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    Assalaam-o-Alaikum

    After reading the post of Scorpion_RullZ and a comment by a very respected member, yet again I am posting a very serious problem of our society which needs an immediate attention and that is:
    (If need I will try to translate that in URDU but I believe the message is very clear and everyone can read-out my itnetions)


    Religious Intolerance

    Being a Muslim and staunch follower of ISLAM, we can not forget the basic ideology of last sermon of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW. His whole sermon was an excellent example to live with harmony in this entire world without and prejudice and apartheids.





    NOW what is our object, destroy all the principal of ISLAM and spread out an unstoppable religious war with each other? Do you know how many sectarian provocative organizations and parties are working on this destructive agenda?


    There are numerous.
    From SUNNI (Hanafi section) Sipa-e-Sahaba, Lashkar-e-Jhangwi, Anjuman Noujawanan-e-Islam, Jamiat-ul-Itihad-ul-Ulma, Sipa-e-Sahaba-e-Mahaz, Muthadda Sunni Council, Jeway Sunni Wing, Sunni State Organization, Sunni Tehreek and Defunctive Anjuman Sipa-e-Sahaba.

    From SUNNI (AHL-E-HADIDH) Jamiat Ulma-e-Hadidth, Itihaad Bara-e-Ahl-e-Touheed, Hadidth-ul-Muslemeen and Ahal-e-Hadith Council.

    From AHL-E-TASEEH (Fiqa-e-Jafferia) Tehreek-e-Nifaz-e-Fiqa-e-Jafferia, Lashkar-e-Muhammad, Lashkar-e-Hussainia, Imamiya Council, Imamiya Students Organizations, Hub-e-Ali Organization, Bu Taraab Society, Jafferia Council, Zain-ul-Abadein Ithad-e-Bain-ul-Muslemeen Council, Imam Bargah-e-Jafferia Trust and Lashkar-e-Karbala.


    The people of Pakistan have been suffering with the serial-killing of sectarian violence since 19 long years which cost 17,000 lives of innocents, religious, savants, students, clerics, scholars and worshipers during that chauvinism amongst the different sectarian violence supportive groups. More than 200 worship places of Muslims such as Masajids, Imam Barghas and Eid Ghas were actually blasted owing to that relentless rivalry between the militants & maniacs of the different creeds of the religion.


    Our pioneer's (Pakistan) intentions were very clear to give us such an independent country where we would perform our religious duties with free of any fear and threat by the Hindus and Sikhs. Regrettably to say we did not prove to be remained live with peace and calm in this dense Muslim populated state since our independence.


    Pakistan has now become a soft-state for the militants and extremists because everyone keeps his/her own belief and faith toward the Islam and the basic fundamentals of Islam disappeared somewhere.
    As I have mentioned in this post about the perishing of the precious lives of the people some of them were very prominent about their respective works such as; Mulana Salah Uddin, Hakeem Mohammed Sayyed, Mulana Yusuf Ludhianvi, Mufti Shmazai, Mulana Jhangvi, Mulana Azam Tariq, Mulana Malak,Mufti Jamil Khan, Mulana Hassan Nusrat, Raes Amrohwi, Moulana Hassan Seharwardi, Mohsin Naqwi, Raza Ali Abdi, and there are so many to name! ~sigh~


    When Chengaiz Khan stormed on Baghdad, he slaughtered the natives of Baghdad because they were Muslims he did not care what kind of faith and beliefs they kept either Shia or Sunni, keep in mind at that time Baghdad was also under intense fanaticism and sectarianism amongst the different sections (shia & Sunni) of the people, Manazra (Face to face challenge) and Mobahila(Verbal and literature Challenge) were common in practice, everyone was free to deliver "FATWA" against other religion and creed.


    Now tell me honestly, should we wait for any other Chengaiz Khan to come and ruin us?

    May ALLAH light and guide our ways AMEEN


    Aap ki duwayoon ka talabgaar, ek khaksaar


    ALLAH HAFIZ
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    Re: As I See It - 3 (Religious Intolrence)

    Thank you thefire1 for taking the initiative and for posting your own views. The other day I was asked by one of my uni. colleague who is a student of "history of religions" that whether I'am a sunni or shia? She has asked a very common question and for a sec. I didnt know what to say but then I replied in a very confused tone ".. a sunni muslim". ...

    Mey ney Khilafat ka thread bhi perha aur wahan per bhi mey ney jo mehsoos kiya k "hal kya hona chahiye" aur phir Mufti Azam ka khutba perha aur abhi aap ney Nabi Kareem(s.a.w) k akhri khutba ka ziker kiya jis mey bohot hi core cheezien batai gai hein hamein.

    Hijjat-ul-vida
    " Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off your goals "

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      I think your country is struggling between those content to accept an ad hoc role for Islam in the sphere of policy... And those determined to elevate Islam to the state of immutable law.



      :thmbup:

      Merey liye iss sab ka aik hi hal hai k jo cheezein common hein wo lein aur un ko follow karein aur saarey differences ko aik taraf rakh dein. Kyun k personally I feel k aap kitni bhi behas, argue, dalail ley aao lekin ye differences aap sort out nahi ker saktey ho tau behtar hai k in ko aik taraf rakh diya jaye....

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        Re: As I See It - 3 (Religious Intolrence)

        ہائے رے انگریجی کاش تو ہم پر بھی اسی قدر مہرباں ہوتی ۔ ۔ ۔
        ساقیا ہور پلا ہور پلا ہور پلا

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          Re: As I See It - 3 (Religious Intolrence)

          Originally posted by thefire1 View Post
          Assalaam-o-Alaikum

          After reading the post of Scorpion_RullZ and a comment by a very respected member.
          (If need I will try to translate that in URDU but I believe the message is very clear and everyone can read-out my itnetions)

          Now tell me honestly, should we wait for any other Chengaiz Khan to come and ruin us?
          w/salam,

          wesay to INSAAN BANO maiN maiN kuch bataiN kar chuka hooN, laikin yahaN bhi insha'Allah is hawalay say maiN apna nazariya bayan kardonga.
          That's Enough...!!

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            Re: As I See It - 3 (Religious Intolrence)

            You are most welcome Z., you have rightly said that we do not have a matured and just attitude, we keep pretending that we are muslims but our actions are totally against our words.

            Yeh bohat hi zaroori amar hay kay agar humain apnay darmyaan paida kiye gayay fasloon ko douur kar kay apnay aap ko srif aur srif MUSLAMAN kahain aur aik dosray kay aqeedoon ki izzat karain tou hum aapas main aik bohat hi khoobsurat maashray ka aghaaz kar saktay hain aur yehi meri post ka UNWAAN bhi suggest karta hay kay humain aapas main TOLERANCE ka jazba paida karna chayeh.



            Originally posted by Z. View Post
            Thank you thefire1 for taking the initiative and for posting your own views. The other day I was asked by one of my uni. colleague who is a student of "history of religions" that whether I'am a sunni or shia? She has asked a very common question and for a sec. I didnt know what to say but then I replied in a very confused tone ".. a sunni muslim". ...

            Mey ney Khilafat ka thread bhi perha aur wahan per bhi mey ney jo mehsoos kiya k "hal kya hona chahiye" aur phir Mufti Azam ka khutba perha aur abhi aap ney Nabi Kareem(s.a.w) k akhri khutba ka ziker kiya jis mey bohot hi core cheezien batai gai hein hamein.

            Hijjat-ul-vidaMerey liye iss sab ka aik hi hal hai k jo cheezein common hein wo lein aur un ko follow karein aur saarey differences ko aik taraf rakh dein. Kyun k personally I feel k aap kitni bhi behas, argue, dalail ley aao lekin ye differences aap sort out nahi ker saktey ho tau behtar hai k in ko aik taraf rakh diya jaye....

            Ameen @ your du'a
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              Re: As I See It - 3 (Religious Intolrence)

              Aap ki baat bhi thik hay, kay humain ab tak aik stable hukumat hi mil nahin saki aur afsoos tou yeh hay kay Pakistan ki azaadi kay bohat saaloon baad humain aik mukammal DASTOOR mila aur uss kay bhi hum nay tukRay tukRay kar diye....

              Humain istahkaam aur tanzeem ki zaroorat hay!!!

              Originally posted by ummid View Post



              Ab maslah yeh howa ke Muslims kaun hai??




              I think your country is struggling between those content to accept an ad hoc role for Islam in the sphere of policy... And those determined to elevate Islam to the state of immutable law.





              :thmbup:
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                Bhai aap itna tou samajh hi gayay ho gain aap kay comments meray liye bohat ahmiyat rakhtay hain, apni rayay say aagha zaroor kijye ga, shukriya

                Originally posted by aabi2cool View Post
                ہائے رے انگریجی کاش تو ہم پر بھی اسی قدر مہرباں ہوتی ۔ ۔ ۔

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                  Re: As I See It - 3 (Religious Intolrence)

                  Zaroor.... Inizaar rahay ga... shukriya

                  Originally posted by ScorpioN_RulzZ View Post
                  w/salam,

                  wesay to INSAAN BANO maiN maiN kuch bataiN kar chuka hooN, laikin yahaN bhi insha'Allah is hawalay say maiN apna nazariya bayan kardonga.
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                  • #10
                    Re: As I See It - 3 (Religious Intolrence)

                    Originally posted by thefire1 View Post
                    bhai aap itna tou samajh hi gayay ho gain aap kay comments meray liye bohat ahmiyat rakhtay hain, apni rayay say aagha zaroor kijye ga, shukriya
                    ذرہ نوازی ہے آپکی شاہ جی حقیقت یہ ہے کہ نہ تو میں اس تھریڈ میں آپکی مسلسل انگریجی کا مصرف سمجھ پایا ہوں اور نہ ہی یہ کہ میرا رپلائی کیوں ضروری ہے ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
                    ساقیا ہور پلا ہور پلا ہور پلا

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                      Re: As I See It - 3 (Religious Intolrence)

                      Assalaam-O-Alaikum

                      Hum sab aaj aisay naazuk dour say guzar rahay hain jahan log mazhab kay aqeedon ko apnay vote main izaafay kay liye istimaal kar rahay hain aur hum pasti kay aisi muqaam per gir chukay hain kay aik dosray ko apnay aqeedoon kay naam per qatal karnay say bhi nahin peechay hat-tay...

                      Aap jaisay member ka nuqta-e-nazar aur rayay say humain aik acha aur pukhta message mil sakta hay, isi liye aap ki rayay kay muntazir rehtay hain, shukriya.

                      Fi Amaan ALLAH




                      Originally posted by aabi2cool View Post
                      ذرہ نوازی ہے آپکی شاہ جی حقیقت یہ ہے کہ نہ تو میں اس تھریڈ میں آپکی مسلسل انگریجی کا مصرف سمجھ پایا ہوں اور نہ ہی یہ کہ میرا رپلائی کیوں ضروری ہے ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
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                        Re: As I See It - 3 (Religious Intolrence)

                        Originally posted by thefire1 View Post
                        assalaam-o-alaikum

                        hum sab aaj aisay naazuk dour say guzar rahay hain jahan log mazhab kay aqeedon ko apnay vote main izaafay kay liye istimaal kar rahay hain aur hum pasti kay aisi muqaam per gir chukay hain kay aik dosray ko apnay aqeedoon kay naam per qatal karnay say bhi nahin peechay hat-tay...

                        aap jaisay member ka nuqta-e-nazar aur rayay say humain aik acha aur pukhta message mil sakta hay, isi liye aap ki rayay kay muntazir rehtay hain, shukriya.

                        fi amaan allah
                        اسلام علیکم شاہ جی اگر میری رائے آپکی نظر میں اتنی ہی اہمیت کی حامل ہے تو برائے مہربانی آپ اپنی رائے کا اظہار اردو میں کیا کیجئے پھر آپ مجھ سے یہ امید رکھ سکتے ہیں کہ میں آپکی رائے `پر اپنی رائے حق یا مخالفت میں دوں ۔ ۔ آپ کو یاد ہوگا ابھی پچھلے دنوں ہی اردو زبان کے حوالے سے ہماری اور آپکی گفتگو ہوئی تھی جس پر میں نے ہم سب کے اس رویئے کی نشاندہی کی تھی کہ ہم اپنی زبان میں اظہار خیال کرنا نہ جانے کیوں معیوب سمجھتے ہیں معذرت چاہتا ہوں آپکے ٹاپک کا ستیا ناس ہوگیا میری وجہ سے والسلام
                        ساقیا ہور پلا ہور پلا ہور پلا

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                          Re: As I See It - 3 (Religious Intolrence)

                          Walaikum Assalaam abbi2cool bhai

                          Hum sab aaj aisay naazuk dour say guzar rahay hain jahan log mazhab kay aqeedon ko apnay vote main izaafay kay liye istimaal kar rahay hain aur hum pasti kay aisi muqaam per gir chukay hain kay aik dosray ko apnay aqeedoon kay naam per qatal karnay say bhi nahin peechay hat-tay...

                          Aap ki iss baaray main kia rayay hay?
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                          • #14
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                            :rose
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                            That's Enough...!!

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                              Walaikum Assalaam WR WB

                              ScorpioN_RullZ, aap ka detailed jawab paRh kar aur aap ki aala soch ko jaan kar khushi hoyee aur yaqeenan iss baat ka itminaan horaha hay kay duniya main abhi bhi POSITIVE thinker moujood hain, aap ki baat bohat waazhay aur musallima hay, ALLAH SWT say dua hay kay paRhnay waaloon kay dil main utar jayay jaisay meray dil main utri hay.

                              Aik baar phir aap ka tah-e-dil say mamnoon hoon kay aap nay aik MASBAT khyali ki taraf hum sab ki tawajoo ko markooz kia hay, khush rahyeh.

                              May ALLAH SWT light and guide our ways AMEEN

                              Fi Amaan ALLAH
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