Mubahisa IV: Iik orr qissm kii AURAAT......?

[Shaim]

Re: Iik orr qissm kii AURAAT......?

khiyal batin aur haqeeqat pasandi....

kihayali batin aur lafazi tu bhut ho sakti hai per main gruoud realitis (zameni haqaaiq) ke baat keroon ga
1. humain sub sey phely yeh dekhna chahiya tawafin ati khaan sa hain
ans.. jo "loog" khooton per apni "ratin" guzarty hain .. un ke jab betiyan hot hain tu woh
un ko bhi waheen chood dety hain .. natija woh ladki becahri us mahol main usi tarh
dhaal jati hai kabhi anjany toor per kahbi kisi ke jaber per..
aur sub sey zilat ke baat yah hai ke wohi baap jab kuch arsaa baad ataa hai tu "bran new"
ladki ke talaaash main apni hi beti ke azaat ko pamal ker detaa hai..
kuch ladkyon ko agwaah ker key by force bhi tawaif banaa diya jataa hai ...
aur un kaamon main kai groh shamal hain ...

2. dosri baat yah hai ke kiya hum mazeed ladkyon ko "tawaif " banin sey rook sakty hain
humry system me .. ans bhut mushakla hai sirf koshis ke ja sakti hai
3. jo tawaifin hain un ke liey hum kiya ker satky hain?
ans .. sirf un tawaifoon ke liye app kuch ker satky hain jo us mahool sey nikalnaa chahiyan.. per bhi yeh Mashra un ko adjst hony dey bhut mushkal hai

sub problems ka asaan hal hai jo izaat aur maqoom aurt ko islam nain diya hai woh samjh lien sub tu yeh subkuch na hoo..
per shid loog samjhaa nahin chaty... even khud ladkiyan... jo modren honain ke naam per
woh kuch ker jati hain jo ke tawaif sey bahd ker hotaa hai
per choon ke woh "hig scotiy" ko belong kerti hain as liya un ke izaat per ko daag nahin padhataa

Main dil sy duaa kertaa hoon ke ALLAH hum sub ko aurt ka sahi muqaam aur us ka haaq denay ke tofeeq dey..

Perr humm koshish bhii naahii kerrte????orr yaahii woo massla haai jisski waaja see din ba din naa jaanee kitnii lerkian kuch hii pal maii biknee kii cheez bann jaati hain






Thx again

[Shaim]

Re: Iik orr qissm kii AURAAT......?

AOA,

Ji aap nain baat ji hai aurat aur tawaif ji to baat sabat hai k do mokhtalif batain hain aurat naam hai hayaa ka aur tawaif aik khiloona choonke ye bohat hassas topic hai iss liye likhne se pahle das martaba sochna parrta hai sawal banaya kis nain kahse to mokhtalif halaat hain main aap ko aik misaal paish karta hoon aik se main nain pocha k aap ahsa kion karte ho to kahne lagi k kia karoon meri parrhayi b hai chote bahain bahi b hain un ka kharcha kahan se laoon main nain kaha k agar tumhare sab akhrajaat pore ho jain to uss ka jawab barra sada k phir usse kia zaroorat hai issi tara bohat si mialain hain un ka rahain saihain sab koch alaag hai aur har aik ki majbori alaag hai lakin mazil takrebaan aik main koshish karoon ga k aik aik sawaal ki wazahat karoon had aur adaab k daire main rahte hoye.


Sohail Abbasi.

Walikum Assalam!

Tawaiif koo khillonaa samjhaa too jaata haai perr koon haii joo unhee khiloona banaa deete hai?



Majboorii koo badnaam kiaa jaataa haai koii iss hadd taakk majboor naahi hoota naa hi koi isss hadd takk kiise koo majboor kerrta haii




Thx 4 co-operation

[Shaim]

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Aur yehi haal European countries ka bhi hai (reference BBC News Website).

[tauseeftariq]

Re: Iik orr qissm kii AURAAT......?

Spy009 ke baat key kuch ladkiyan khud yeh sub kerti hain,,

i dont think so ke yeh pakistan ke socitey ker bary main true hai.. singpor ,europ etc
ke hud tek tu yeh bat sahi hai.. kiyon ke whan ab social values baqi nahin .. aur ladkiyon
ka as tarah sey pasia kmana koi bura nahin ho gaa wahn ke ledkiyon ke khiyal main..
per ek important baat hai woh apni merzi sey yeh sub kerti hain.. jab chahin chode dein
.. jab koi achaa partner mil jay tu woh chode bhi sakti hain .. per pakistan main aisa nahin ker sakti koi tawaif

aur koi pakistani ya muslim ladki aisa kernaa pasaand nahin kerti .. Ek ladki ke khwahish hoti ke ke woh achy sahkis ke saath apni zindig guzarey .. her ladki yeh khwab dekhti hai.... agher pakistan main aisi ladkiyan hon bhi jo khud apni merzi sey yeh kam kerti hain tu bhut kam taddad main ..

and Barish app nai jo lkehaa hai key
hum kosish bhi nahin ker saktay kiya ? tu yes koshis kerni chahiye agher hum main sey koi kisi ladki ko as cheez sey bacha ley tu bhut achaa hai
per ek khaas baat hai ke yeh karoobar bahd rehaa hai
aur Resoan hai .. Media per her taraf ..sey nojawanoon ko ek cheez hi mil rahi hai
indian movies .. kiya humara apna media bhi ab apni haidn cross kertaa ja rhaa hai
result nojwan ladky .. buraa aser lety hain .. Shadi per humray han intney kharchy hain
aur jab tek "ladka" set na ho jay "sahdi" nahin hot tu .. phir nojawan.......... as rah per chalty hain.. woh app ko khotoon per nazar aty hain
as lieye ab demand........ziyda hai so.. karobar badh reha hai

her insaan ko apny tu per koshis kerni chahiye un sub chezon ko roknain ke..
ALLAH humary haall per reham kerey

[Shaim]

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Spy009 ke baat key kuch ladkiyan khud yeh sub kerti hain,,

i dont think so ke yeh pakistan ke socitey ker bary main true hai.. singpor ,europ etc
ke hud tek tu yeh bat sahi hai.. kiyon ke whan ab social values baqi nahin .. aur ladkiyon
ka as tarah sey pasia kmana koi bura nahin ho gaa wahn ke ledkiyon ke khiyal main..
per ek important baat hai woh apni merzi sey yeh sub kerti hain.. jab chahin chode dein
.. jab koi achaa partner mil jay tu woh chode bhi sakti hain .. per pakistan main aisa nahin ker sakti koi tawaif

aur koi pakistani ya muslim ladki aisa kernaa pasaand nahin kerti .. Ek ladki ke khwahish hoti ke ke woh achy sahkis ke saath apni zindig guzarey .. her ladki yeh khwab dekhti hai.... agher pakistan main aisi ladkiyan hon bhi jo khud apni merzi sey yeh kam kerti hain tu bhut kam taddad main ..

and Barish app nai jo lkehaa hai key
hum kosish bhi nahin ker saktay kiya ? tu yes koshis kerni chahiye agher hum main sey koi kisi ladki ko as cheez sey bacha ley tu bhut achaa hai
per ek khaas baat hai ke yeh karoobar bahd rehaa hai
aur Resoan hai .. Media per her taraf ..sey nojawanoon ko ek cheez hi mil rahi hai
indian movies .. kiya humara apna media bhi ab apni haidn cross kertaa ja rhaa hai
result nojwan ladky .. buraa aser lety hain .. Shadi per humray han intney kharchy hain
aur jab tek "ladka" set na ho jay "sahdi" nahin hot tu .. phir nojawan.......... as rah per chalty hain.. woh app ko khotoon per nazar aty hain
as lieye ab demand........ziyda hai so.. karobar badh reha hai

her insaan ko apny tu per koshis kerni chahiye un sub chezon ko roknain ke..
ALLAH humary haall per reham kerey

[tauseeftariq]

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media can change values ..

khair yeh tu bewaqofi wali baat hai key jo loog media ko zamedar nahin matney.
aj kal ke bachy bachy .. woh batin discuss ker rehy hoty hain jo kuch arsaa phely even youn log bhi discus nahin kerty thy..
khiar bury kerdar ke ladkiyon ke waja sey un ladkiyon ko nuksan hotaa hai jo
education ke leiy gher sey bahir jana chatin hain .. per jin girls ka kisaa Barish nain lekhaa hia
as tarah ke ledkiyon sey .. shareef ladkiyon ke liey mushkilat bahd rahi hain

[Spy009]

Re: Iik orr qissm kii AURAAT......?

Spy009 ke baat key kuch ladkiyan khud yeh sub kerti hain,,

i dont think so ke yeh pakistan ke socitey ker bary main true hai.. singpor ,europ etc
ke hud tek tu yeh bat sahi hai.. kiyon ke whan ab social values baqi nahin .. aur ladkiyon
ka as tarah sey pasia kmana koi bura nahin ho gaa wahn ke ledkiyon ke khiyal main..
per ek important baat hai woh apni merzi sey yeh sub kerti hain.. jab chahin chode dein
.. jab koi achaa partner mil jay tu woh chode bhi sakti hain .. per pakistan main aisa nahin ker sakti koi tawaif

aur koi pakistani ya muslim ladki aisa kernaa pasaand nahin kerti .. Ek ladki ke khwahish hoti ke ke woh achy sahkis ke saath apni zindig guzarey .. her ladki yeh khwab dekhti hai.... agher pakistan main aisi ladkiyan hon bhi jo khud apni merzi sey yeh kam kerti hain tu bhut kam taddad main ..

and Barish app nai jo lkehaa hai key
hum kosish bhi nahin ker saktay kiya ? tu yes koshis kerni chahiye agher hum main sey koi kisi ladki ko as cheez sey bacha ley tu bhut achaa hai
per ek khaas baat hai ke yeh karoobar bahd rehaa hai
aur Resoan hai .. Media per her taraf ..sey nojawanoon ko ek cheez hi mil rahi hai
indian movies .. kiya humara apna media bhi ab apni haidn cross kertaa ja rhaa hai
result nojwan ladky .. buraa aser lety hain .. Shadi per humray han intney kharchy hain
aur jab tek "ladka" set na ho jay "sahdi" nahin hot tu .. phir nojawan.......... as rah per chalty hain.. woh app ko khotoon per nazar aty hain
as lieye ab demand........ziyda hai so.. karobar badh reha hai

her insaan ko apny tu per koshis kerni chahiye un sub chezon ko roknain ke..
ALLAH humary haall per reham kerey

Jee janab Pak ek muslim coutnry hai, shayad wahan aisa nahin hota hoga, what I replied in above thread that the most important reasons is that fashion, advanced culture and money, girls apne aap ko zyadah khubsoorat dekhna chahti hai, and many more reasons you will know if you 'go through' metropolitan discussion

[khurram_shaikh]

Re: Iik orr qissm kii AURAAT......?

W salaam,


Barish bahooot hi nazuk taar chheraa hai aapnien humaari society humaare muashre kaa main abhi koee zeyaadaa nahin likh rahaa sirf perh rahaa hun aur mujhe spy ki iss baat se kaafi hud tak ittefaaq hai haan mujhe kahin aur kaa to nahin pataa lekin mumbai ko jitnien qareeb se mainien dekhaa hai utne qareeb se yehaan kisi nien bhi nahin dekhaa hoogaa to main aapko mumbai ke mutalliq kuch bataaongaa Inshaah Allaah khaas taur se college girls ke mutalliq

[tauseeftariq]

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W salaam,


Barish bahooot hi nazuk taar chheraa hai aapnien humaari society humaare muashre kaa main abhi koee zeyaadaa nahin likh rahaa sirf perh rahaa hun aur mujhe spy ki iss baat se kaafi hud tak ittefaaq hai haan mujhe kahin aur kaa to nahin pataa lekin mumbai ko jitnien qareeb se mainien dekhaa hai utne qareeb se yehaan kisi nien bhi nahin dekhaa hoogaa to main aapko mumbai ke mutalliq kuch bataaongaa Inshaah Allaah khaas taur se college girls ke mutalliq

humm.. but apni merizi sey kerna.. aur zaberdesti karwana 2 allag chezin hain .. and there is diffrece in "call girls" and "tawaifs"

i think app india ke bary main sahi baat ker rehy hoo .. per jo ladkiyon zati tur per yeh kaam kerti hain (call girls) hum un ko tawaif ke saath compare nahin ker satky..
tawaif tu kuch loogon ke under kaam ker rehi hoti hai aur woh yeh kaam
chodna bhi chahey tu nahin chode sakti ,, because of pressuer and threatrs

college girls agher na kerna chahing tu koi pressuer nahin..

wasey pakistan main bhi kuch grooh "call girls " .. provide kerty hain
yahn bhi kuch ladkiyan "apni merzi" sey ass tarah paisa kamati hain.. per.. bhut ziyda nahin per kuch tadaad hai aisa loogon
.... per jo ladkiyan mujbri sey un chakroon main pahns jati hain un ke lieye
kuch kernaa chahiya,,, jab bhi kisi ko muqaa miley
oks,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Shaim]

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media can change values ..

khair yeh tu bewaqofi wali baat hai key jo loog media ko zamedar nahin matney.
aj kal ke bachy bachy .. woh batin discuss ker rehy hoty hain jo kuch arsaa phely even youn log bhi discus nahin kerty thy..
khiar bury kerdar ke ladkiyon ke waja sey un ladkiyon ko nuksan hotaa hai jo
education ke leiy gher sey bahir jana chatin hain .. per jin girls ka kisaa Barish nain lekhaa hia
as tarah ke ledkiyon sey .. shareef ladkiyon ke liey mushkilat bahd rahi hain

Loogoon kaa nazaryya yee haii kee qasoor media kaa nahii hamarrii soochh kaa haii jabb kee yee kehhnna totally rong haaii kiyoon kee jabb buraii koo appkee sammnee open kerr kee tray maai diyya jatta haii too app dekhnee lagte hoo (not all the ppl,but talking abt majority)
Jii high society kii wajja see too taqreeban herr mamlee maai lower n middle society koo buhaat suffer kerrnaa pertta haai so we should be the best even if we belong 2 higher society in order 2 solve difficulties which r created 4 poor ppl

[Shaim]

Re: Iik orr qissm kii AURAAT......?

Jee janab Pak ek muslim coutnry hai, shayad wahan aisa nahin hota hoga, what I replied in above thread that the most important reasons is that fashion, advanced culture and money, girls apne aap ko zyadah khubsoorat dekhna chahti hai, and many more reasons you will know if you 'go through' metropolitan discussion

Buhaat afsoos see kehhnaa perrtaa haai kee yahaan bhii aiisa hii hootaa haai n started by high society ppl now it is common even in middle class!

[Shaim]

Re: Iik orr qissm kii AURAAT......?

Jee janab Pak ek muslim coutnry hai, shayad wahan aisa nahin hota hoga, what I replied in above thread that the most important reasons is that fashion, advanced culture and money, girls apne aap ko zyadah khubsoorat dekhna chahti hai, and many more reasons you will know if you 'go through' metropolitan

Buhaat afsoos see kehhnaa perrtaa haai kee yahaan bhii aiisa hii hootaa haai n started by high society ppl now it is common even in middle class!

[Shaim]

Re: Iik orr qissm kii AURAAT......?

W salaam,


Barish bahooot hi nazuk taar chheraa hai aapnien humaari society humaare muashre kaa main abhi koee zeyaadaa nahin likh rahaa sirf perh rahaa hun aur mujhe spy ki iss baat se kaafi hud tak ittefaaq hai haan mujhe kahin aur kaa to nahin pataa lekin mumbai ko jitnien qareeb se mainien dekhaa hai utne qareeb se yehaan kisi nien bhi nahin dekhaa hoogaa to main aapko mumbai ke mutalliq kuch bataaongaa Inshaah Allaah khaas taur se college girls ke mutalliq

Appkaa perhnaa orr yee discussion kerrnaa hii buhaat ahaam haai mere topic kee liyye buhatt shukkriaa appka:)

Mumbai kee baaree maai buhaatt kuuch suuna haai hope appsee mazeed info miilee gee INSHALLAH!(as spy bhai nee bhii tazkaraa kiiya)

[Shaim]

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humm.. but apni merizi sey kerna.. aur zaberdesti karwana 2 allag chezin hain .. and there is diffrece in "call girls" and "tawaifs"

i think app india ke bary main sahi baat ker rehy hoo .. per jo ladkiyon zati tur per yeh kaam kerti hain (call girls) hum un ko tawaif ke saath compare nahin ker satky..
tawaif tu kuch loogon ke under kaam ker rehi hoti hai aur woh yeh kaam
chodna bhi chahey tu nahin chode sakti ,, because of pressuer and threatrs

college girls agher na kerna chahing tu koi pressuer nahin..

wasey pakistan main bhi kuch grooh "call girls " .. provide kerty hain
yahn bhi kuch ladkiyan "apni merzi" sey ass tarah paisa kamati hain.. per.. bhut ziyda nahin per kuch tadaad hai aisa loogon
.... per jo ladkiyan mujbri sey un chakroon main pahns jati hain un ke lieye
kuch kernaa chahiya,,, jab bhi kisi ko muqaa miley
oks,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Z.]

Re: Iik orr qissm kii AURAAT......?

barish mey ney A-Z saarey replies perhey hein ....it really make u sad...
Muskan aap sey mey 100% muttafiq hun.....,
hamarey muashrey mey to agar aik lerki izzat sey jeena bhi chahey gi to ussey ko izzat sey nahi jeeney deyta....aur ye kaun hota hai ??


barish changes hum la saktey hein ....koi cheez bhi impossible nahi hai...leykin ye kaam tabhi mumkin hai jab hum apney mulk mey sahih maano mey logon ko "Taleem" muhayya kerna shuru ker dien....jab log apney islamic values sey aaga ho jayein gey to ye sab khatam ho jaye ga....inshAllah