne ko mayoob nahi samjhta.....aik kehta he namaz parho....doosra kehta he dil me Allah ki yaad kafi he kion k mazhab personal moamla he:donno:
kuch samjh nahi arahi k akher ho kia raha he?372-scare

[MeemSheenAlif]

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Walaikum Assalam...

French revolution anae wala he:D....inshaAllah

[Insaaan]

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Taliban....muslin nahi hian..
muslim wo hota hy jis hy hath aur zuban sy sab mehfooz rahin.

[aabi2cool]

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دونوں انتہائیں ہیں اصل اسلام ان دونو کہ بین بین ہے یعنی اعتدال کی راہ

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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Aslamoalikum:salam:
aj kal Pakistan me Taliban par bohat tanqeed ho rahi he...aik khoaf he k kahin Taliban shehron ka rukh na kar lein....or doosri taraf dekhen to kuch salon me Pakistan me westernization me bhi behad izafa hua he....lekin un par koi baat nahi karta.....kion k jo is bare me tankqeed kare ga wo backword...pendoo....purane khiyalaat ka mailk kehlata he....libas se le kar hamra rehen sehen sab westernize ho raha he....modern hona aik alag baat he lekin westernize hona aik alag baat.....
to me bohat din se is bare me soch rahi hon k in dono ki waja se mujhe lagta he hamari society divide ho rahi he.....ap kia kehte hen is bare me?aik kehta he parda karo....doosra sleeveless n capri pehn'ne ko mayoob nahi samjhta.....aik kehta he namaz parho....doosra kehta he dil me Allah ki yaad kafi he kion k mazhab personal moamla he:donno:
kuch samjh nahi arahi k akher ho kia raha he?372-scare

Wa Alaikum Aslam,

Senorita tumhara topic bilkul unjust he. Taliban vs Westernization. Both are failure in Pakistan. Pakistan need a middle way of real Islamic environment. Islam stands for Salm which mean peace. If peace prevails, Islam prevails.

Jahan tak sleeveless ka taaluq he, to tumhein koon kehta he ke sleevless ke loog haami hein. Ye larkiyaan he hoti ho jinhein itni aag lagi hoti he kum se kum kapray pehananay ki, aur aisi larkiyoon ko aur us ke khandan walon ko hum loog be'gairat gardantay hein.

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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Taliban....muslin nahi hian..
muslim wo hota hy jis hy hath aur zuban sy sab mehfooz rahin.

دونوں انتہائیں ہیں اصل اسلام ان دونو کہ بین بین ہے یعنی اعتدال کی راہ

agreed

[AbgeenA]

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Walaikum Assalam...

French revolution anae wala he:D....inshaAllah

kab tak?372-scare

[AbgeenA]

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Taliban....muslin nahi hian..
muslim wo hota hy jis hy hath aur zuban sy sab mehfooz rahin.

Allah behter janta he kon musalman he or kon nahi:donno:lekin ye jo do intehaon par Pakistan ko le jaya ja raha he ye pareshan kun he:mm:

[AbgeenA]

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دونوں انتہائیں ہیں اصل اسلام ان دونو کہ بین بین ہے یعنی اعتدال کی راہ

misal se wazeyah karen.....poore poore islam me dakhil ho jane ki baat or ben ben....confusing:mm:

[AbgeenA]

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Wa Alaikum Aslam,

Senorita tumhara topic bilkul unjust he. Taliban vs Westernization. Both are failure in Pakistan. Pakistan need a middle way of real Islamic environment. Islam stands for Salm which mean peace. If peace prevails, Islam prevails.

Jahan tak sleeveless ka taaluq he, to tumhein koon kehta he ke sleevless ke loog haami hein. Ye larkiyaan he hoti ho jinhein itni aag lagi hoti he kum se kum kapray pehananay ki, aur aisi larkiyoon ko aur us ke khandan walon ko hum loog be'gairat gardantay hein.

ab ye real islam hamen kon bataey ga?kese pata chale ga?kia hukmaran bataen ge ya molvi bataey ga ya america bataey ga?372-scare
or ye begherti aj Pakistan em bohat aam hoti ja rahi he...modern hone k naam par...nikab lene wali larkiyon ko bohat se log ninja turte kehte hen:embarasse
poori dunya jis tarah Pakistan par talibanization ka ilzam laga rahi he mujhe lagta he yahan aam musalman rehte hi nahi372-scare

[chaand_nager]

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ab ye real islam hamen kon bataey ga?kese pata chale ga?kia hukmaran bataen ge ya molvi bataey ga ya america bataey ga?372-scare
or ye begherti aj Pakistan em bohat aam hoti ja rahi he...modern hone k naam par...nikab lene wali larkiyon ko bohat se log ninja turte kehte hen:embarasse
poori dunya jis tarah Pakistan par talibanization ka ilzam laga rahi he mujhe lagta he yahan aam musalman rehte hi nahi372-scare

afsos hain na meri jan k hum apne ,mulk ko kud he tebha ker rahain hain aur jahan tak modern pen ki baatahin to baat pher ghoom phe rk wahin ajati hain k pahly apne apne gher sy masherti burion ko khtm kia jaye
schools main janti hokia permote kia ja raha haink teachers jeans aur shirts pehnain kia is k bina student ko taleem nhe di ja sakti aur ager koi kehta hain k nekab wali lerki ko ninja kaha jata ahin to kehny do kia fark pert ahain wo shair nehe suna ap ny

dunya waly dil walo ko aur b bohat kuch khety hain
ek humaian awara kehna koi bhera ilzam nhe
ya to kud ko theakh ker lo ya logo ki baton ko soun lo ek he kam ho skat hain ager hum apne ander qout iradi paida ker lain aur zulm k khilaaf awwaz utain to america to kia koi b humari tarf ungli nhe uathye ga mager aj hum mutahed nhe hain aur yeh he seb sy bahri kamzori ka fida uthya ja raha hain

[ballay_baaz]

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Walaikum Assalam...

French revolution anae wala he:D....inshaAllah

walaikum salam
there was gap between poor and rich tab french revolution aya tha. but the situation here is something different because there is clash between religion and civilization. french revolution mein masses nay ameer logon ka safaya kiya tha. lakin yahan agar masses milain aor aktha hoon tu kis ka safaya karein gay taliban ka yaa western culture ka?? so i think first we should decide what we have to do and where we have to go and what path we have to adopt. then we can bring revoultion like french revolution otherwise we as pakistan are not clear what we have to do.

[ballay_baaz]

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Taliban....muslin nahi hian..
muslim wo hota hy jis hy hath aur zuban sy sab mehfooz rahin.

i am not supporter of taliban anyway. but to declare non muslim them is not fair. if you think they are non muslim then you justify it. you should prove it from quran and sunnah.

[ballay_baaz]

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ab ye real islam hamen kon bataey ga?kese pata chale ga?kia hukmaran bataen ge ya molvi bataey ga ya america bataey ga?372-scare
or ye begherti aj Pakistan em bohat aam hoti ja rahi he...modern hone k naam par...nikab lene wali larkiyon ko bohat se log ninja turte kehte hen:embarasse
poori dunya jis tarah Pakistan par talibanization ka ilzam laga rahi he mujhe lagta he yahan aam musalman rehte hi nahi372-scare

molvi se, hukmaran se ya america se islam seekho gi toh batak jao gi. khasaray mein jao gi. islam ko khud seekho tumharay pass quran para hey tumharay pass ahdees hein. in ko khud study karo i promise you will learn kay islam kiya hey.

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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ab ye real islam hamen kon bataey ga?kese pata chale ga?kia hukmaran bataen ge ya molvi bataey ga ya america bataey ga?372-scare
or ye begherti aj Pakistan em bohat aam hoti ja rahi he...modern hone k naam par...nikab lene wali larkiyon ko bohat se log ninja turte kehte hen:embarasse
poori dunya jis tarah Pakistan par talibanization ka ilzam laga rahi he mujhe lagta he yahan aam musalman rehte hi nahi372-scare

Ninja turtle wali baat to tum khud pheela rahi ho Senorita :lol

Mere khyaal se pakistan ko talibanization ka aisay khatma kerna chahiye jese Hitler ne Jews ka holocaut kia tha. Taliban moojooda zamanay mein jaahliyat ki sub se bari misaal he aur yeh insaan ki shakal mein darinday hein. Tum taliban ki ziada side na liya karo, chand din taliban mein reh ke aao, tumhein lag pata jaye :tasali:

Islam is a moderate religion, is mein itni sakhti nahi ke insaan ka zameen per zinda rehna mushkil ho jaye.