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  • #16
    Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

    Originally posted by Barish
    kiaa humm waqt orr halaat kee saath saath apnii merzii see RELEGION maai changes laa sakkte haain?kiaa buraai
    koo ISLAM kaa part bana sakkte haain??
    Sab pehli baat to yeh keh ham ney apney mazhab mein kaun si tabdeeli hai jo nahin ki? Ham Quraan-e-Pak sey istifadah siraf
    apni mansha key mutabiq kartey hain, jo aayaat hamarey zehan key muwafiq aati hain unhein apna letey hain. Jehad iska sab
    sey badi misaal hai - kuchh ulmaa ney har us shakhs jo LA'ELAHA ILLALA na kahey uskey khilaaf jehad ka fatwa diya hai. Aur
    woh log jo kalima parh kar bhi qartoot kafiron jaisey rakhtey hain unkey khilaf fatwa nahin detey - yeh mazhab ki kaun si
    tafseer hai????
    Islam aik naee roshanee ley ker duniya key liye namudaar huwa hai. Islam aik "MODERN" nizaam ley ker hi aaya tha aisa
    nizaam jo aaj tak duniya key kam-o-besh har mulk mein raaeej hai. Duniya k jo aaj social system mila hai woh islam ka
    mutarif kardah hai, duniya ki taraqi ki rahin jis ilm per khuli hain, go uski base ancient greek key ilm per base magar
    ancient greek ka woh ilm andheron mein boseedah ho chuka tha jissey Ahl-e-Islam ney aik naee rooh bakhshi (kya us door mein
    ussey MODERN nahin kaha geya ho ga??). So tajdeed to Islam ki base hai.
    Magar iska matlab hargiz yeh nahin keh ham is mein khurafat ko shamil kar lein. Woh khurafat jo maghribi roshan'khiyali ney
    pedah kiyey hain aur jiski har raah behayaee aur bad'bakhti ki janib liyey jati hai. Aur mazhab ki roots sey door kiyey
    jati hai.

    Modernism ka matlab yeh bhi nahin keh aurat ko be'libas kar diya jaey, aisey jaisey aaj europe mein aurat ko uryani ka
    symbol bnaa diya geya hai. Main ney apni aik tehreer "Bolo Ji Tum Kya Kya Kharedo Ge" mein iska hawala diya hai keh ham aaj
    kal un ko modern samajhtey jahan larkiyaan aur larkey behoodah music ki ley per apney jismon ko lehratey phirrein.
    Dar'haqeeqt yeh us POSH tabqey ki aik bhiyanak tasweer hai jahan per aisa karna koi mayoob nahin samjha jata.
    Allama Muhammad Iqbal ney farmaya tha keh "AAZADI-e-UFKAAR HAI SHAITAN KI AEJAD". Jab insaan ki fiker har band sey aazad ho
    jati hai to wahan per khurafaat ko modernism samjha jata hai. Main aaj bhi jab koi music concert dekhta hoon to mujhey
    wahan per naachti hui larkiyaan kisi paisha'war naachney wali auraton sey ziyada nahin lagtin. Aur meri soch jaisa keh main
    ney Bolo Ji Tum Kya Kya Khareedo Ge mein kaha tha: "kabhi yun sar-e-aam nachna kanjron ka karobaar samjha jata tha, aaj
    muhazzab gharano ki larkiyaan naach rahi hain". Agar yeh modernism hai to lanaat hai aisey modernism per!
    Originally posted by Barish
    Kiiya app iss Roshan Khiyali orr Modernism see agree haain jisse Musharraf Uncle appnee tarz maai define n
    elaborate kerrte haain???
    Baat yeh hai keh ham log bohat ziyada aazad ho gaey hain. Ham ney apney mulk ki aazadi ki hifazat, apni ana ki aazadi ki
    hifazat karney ki bjaey aazadi ko ghalt maano mein istimaal karna shuru kar diya hai. Maghribi mumalik sey DOLLERS ki
    imdaad hasil karney key liye apney aap ko dao per lgaa diya hai. Dolat mein badi taqat hai, yeh eeman tak khareed leti hai
    aur hukmraan tabqah to hamesha hi sey eeman bechta chala aaya hai. Afsos to yeh hai keh main ney awam ki satah per bhi
    logon ko apna eeman beechtey dekha hai. Ham aik maflook-ul-zehan qom hain Barish, hamari tabahi hamarey apney hathon ho gi.
    tumharey bas mein agar ho to bhool jao mujhey
    tumhein bhulaney mein shayid mujhey zamana lagey

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    • #17
      Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

      Originally posted by Barish
      Walikum Assalam!

      Pasandeedgii kee liiye shukkriia!









      Thx 4 ur comments!
      Khush Rahiyye!
      AOA,

      Haqomat ki apni soch hai lakin agar awaam us pe razi na ho to wo kahse mosallat kar sakte hain hum he iss soch ko apne aap pe musallat karne daite hain aksiriyat iss baat ko guftagu main nain lati aur rahyi baat media iss main achi chezain b hain aur bori b to hum borayi ki janaab he kion barrte hum khud ko na daikhian ilzaam us cheez pe de dain jise hum khud chala rahye hain media chalata kon hai chalne kon daita hai daikhta parrta sonta kon hai hum to har jaga humhe hum nazaar ate hain aur kharaab kon ho raha hai wo b hum he hain to hamain deeno dunya dono rakhni hain iss liye na to hum tarke dunya kar sakte hain na sirf dunya k ho sakte hain hamain ahtadaal se kaam lain na ho ga ye he moshkal hai dunya main hum main sab se barri ghalti hai tankeed baraye tankeed jo k kisi b sorat main theek nain hum dunya se larrne k liye taiyaar b nain hain na wasayail hain to humain daikh k kaam laina ho ga aur apne ird gird k mahool ko deen k kareeb lana ho ga iss tara k intahapanadi na ayi aur wo miyanarawi b ho .


      Sohail Abbasi.
      Apna haq ada karo.

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      • #18
        Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

        Assalaam o alaikum
        Rishan khyaal aur modern ALLAH k karam say aik musalmaan hota hay agar modernism aur roshan khyaali ka matlab bardaasht sabar aur jadeediyat ki raah pay chalna hay to bilkul hota hay. jaisa k burg e gul nay ooper sabb kuch bata dia hay laikin, uncle musharraf jo baat kar rahay haiN wo uss culture aur uss k saath aanay wali tamaam aalaaeshaiN jin say aaj khud west nabard aazma hay un ko pakistan maiN mutaarif karwaya jaayai. jahaaN tak media policies ka taaluq hay to wazeh taur pay pakistan k media ko bay lagaam chora gya hay k jo kuch hay jahaaN say milta hay dikhao.jisay kehtay haiN k sarkaari sarparasti maiN sabb kuch ho raha hay aayai din kuch sarr phiray akhbaraat maiN hukamraanoN ko yaad dilaatay rehtay haiN k uncle aap iss silsilay maiN apni zimmay daari sahi taur say nahi nibhaa rahay aur siwaayai kuch logoN k koi iss ko sahi nahi kehta aur na hi iss say khush hay issi wajah say pakistan maiN do channel full time islamic transmission day rahay haiN aur unn ki viewership maiN rozana k hisaab say tarraqqi ho rahi hay...
        Ulmaa e kiraam k hawalay say b yai kehna chahooN ga ulmaa e haqq nay b iss k khilaaf mooassar awaz uThaee hay laikin hakoomat k kaanooN pay jooN takk nahi reengi.
        Akhir maiN yai hi hay k apnay aap ko acha kar laiN apnay dil maiN bardaasht sabar aur doosroN ka ehtaraam DaalaiN aur apnay bazurgoN k naqshay qadam pay chaltay huay apnay kutab khaanoN ko tarraqqi daiN paRhnay ki aadat banaayaiN aur bohat zarori apnay ustdoN ki bohat izzat karaiN to kuch tabdeel ho ga..
        Wassalaam
        Raza Baykamal
        Last edited by baykamal; 12 December 2005, 08:49.

        kyoN RAZA mushkil say Dariay----jabb nabi S.A.W mushkil kusha ho

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        • #19
          Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

          Main jald hi replies karoon gi...

          sorry 4 late replies

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          • #20
            Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

            Originally posted by tauseeftariq
            modernism.... sirf khawaten ke libaas main kiyon? why not in science and technology

            1.
            ek kadwi aur sachi baat khoon ... humari NGO's aur "so called hig soctiey" key nazdeek tu

            modernism yeh hai ke ladkiyon kum kum kapdey pehnain.. jis ladky ke sath ghomin
            ...... aur "jo chai kerin" .. agher jo un sub batoon ok bura khey tu BAckward hai
            aur jo yeh kaam kery woh mode hai

            mujey samjh nahin ataa hamara modrenism sirf ladkiyon ,fashion Music aur co edutction,
            valentin day etc......... tek hi kiyon mehdoodh hai
            kiya hum kisi technology main aghey bahdnay ka sochty hain? Computer filed main
            koi teer mara hai hum nain ?,,,, agher nahin tu phir yeh Modernism kis liey hai
            kiya aur sey us ke haiya chenain ke liey yeh modrenism banaa hai

            aur ladkiyan shaid as baat per mujh sey agree kerin ge .. Jo ladkiyan ziyda mode hoti hai
            sub sey ziyda Filart , dhoka, un he ke saath hoty hain .. even un ki izzat mehfoz nahin
            rehti..... ladky un ko sir "time paas" samjthy hain ..
            un mode ladkiyon ke haqeet tu main sirf ek waaqey sey biayn ker saktaa hoon ,, jo
            pakistan main howa .. aur mode city islamabad main .. but sirf ishara ker reha hon
            Rules and regulation ke wajaa sey khul ker nahin kahoon gaa....

            tu jab modernism khud aurt ka buraa hall ker detaa hai aur humara modrenism sirf
            aurt aur lakdi tek mehdoo hai tu phir us ka kiya fidaa??

            2.
            jo bhi cheez islam key against ho woh chahey dekhnin main kitni bhi achi lagi haaqeet main bhut badi buri hai aur haum us ko nahin tasleem kerty

            3.
            president mushraf ke adhi batin sir sayasi biyan hotey hain .. "just to show others"
            ...lehaaza sara ilzam un ko dena bhi dursat nahin
            humara media bhi as ka zimdar hai ......

            Finaly agher modrein ism ya roshin khiyali sirf aurt ke had tek hain tu hum ko nahin chahiya ....... agher technlogy main ho tu most welcome........

            a thujh ko batoon main tarik e immum kiya hai
            shemsher o sana awal tawos o rubab akhir

            1.Hum modernism ko sirf be-hayaai k terz mai hi discuss kerte hain





            2.100% agreed!





            Thx 4 ur comments!

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            • #21
              Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

              Originally posted by Brijinder
              Hi Friends,
              I am a sikh by birth by just a human being by choice.I have decided not to take the crutches of religion to justify all my weaknesses.This freedom to stand on one's own feet is not easy,believe me.This entails huge responsibilty as then one is responsible for all of his/her actions.
              Comparitive study has been my passion.I have studies various religions-not just one book on each.And I have found that each religion is unique and has unique insights to offer.It is just our condtioning that makes us believe that the religion of our birth is the greatest.That is a very stereotypical view of the people who refuse to take the challange of adventure with the ideas.Also each religion has generated its own weaknesses .And it applies to all the religions,including the religion of my birth.
              I request you all to give yourselves the wings and explore the unchartded terrotories of mind n soul.Don't deny this beautiful adventure by putting shackles to your own feet.
              Hope I am understood in the right spirit.
              Brijinder"Sagar'
              Hi brijindar bhai!





              Thx 4 xpressing ur

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              • #22
                Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

                Originally posted by Masood
                Sab pehli baat to yeh keh ham ney apney mazhab mein kaun si tabdeeli hai jo nahin ki? Ham Quraan-e-Pak sey istifadah siraf
                apni mansha key mutabiq kartey hain, jo aayaat hamarey zehan key muwafiq aati hain unhein apna letey hain. Jehad iska sab
                sey badi misaal hai - kuchh ulmaa ney har us shakhs jo LA'ELAHA ILLALA na kahey uskey khilaaf jehad ka fatwa diya hai. Aur
                woh log jo kalima parh kar bhi qartoot kafiron jaisey rakhtey hain unkey khilaf fatwa nahin detey - yeh mazhab ki kaun si
                tafseer hai????
                Islam aik naee roshanee ley ker duniya key liye namudaar huwa hai. Islam aik "MODERN" nizaam ley ker hi aaya tha aisa
                nizaam jo aaj tak duniya key kam-o-besh har mulk mein raaeej hai. Duniya k jo aaj social system mila hai woh islam ka
                mutarif kardah hai, duniya ki taraqi ki rahin jis ilm per khuli hain, go uski base ancient greek key ilm per base magar
                ancient greek ka woh ilm andheron mein boseedah ho chuka tha jissey Ahl-e-Islam ney aik naee rooh bakhshi (kya us door mein
                ussey MODERN nahin kaha geya ho ga??). So tajdeed to Islam ki base hai.
                Magar iska matlab hargiz yeh nahin keh ham is mein khurafat ko shamil kar lein. Woh khurafat jo maghribi roshan'khiyali ney
                pedah kiyey hain aur jiski har raah behayaee aur bad'bakhti ki janib liyey jati hai. Aur mazhab ki roots sey door kiyey
                jati hai.


                Modernism ka matlab yeh bhi nahin keh aurat ko be'libas kar diya jaey, aisey jaisey aaj europe mein aurat ko uryani ka
                symbol bnaa diya geya hai. Main ney apni aik tehreer "Bolo Ji Tum Kya Kya Kharedo Ge" mein iska hawala diya hai keh ham aaj
                kal un ko modern samajhtey jahan larkiyaan aur larkey behoodah music ki ley per apney jismon ko lehratey phirrein.
                Dar'haqeeqt yeh us POSH tabqey ki aik bhiyanak tasweer hai jahan per aisa karna koi mayoob nahin samjha jata.
                Allama Muhammad Iqbal ney farmaya tha keh "AAZADI-e-UFKAAR HAI SHAITAN KI AEJAD". Jab insaan ki fiker har band sey aazad ho
                jati hai to wahan per khurafaat ko modernism samjha jata hai. Main aaj bhi jab koi music concert dekhta hoon to mujhey
                wahan per naachti hui larkiyaan kisi paisha'war naachney wali auraton sey ziyada nahin lagtin. Aur meri soch jaisa keh main
                ney Bolo Ji Tum Kya Kya Khareedo Ge mein kaha tha: "kabhi yun sar-e-aam nachna kanjron ka karobaar samjha jata tha, aaj
                muhazzab gharano ki larkiyaan naach rahi hain". Agar yeh modernism hai to lanaat hai aisey modernism per!

                Baat yeh hai keh ham log bohat ziyada aazad ho gaey hain. Ham ney apney mulk ki aazadi ki hifazat, apni ana ki aazadi ki
                hifazat karney ki bjaey aazadi ko ghalt maano mein istimaal karna shuru kar diya hai. Maghribi mumalik sey DOLLERS ki
                imdaad hasil karney key liye apney aap ko dao per lgaa diya hai. Dolat mein badi taqat hai, yeh eeman tak khareed leti hai
                aur hukmraan tabqah to hamesha hi sey eeman bechta chala aaya hai. Afsos to yeh hai keh main ney awam ki satah per bhi
                logon ko apna eeman beechtey dekha hai. Ham aik maflook-ul-zehan qom hain Barish, hamari tabahi hamarey apney hathon ho gi.
                Thx 4 such a detailed discussion!






                Pakistan male dominating society hone k sath sath ab ik MODERN COUNTRY bhi ho gaya


                Hum se hi society banti hai to humin chahiye k roshan khiyali k saee matlab ko samajhne ki koshish Karin or is modernism se perhaiz Karin!

                Thx 4 ur comments! KHUSH RAHIIYE AP!

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                • #23
                  Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

                  Originally posted by khan
                  AOA,

                  Haqomat ki apni soch hai lakin agar awaam us pe razi na ho to wo kahse mosallat kar sakte hain hum he iss soch ko apne aap pe musallat karne daite hain aksiriyat iss baat ko guftagu main nain lati aur rahyi baat media iss main achi chezain b hain aur bori b to hum borayi ki janaab he kion barrte hum khud ko na daikhian ilzaam us cheez pe de dain jise hum khud chala rahye hain media chalata kon hai chalne kon daita hai daikhta parrta sonta kon hai hum to har jaga humhe hum nazaar ate hain aur kharaab kon ho raha hai wo b hum he hain to hamain deeno dunya dono rakhni hain iss liye na to hum tarke dunya kar sakte hain na sirf dunya k ho sakte hain hamain ahtadaal se kaam lain na ho ga ye he moshkal hai dunya main hum main sab se barri ghalti hai tankeed baraye tankeed jo k kisi b sorat main theek nain hum dunya se larrne k liye taiyaar b nain hain na wasayail hain to humain daikh k kaam laina ho ga aur apne ird gird k mahool ko deen k kareeb lana ho ga iss tara k intahapanadi na ayi aur wo miyanarawi b ho .


                  Sohail Abbasi.
                  Walikum Assalam!






                  Per aj kal hum dunya main ziada gumm hain or akhrat ki fiker bhulaa chuke hain

                  Thx 4 discussion!

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                  • #24
                    Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

                    Originally posted by baykamal
                    Assalaam o alaikum
                    Rishan khyaal aur modern ALLAH k karam say aik musalmaan hota hay agar modernism aur roshan khyaali ka matlab bardaasht sabar aur jadeediyat ki raah pay chalna hay to bilkul hota hay. jaisa k burg e gul nay ooper sabb kuch bata dia hay laikin, uncle musharraf jo baat kar rahay haiN wo uss culture aur uss k saath aanay wali tamaam aalaaeshaiN jin say aaj khud west nabard aazma hay un ko pakistan maiN mutaarif karwaya jaayai. jahaaN tak media policies ka taaluq hay to wazeh taur pay pakistan k media ko bay lagaam chora gya hay k jo kuch hay jahaaN say milta hay dikhao.jisay kehtay haiN k sarkaari sarparasti maiN sabb kuch ho raha hay aayai din kuch sarr phiray akhbaraat maiN hukamraanoN ko yaad dilaatay rehtay haiN k uncle aap iss silsilay maiN apni zimmay daari sahi taur say nahi nibhaa rahay aur siwaayai kuch logoN k koi iss ko sahi nahi kehta aur na hi iss say khush hay issi wajah say pakistan maiN do channel full time islamic transmission day rahay haiN aur unn ki viewership maiN rozana k hisaab say tarraqqi ho rahi hay...
                    Ulmaa e kiraam k hawalay say b yai kehna chahooN ga ulmaa e haqq nay b iss k khilaaf mooassar awaz uThaee hay laikin hakoomat k kaanooN pay jooN takk nahi reengi.
                    Akhir maiN yai hi hay k apnay aap ko acha kar laiN apnay dil maiN bardaasht sabar aur doosroN ka ehtaraam DaalaiN aur apnay bazurgoN k naqshay qadam pay chaltay huay apnay kutab khaanoN ko tarraqqi daiN paRhnay ki aadat banaayaiN aur bohat zarori apnay ustdoN ki bohat izzat karaiN to kuch tabdeel ho ga..
                    Wassalaam
                    Raza Baykamal
                    Walikum Assalam!





                    Ji humin khud hi apne liye kuch krna chahiye!
                    Or jitna ho sakie burayon se door hone ki koshish kerni chahiye!

                    Thx 4 discussion!

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                    • #25
                      Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

                      Originally posted by Barish
                      Walikum Assalam!






                      Per aj kal hum dunya main ziada gumm hain or akhrat ki fiker bhulaa chuke hain

                      Thx 4 discussion!

                      AOA,

                      Aap ki baat se mutafiq hoon issi pe koch likha tha main nain k pahle aik bacha ghar late ata to walidain pochte kahan the aj nain pochte wo iss liye k walid khud ghar main nain hota bohat achi baat ki aap nain k yahan samajdari waqt se pahle a gaiyi hai kia humara farz nain k un ko wo dikhain jo unhain daikhna chaye lakin hamare paas bachoon k liye waqt he kahan raha ye aik alaag baihs hai asal masla jo hai roshan khiyali ka hai hum iss main iss qadar na kho jain k gumrah ho jain aur tark na kar dain k intaha ko hawa dain bas itni si baat hai dil main. aap ka bohat shukria.


                      Sohail Abbasi.
                      Apna haq ada karo.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

                        Originally posted by khan
                        AOA,

                        Aap ki baat se mutafiq hoon issi pe koch likha tha main nain k pahle aik bacha ghar late ata to walidain pochte kahan the aj nain pochte wo iss liye k walid khud ghar main nain hota bohat achi baat ki aap nain k yahan samajdari waqt se pahle a gaiyi hai kia humara farz nain k un ko wo dikhain jo unhain daikhna chaye lakin hamare paas bachoon k liye waqt he kahan raha ye aik alaag baihs hai asal masla jo hai roshan khiyali ka hai hum iss main iss qadar na kho jain k gumrah ho jain aur tark na kar dain k intaha ko hawa dain bas itni si baat hai dil main. aap ka bohat shukria.


                        Sohail Abbasi.
                        Walikum Assalam!

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                        • #27
                          Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

                          thanx barish for such detial review of my comments thanks
                          Last edited by tauseeftariq; 17 December 2005, 20:12.
                          Zaid Hammid on Sawat War..
                          A must Watch..

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                          • #28
                            Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

                            Originally posted by tauseeftariq
                            thanx barish for such detial review of my comments thanks
                            np.com is here:cc:

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                            • #29
                              Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

                              Originally posted by Barish
                              Walikum Assalam!


                              Barish boht acha topic hey lekin kia aisay behs o mubahsay kernay se hum muhashray mein koi tabdeeli la payein gay?
                              sub sathiyon ki araa ko mein ne boht ghaur se perha aur ittefaq bhi kerti hoon.Tauseef saahb, Masood saahb, bekamal saahb aur deeger tmam doston k khyalat se behra mand hui hon. Masood ki iss bat se mein ittefaq kerti hoon k hum logon ne islam ko PICK AND CHOOSE ki kitab bna liya hey, jo cheez humari muhashrati zaroorat k sath match kerti hey ussay hum bakhushi man letay hein aur jo cheez humein burai se rokti hey uss mein hum mslay kureednay lagtay hein k kisi trah se hum haram ko halal sabet ker lein......................aaj modernism k jis daur se hum guzer rahay hein wo humari fitrat k mutabiq hey yehni burai mein kahsish nazar aati hey to hum ussi ki traf khichtay chalay jatay hein, nafs ko hum ne azaad chorr diya hey, iss k zimedar hakoomat aur media hi nhi hey HUM LOG KHUD bhi hein, humaray ulmaye karaam bhi hein. ager media burai ki jarr hey to humaray gharon mein cable ya sky dishes hakoomat to aa ker nhi lagati na? bachay khud ja ker to cable aur dish order nhi kertay na? pata nhi kon zimedar hey? har koi to apna daman bachata nazar aata hey to phir zimedar kon hey? hum apnay greeban chorr ker doosron k gharon mein jhanknay k aadi hotay ja rahay hein, apna muhasiba kerna nhi chahtay lekin yeh chahtay hein k muhashra sudher jaye....to sochiye jub har koi aisa sochta hey to phir qasoorwar kon hey? Aaj ager meray ghar mein cable lagi hey to meray bachon ka iss mein kia qasoor hey? qasoor to mera hey na jis ne cable lagwai hey. Ager mein namaz nhi perhti, rozay nhi rakhti, Allah k bandon k haqooq pooray nhi kerti, sara din cable k channels dekhti hoon to apnay bachon ko kaisay keh skti hoon k TV dekhna aap k liye acha nhi hey, aap naik amal karo...........HUM log zabani batein kernay k aadi ho gaye hein amal nam ki cheez hum mein nhi hey to phir humaray bachay khrab kiyun nah hon? Hum kiyun ker un se yeh tawaqoh rakh sktay hein k wo aik ACHAY MUSALMAN banein jub k khud hum mein musalmano wali koi bat hi nhi hey.
                              Mein ma'azrat k sath kehna chahun gi k aaj k ulmaye karaam woh hein jo khud to pakkay aursachay musalman honay ka dawa kertay hein lekin masajid mein doosray firqon per tanqeed kerna bhi apna deeni fareeza samjhtay hein, mein kuch din pehlay yehan aik topic shiroo kernay wali thi k KIS ALIM E DEEN KO FOLLOW KIA JAYE? lekin yeh aik intehai nazuk sa mozoo hey, humaray ulmaye deen jin ko deen ki zimedari sonpi gai hey lekin unhon ne awaam ko iss qader shash o punj mein daal rakha hey k unhein samjh nhi aati k kis ki baat sahee hey aur kis ki nhi, kis ko chorrain aur kis ki pairvi karein, aap mein se boht se sathi yeh soch rahay hon gay k pairvi to sirf QURAN O SUNNAT ki ki jani chahiye, to quran aur sunnat ko parhna aik alag bat hey aur har maslay ki sharaee rooh janena aik alag bat hey jis ki zimedari ulmaye deen per hey k wo la ilm logon mein ilm phailayein lekin afsos hey aaj har koi apnay frayez se rugardani ker raha hey.
                              Sach ka qatra qatra karrwa hey jo sunenay se hi halaq mein talakhi see peda ker deta hey iss liye ager meri kisi bat se kisi ko takleef pohnchi ho to mein peshagi ma'azrat chahti hoon.

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                                Re: Modernism & Roshan Khiyali?

                                Originally posted by Muskan
                                Barish boht acha topic hey lekin kia aisay behs o mubahsay kernay se hum muhashray mein koi tabdeeli la payein gay?
                                sub sathiyon ki araa ko mein ne boht ghaur se perha aur ittefaq bhi kerti hoon..



                                *hum AWARE nahi hain aware in the sense k humin ye hi nahi pata k








                                I think in the same way as u r thinking!

                                Thx 4 ur precious rai
                                KHUSH RAHIYYE!

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