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    Salam pyaray buchoo :khi:

    Mera sawal yeh he ke ager aap sahib'e'hesiyat hein to mujay yeh bataiye ke aap sadkay/zakaat ki rakam ko kis tarah kharch kerte hein? Aur jo is kabil nahi wo yeh bataein ke aap ke nazdeek sadkay/zakaat ki rakam ka sahi masaraf kia he?

    Aap ke nazdeek aisa paisa kis jagah aur kis tanasab se kharch kerna chahiye, zara detail mein jawaab dijiye ga.

    Aur haan, Masjid ko donation kis hud tak dene chahiyein aur ghurba'aa ko kis hud tak?

    Some more Points

    1. Mein ne dekha he ke sahib'e'hesiyat loog ghareebon ko monthly 1000/2000 dete hein, un ki ikathi madad nahi kerte ke koi apnay paoon pe he khara na ho jaye aur usay next time mangnay ki zaroorat he na paray. Jub ke ager un ke doost akhbaar masjid ke liye chanda lene aaein to unhein lakh 2 lakh ka cheque kaat ke dene mein koi waqt nahi lagatay.

    2. kuch loog pura ramzan daily aftaari ka ehtamaam kerte hein, aur her aftaari mein avg. 30 se 50,000 rupay kharch ker dete hein. Aur wo bohat khush hotay hein. Ager un se koi banda ilaaj ki gharz se paisay mangay to aisay bandoon ki faryaad ko ignore ker dete hein.

    3. Kuch loog aisay bhi dekhay hein jo her saal Huj kerne jatay hein, aur apni waah waah kerwatay hein, aur loog kehtay hein ke is se ziada perhaizgaar koi aur banda he nahi he. Jub ghareebon per kharch kerne ka waqat aata he to yeh loog bakheel ho jatay hein?

    In teenon points ko aap kis nazar se dekhtay hein?
    Last edited by Mr. Sialkoty; 1 September 2008, 07:48.
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  • #2
    Re: Help kese ki jaye

    Sadke/Zaqat ki raqam ka behtareen musraf yeh hai keh aap kissi aisi family ko dain jiss ko aap jaante hain, same what we do

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    • #3
      Re: Help kese ki jaye

      Originally posted by musaddaq View Post
      Sadke/Zaqat ki raqam ka behtareen musraf yeh hai keh aap kissi aisi family ko dain jiss ko aap jaante hain, same what we do
      Ok fine. But masjid/madrisoon ko kis hud tak raqam deni chahiye?
      :thmbup:

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      • #4
        Re: Help kese ki jaye

        Originally posted by munda_sialkoty View Post
        Ok fine. But masjid/madrisoon ko kis hud tak raqam deni chahiye?
        yaar jitna main en suna hia masjid ko to sadka nahi diya jata, haan kissi madrisa ko de sakte hain, or woh to ek continued process hota hia na, but sath main kissi family ki kafalay jitni aap ki himmat ho kerni chahia

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        • #5
          Re: Help kese ki jaye

          Originally posted by musaddaq View Post
          yaar jitna main en suna hia masjid ko to sadka nahi diya jata, haan kissi madrisa ko de sakte hain, or woh to ek continued process hota hia na, but sath main kissi family ki kafalay jitni aap ki himmat ho kerni chahia
          You got good point. Mein ne first post mein 3 points add kiye hein, us ke baray mein tumhari kia raye he?
          :thmbup:

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          • #6
            Re: Help kese ki jaye

            ham log mukhtalif tarikon se dete hen,kisi gharib family ko,madrase me,shouket khamnam me,ghar me kam karne walon ko.

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            • #7
              Re: Help kese ki jaye

              A_O_A
              App k sawal ka jawab ye hai (meri knowledge k Hisab se)
              !........to janab app ki sadqy orr zakat ka pehla haq daar app ka koi bi rista dar hai jo k iss ko deserve kartta hoo .


              Orr tesry number pe koi midrasssa atta hai
              Jab k mery nazdeek agar app kisi masjid ko dena chahtty hoo to wo zakat nahi honi cahyee ..balky app ani akhrat ki neat se app do tahk wo app k leye sadqa jarian ban jayee orr dunia or akhrat ki sarkhroi apko hasil ho jayee

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              • #8
                Re: Help kese ki jaye

                THE ZAKAT
                (Obligatory Charity)
                .
                The Quran defines the concept of the Zakat (Obligatory Charity) and outlines all the guidelines related to its payment. This page presents all related aspects of this religious duty.
                1- When was the Zakat first decreed and to whom?
                According to the Quran, the Zakat was decreed from as far back as the time of Abraham:
                "We made them (Abraham and his sons) imams who guided in accordance with our commandments, and we taught them how to work righteousness, and how to observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and the obligatory charity (Zakat). To us, they were devoted worshipers." 21:73
                2- What is the Quranic definition of the Zakat?
                The Zakat is an obligatory payment on all believers who have an income. This payment is to be paid to in accordance to God's instructions (see section 9).
                "They also ask you what to give to charity: say, "AL-AFW" God thus clarifies the revelations for you, that you may reflect" 2:219
                The Key word in this verse is the word "AL-AFW". To be able to determine what is exactly meant by this word we should look at other Quranic verses that employ the same word. The following are some Quranic verses that are of special significance to our inquiry:
                "Additionally, they worshiped the calf, after all the miracles they had seen. 'FA AFAWNA AAN ZALIKA' (We pardoned all this)." 4:153
                "Who give to charity during the good times, as well as the bad times. They are suppressors of anger, and 'AL-AAFEEN AAN AL-NAAS' (pardoners of the people). God loves the charitable." 3:134
                "O you who believe, do not ask about matters which, if revealed to you prematurely, would hurt you. If you ask about them in light of the Quran, they will become obvious to you. God has 'AAFA ANHA' (deliberately overlooked them).God is Forgiver, Clement." 5:101
                " ........... 'AAFA ALLAH AMMA SALAF' (God has pardoned past offenses). But if anyone returns to such an offense, God will avenge it. God is Almighty, Avenger." 5:95
                According to the above verse, we can see that the word 'AAFA' (and its derivatives) has been used to that which has been pardoned or overlooked.
                If we apply this to the word 'AL-AFW' which is used in 2:219 and which is related to the payment of Zakat, we can see that God is telling us that we should pay Zakat (charity) from that part of our income which we can afford to give away without the need to ask for it back, or in other words what we can afford to overlook and pardon without incurring any hardship.
                It is significant that God did not define or quantize the exact portion of our incomes which we are able to give to charity and be able to overlook it (not ask for it back). God knows that this will be different for each individual and directly dependant on each's income and circumstances. It is also dependant on each person's desire to do righteousness. Consequently, God left it to each indivual to assess his/her own needs and obligations, and then decide what portion (or all) of one's excess income that can be given away and overlooked without incurring any hardship.
                3- Does the Quran authorise a fixed rate of Zakat?
                The straightforward answer is NO. Nowehere in the Quran is there any hint of a fixed rate. The 2.5% rate is not found in the Quran. We have seen that the Quran defines the Zakat payment from 'Al-AFW', which is what a person is able to give away without incurring any great hardship. Obviously this amount will differ from person to another depending on each's income.
                As a matter of fact, in 17:26-29 we are given concrete confirmation that God did NOT set a fixed percentage for Zakat:
                17:26-29
                26. You shall give the due alms to the relatives, the needy, the poor, and the travelling alien, but do not be excessive, extravagant.
                27. The extravagant are brethren of the devils, and the devil is unappreciative of his Lord.
                28. Even if you have to turn away from them, as you pursue the mercy of your Lord, you shall treat them in the nicest manner.
                29. You shall not keep your hand stingily tied to your neck, nor shall you foolishly open it up, lest you end up blamed and sorry.
                From the words 'due alms' in verse 26 we realise that the subject here is the Zakat. With this in mind, the words in verse 29 become very significant:
                "You shall not keep your hand stingily tied to your neck, nor shall you foolishly open it up, lest you end up blamed and sorry."
                We must meditate on these words a while and pose the question: If God had actually set a fixed percentage (e.g. 2.5%) for the payment of the Zakat (due alms), would He command us not to be stingy nor too extravagant? The words do not be stingy nor too extravagant indicate that the percentage is NOT fixed, but is flexible and that it has been left to each individual's means.
                4- If the 2.5% rate is not authorised in the Quran, why do some 'Quran Alone' believers follow it?
                Many believers who claim to follow the Quran alone have advocated the rate of 2.5% to be the lawful rate for the Zakat, they argue that this rate although not given in the Quran yet has been given to Abraham and has been preserved and passed down to us over the genertions.
                However, and whether this rate has been decreed for Abraham or not, it is NOT found in the Quran and thus upholding it would violate the Quranic command not to follow anything from outside the Quran. Moreover, the claim that this rate (along with other religious practices) were preserved and passed down to us intact is in contradiction to available evidence. Evidence confirms that almost all what we inherited from our parents has been subject to great manipulation and is based on fabricated hadith which contradicts Quranic teaching. It is thus naive and inaccurate to claim that any particular practice has passed unscathed and without being corrupted!
                But this is not all, we are told in the Quran clearly that different rituals and rules were given to different people (5:48). We are also commanded very clearly in the same verse to follow what is given to us (and not what was given to those before us). The same verse (5:48) emphasises the fact that we are to follow what is revealed to us (Quran) and not what is revealed to those before us. What all this amounts to is that we are not accountable to what was given to Abraham and others before us nor are we commanded to follow it. We are only to follow what is revealed specifically to us (5:48). If we add to this the fact that what was given to Abraham is not necessarily what is given to us (5:48), then it becomes necessary to discard all inherited rituals that are not cleary authorised in the Quran.
                Another argument put forward by some believers to indicate that all Islamic rituals have been preserved from the time of Abraham till the time of Muhammad and subsequently till we received it today, is by referring to 16:123 where God commands Muhammad to follow the 'MILLAT' of Abraham. They interpret the word 'MILLAT' to mean religion with all its practices and rituals. They add that the religion of Abraham must have been known and practised at the time, since God would not ask Muhammad to follow something unless it is known and practised.
                The obvious error here is in the interpretation of the word 'MILLAT' ...... it is thus crucial to this analysis that we arrive at the exact Quranic definition of the word 'MILLAT'.
                5- What is the Quranic definition of 'Milat Ibrahim'?

                To get a full Quranic view of the phrase 'Millat Ibraheem' please go to the following page:
                6- Where does the 2.5% rate really come from?
                Any claims that the rate of 2.5% for the Zakat has been decreed to Abraham and has been preserved till our day cannot in any way be substantiated through the use of Quranic evidence.

                The genuine reader who wishes to obey God's command in 6:114 and take the Quran as his/her ONLY source of law, must stop and ponder on this matter.
                7- The importance of Zakat
                Zakat charity is given great importantance in the Quran, the Most Merciful has associated His Mercy to those who give it.
                " ........... My mercy encompasses all things. I will decree it for those who lead a righteous life, give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and believe in our revelations ....."7:156
                8- When should the Zakat be paid?
                Zakat must be given away "on the day of harvest" (6:141).
                "Eat from their fruits, and give the due alms on the day of harvest" 6:141
                This Quranic verse makes it necessary that we should pay the Zakat whenever we receive income. The Muslims who follow corrupt un-Quranic laws have lost this most important commandment; they calculate and give Zakat only once a year (on the total annual income).
                In this Quranic command to pay Zakat whenever there is an income (harvest) lies a very benificial economic wisdom. One of the factors that contribute to economic prosperity of any community is the circulation of money. Higher circulation of money is much more productive than slower circulation. If Zakat is paid whenever income is generated the economy will benifit much more than if Zakat is paid only once a year on the years total earnings.
                9- Who should the Zakat be paid to?
                The Quran outlines the recipients of the Zakat as follows:
                "They ask you about giving: say, "The charity you give shall go to the parents, the relatives, the orphans, the poor, and the traveling alien." Any good you do, God is fully aware thereof." 2:215
                Some scholars have indicated that the Zakat should only be paid to Muslim recipients, however this restriction has no Quranic reference. The recipients of the Zakat (outlined in 2:215) could be of any faith or creed.
                10- How many Zakat's are there?
                Once again, some scholars who have totally shaped a new corrupt Islam which is not based on the Quran, have invented all kinds of Zakat like Zakat Eid Al-Fitr (the Zakat at the Eid at the end of Ramadan). They have instituted different Zakat's to be paid at all different feasts and celebrations ..... Needless to say, all these additional Zakat have no authorisation in the Quran. The only timing given in the Quran when the Zakat is due is when income is earned. The Quranic Zakat authorised by God is not connected to any specific days in the calendar nor to any feasts or special occasions.
                11- What is the difference between Zakat and Sadaqah?
                The traditional Muslims who claim that Zakat must be paid at a minimum of 2.5% of one's income have suggested that Zakat is the 2.5% and that any voluntary charity above that is called Sadaqah ..... Consequently, they say that the Zakat is obligatory while the Sadaqah is voluntary.
                However, when we study the Quran, we find that the words Zakat and Sadaqah speak of the same thing. Let us read the following words:
                "The 'Sadaqaat' shall go to the poor, the needy, the workers who collect them, the new converts, to free the slaves, to those burdened by sudden expenses, in the cause of God, and to the traveling alien. This is a 'Farida' (commandment) from God. God is Omniscient, Most Wise." 9:60
                We note here that God defined the 'Sadaqaat' as a 'Farida (commandment). This means that it is NOT a voluntary payment, but an obligatory payment. Consequently, it can only be the Zakat (which is obligatory).

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                • #9
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                  RECIPIENTS OF ZAKAAT

                  Now that we understand zakah, and its various conditions and calculation, we must now learn who it is payable to. Those who are entitled to receive zakah are grouped into eight categories, as determined by the Qur'an and Sunnah. Allah says, "Sadaqat are only for the poor who do not beg and the poor who beg and those employed to collect them, and for attracting the hearts (of those who have been inclined towards Islam), and to free the captives and for those in debt and for Allah's Cause, and for the wayfarer a due imposed by Allah. And Allah is All-Knower, All-Wise." [9:60]
                  The Fuqaraa (the poor who do not beg)
                  These may have money, but it is not sufficient for their basic needs. Others have stated that these people have nothing. Allah says, 'If they are Fuqaraa (poor), Allah will enrich them out of His Bounty.' (24:32)
                  The Masaakeen (the poor who beg)
                  These people do not have anything, so they are in need of asking others for food and clothing. Such have the rights to ask and receive Zakaat. Others hold that these are those who may have some of their basic needs. Allah says, 'But he has made no effort to pass on the path that is steep. And what will make you know the path that is steep? (It is) freeing a neck (slave). Or giving food in a day of hunger to an orphan near of kin. Or to a miskeen afflicted with misery.' (90:11-16)
                  Attracting Hearts
                  Zakaat is also to be paid to attract the hearts of those who have been inclined towards Islam or to prevent the harm of non-Muslims residing within the Muslim state. Scholars have agreed that this type of Zakaat should be considered whenever there is a need for it. We often see people who embrace Islam become detached from their families and are sometimes deprived of a source of income. These people have the right to receive Zakaat to protect themselves from harm and to make their faith firm.
                  Freeing Captives

                  This shows that Zakaat can be paid in order to buy a slave and then free him or her. These slaves become free, capable of worshipping Allah, and then become useful members within the community.
                  Wayfarer
                  The wayfarer is the traveler stranded in a foreign land and is in need of money to achieve his objective or to return to his own country. This person can receive Zakaat, if the purpose for traveling is lawful. If the purpose were unlawful, then he should not receive any moneys from Zakaat because it would help him in his sins. Allah Ta'ala warns us, 'Help one another in righteousness and piety, but do not help one another in sin and transgression.' (5:2)

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                  • #10
                    Re: Help kese ki jaye

                    The Debtors
                    Debtors are those people burdened by debts because of personal needs or social necessity, such as the person who borrows to spend on himself and his family. This person is given Zakaat if he doesn't have enough money beyond his basic needs to repay his debt. However, for the one who borrows money for a social necessity, such as spending on an orphan, reconciling between Muslims, or renovating a Masjid or school, then he may be given Zakaat to repay his debt. This holds true even if he is wealthy according to the sound opinion of the jurists.
                    Allah's Cause
                    Jurists have differed in the meaning of this outlet for Zakaat. Some have limited it to the fighters in the path of Allah, even if they were wealthy, if they do not receive wages from the Islamic treasury. Others say that this also includes all acts that make one closer to Allah. Therefore, anyone that strives in the obedience of Allah and performs good deserves Zakaat. The opinion that 'Allah's Cause' is limited to voluntary mujahids that do not receive wages from the Islamic treasury, seems most correct. If the meaning were inclusive of all good deeds, the prophet would have explained that. The Khulafaa al-Raashidoon (rightly guided Caliphs) collected tremendous amounts of Zakaat, but nothing has been transmitted about spending the Zakaat on other paths of good. Moreover, Allah Ta'ala has specified the eight recipients of Zakaat and none of them include other than what is stated. Any outlet other than these should receive support from the Islamic treasury, but not from Zakaat.
                    Zakaat Collectors
                    These are persons that the authority employs to collect the Zakaat. The authority gives them a fee for their work, which includes, collecting, recording, guarding, dividing and distributing the Zakaat.
                    ZAKAAT IS NOT DUE TO:
                    THE WEALTHY
                    Jurists have agreed that no wealthy person should be given from the share of the fuqaraa and the masakeen. They held that giving to the rich from their share meant depriving them from the zakah that they rightly deserve, and that defeats the purpose of its obligation which is to satisfy the needs of the poor. Other outlets of zakah may be given to the wealthy and this includes those employed to collect the zakah, attracting their hearts towards Islam, fighters in the path of Allah, and the wayfarers.
                    THE STRONG & HEALTHY
                    Jurists have agreed that zakah is forbidden to anyone capable of working and earning a living unless he cannot find a job or he finds a job but the money received is insufficient for him and his family. Then he can be assisted from zakah with the amount for his needs, or that enables him to work. The reason behind this prohibition is that these people are commanded by the Shar'iah to work and support themselves. They are not to lie back and depend on others.
                    THE DISBELIEVER
                    Jurists agree that it is forbidden to spend zakah on the unbelievers for this will constitute supporting them and their disbelief. The obligation of spending the zakah is on poor and needy Muslims. This means that it should not be spent on the disbelieving poor and needy. Furthermore, the apparent wisdom in zakah is to satisfy the needs of poor Muslims and establish bridges of love and brotherhood among the members of the Muslim community.
                    FATHERS, SONS & WIVES
                    Jurists agree that it is not permissible to give zakah to one's wife, father, grandfather, mother, grandmother, son, grandson, and the daughter or her children. This is because if one pays zakah to them then he has not fulfilled his financial obligations towards them. This is equated to giving the zakah to himself. However, giving zakah to other relatives is permissible (brothers, sisters and others) when there is no obligation to take care of them. This is even better because one receives the rewards of sadaqah and of keeping good relations with relatives.
                    THE FAMILY OF THE PROPHET sallallaahu alayhi wasallam
                    The family of the Prophet did not receive zakah because they took their share from the booty gained from war. However, if they did not receive a share from the booty, can they be given zakah? Some jurists state that it is permissible whereas others say that it is not permissible. The family or descendants of the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wasallam, are the Banu Hashim and Banu Abdul-Muttalib, while others feel that they are only the Banu Hashim

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                    • #11
                      Re: Help kese ki jaye

                      Mera khayal hai ye column app k leye kafi help full hongy

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                      • #12
                        Re: Help kese ki jaye

                        Originally posted by senorita View Post
                        ham log mukhtalif tarikon se dete hen,kisi gharib family ko,madrase me,shouket khamnam me,ghar me kam karne walon ko.
                        Lekin kheraat ya zakaat dene ka tareeka kaar kia hota he.

                        Aap aglay ko us ki zaroorat ke mutabik dete hein.

                        Ya aap bohat ziada loogon mein thoori thoori baant dete hein?

                        Kia aap ne kabi soocha ke thoori thoori rakam dene ki bajaye ager ikathi rakam kisi ghareeb ko de di jaye to wo bhi koi choota moota kaam ker ke apnay aap ko stand ker sakta he?

                        Islam mein zakaat ka jo asool he, us ke tehat ager her koi imaandari se zakaat de to koi bhi ghareeb admi baki nahi buchta, but hum loog wahi pe ziada kyoon kharch kerte hein jahan hamein waah ki tawaqu hoti he
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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by sham-e-mehfil View Post
                          Mera khayal hai ye column app k leye kafi help full hongy
                          My concepts are quite clear and I keep on studying such kind of material. Now I just want to know your personal opinion. I mentioned 3 points in bold. Can you say anything on them?
                          :thmbup:

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                          • #14
                            Re: Help kese ki jaye

                            Originally posted by munda_sialkoty View Post
                            Salam pyaray buchoo :khi:
                            Wa Alaikum Assalam Uncle teddy

                            sadqa/kheraat/zakaat ko humnay to apni amma ko yun detay dekha hay k humaree 20 saal se aik Amaa kam wali aatee theen ghar mein pehlay unk husband ki death ho gaey aur 4 saal pehlay unki khud ki death ho gaey.................. ab un k dher saray bachay hain ..............MashaALLAh aur betiyan sab shadee ki umr ko ..aur chhotay bachay bhi hain ..


                            to unki kifalat waghera ...aur shadiiyan kerwana.........isee type k sab kaam humaree amma janai nay apnay zimmay lay rakhay hain ...........................aur unhee k mohallay mein aur bhi aisee families hain so amma un ki zaruratein poree kar detee hain ..............ALLAH k hukum se :)
                            Last edited by Eshaa Chaudhry; 1 September 2008, 15:56.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Help kese ki jaye

                              Originally posted by munda_sialkoty View Post
                              Lekin kheraat ya zakaat dene ka tareeka kaar kia hota he.

                              Aap aglay ko us ki zaroorat ke mutabik dete hein.

                              Ya aap bohat ziada loogon mein thoori thoori baant dete hein?

                              Kia aap ne kabi soocha ke thoori thoori rakam dene ki bajaye ager ikathi rakam kisi ghareeb ko de di jaye to wo bhi koi choota moota kaam ker ke apnay aap ko stand ker sakta he?

                              Islam mein zakaat ka jo asool he, us ke tehat ager her koi imaandari se zakaat de to koi bhi ghareeb admi baki nahi buchta, but hum loog wahi pe ziada kyoon kharch kerte hein jahan hamein waah ki tawaqu hoti he
                              aik sath bhi dete hen or sometime 2/3 mukhtalif places par bhi de dete hen.it depends.sadqa to yateem khane me dete hen.kherat aksar ghareeb logon ko.zakat kabhi kisi family ko ya shouket khanam ko.

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