Mushraf VS maulna Madni

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Pehly app loog yeh video dekhin ....
jis mein Jamat-e-Ulema-i-Hind ky leader maulana mahmood madani nain
kahah ky Pakistan ko indian muslims ke fiakr ke koi zarorat nahinn..
aur pakistan ke tarf sy dehshat gard a rahy hain....
video dkehin.. mushraf nain kuch jawab bhi diye hain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXneLyijBH0&feature=related


Mein sirf yeh kehna chahon ga ky yeh wahi loog hain.. jinhon nain Paksitan banain ke mukhalifat ke... quaid e azam ko kafir kaha...
aur paksitan aa ker... jahad e kashmir ko dehsaht gardi kaha....

yeh woh loog hain jo india mein reh ker amaan ky geet gaty hain...
aur pakistan main in ky "bhai" bandooq ky zoor per shariyat nafiz kernain mein lagy hain.. aur NWFP mein loogon ke humdardiyan samait rehy hain...


bagal mein churi aur mun mein raam raam yeh khwat jin ky bary mein hai..
mein in sub ko bhi usi fehrsit mein shamil kerta hon....
munafiq munafiq aur munafiq

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yaad rehy mein sehi ulma e akram ke bhut izzat kerta hon..
un ky paon ke kaah mery sar aur ankhon per..
pery zammer farsoh loog mujh sy bardasht nahin hoty...

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us alim nay jo bhe kaha apnay watan(india) ki muhabbat mian kaha......
aor be shak woh galat tha......
lakin aap nay jo alfaz bad main kahay hain keh
"un kay bhai yahan bandooq kay zoor par shariat nafiz karnay kay liyae" hain...
yahan main aap say ikhtalaf karta hon....
aor 1 baat zehan main rakhiyae ga keh
"islam aor pakistan aik dosray kay liyae LAZIM O MALZOOM hain"
agar pakistan main islam nahi aya to pakistan ka wajood he nahi rahay ga.

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us alim nay jo bhe kaha apnay watan(india) ki muhabbat mian kaha......
aor be shak woh galat tha......
lakin aap nay jo alfaz bad main kahay hain keh
"un kay bhai yahan bandooq kay zoor par shariat nafiz karnay kay liyae" hain...
yahan main aap say ikhtalaf karta hon....
aor 1 baat zehan main rakhiyae ga keh
"islam aor pakistan aik dosray kay liyae LAZIM O MALZOOM hain"
agar pakistan main islam nahi aya to pakistan ka wajood he nahi rahay ga.

Aur mein khalos sy islam ky nafaz k liye ke jananin wali her koshis ka sath deta hon.... islam ky ihkmat humary sar ankhon per.. us ka nafaz hum per lazim..

per zulm o zaberdesti sy.. nahin balky piyar nabi (s.a.w) ke sunnat key mutabiq...

jo loog USA sy paisy ly ker paksitan ke goverment ko kafir keh ker so called jehad kerin.. like Tehreek e taliban pakistan... aisy loog humari bandoqon ke nook per...


Mulana nain jo kaha woh indian goverment sy wah wah hasil kernian ko kaha... agher musraf ke bat manty hain.. tu pori manin key dono taraf sy loog a jaa rhay hain... addhi bat kerna aur ahdi chupa dena munafiqeen ke nashnai hai...
yeh hazart bhool gey hain.. jo Gujrat mein muslims ky sath howa aur mumbi mein bhi muslim ka qatle e aam howa hai.. us waqat yeh loog kahah hoty hain..

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Aur mein khalos sy islam ky nafaz k liye ke jananin wali her koshis ka sath deta hon.... islam ky ihkmat humary sar ankhon per.. us ka nafaz hum per lazim..

per zulm o zaberdesti sy.. nahin balky piyar nabi (s.a.w) ke sunnat key mutabiq...

jo loog USA sy paisy ly ker paksitan ke goverment ko kafir keh ker so called jehad kerin.. like Tehreek e taliban pakistan... aisy loog humari bandoqon ke nook per...


Mulana nain jo kaha woh indian goverment sy wah wah hasil kernian ko kaha... agher musraf ke bat manty hain.. tu pori manin key dono taraf sy loog a jaa rhay hain... addhi bat kerna aur ahdi chupa dena munafiqeen ke nashnai hai...
yeh hazart bhool gey hain.. jo Gujrat mein muslims ky sath howa aur mumbi mein bhi muslim ka qatle e aam howa hai.. us waqat yeh loog kahah hoty hain..

janab main aap say sirf 2 batain poochon ga
1....hamaray NABI(PBUH) ka woh konsa SUNNAT TAREEQA tha jis par chaltay huay unhon nay DEEN E ISLAM ko ghalab kiya(SHARIAT KA NIZAM)??
2...woh konsay log hain jo USA sy paisy ly ker paksitan ke goverment ko kafir keh ker so called jehad kerin??un kay nam bata dain...aor saboot bhe plz...
filhal itna hee.
main umeed karta hon keh hum baat ko uljhain gay nahi balkeh kisi faslay par poohanchain gay apni ana aor jazbat say hat kar....:insha:

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janab main aap say sirf 2 batain poochon ga
1....hamaray NABI(PBUH) ka woh konsa SUNNAT TAREEQA tha jis par chaltay huay unhon nay DEEN E ISLAM ko ghalab kiya(SHARIAT KA NIZAM)??
2...woh konsay log hain jo USA sy paisy ly ker paksitan ke goverment ko kafir keh ker so called jehad kerin??un kay nam bata dain...aor saboot bhe plz...
filhal itna hee.
main umeed karta hon keh hum baat ko uljhain gay nahi balkeh kisi faslay par poohanchain gay apni ana aor jazbat say hat kar....:insha:

1.yeh mein nain kai ulma e akram nain lekh hai ky
shari akhmat ka nazol .. step by step howa...
shrab ke hurmat ka hukum ... bhi isi tarah aya... aur jo cheez us society mein aam thi.. us ko darja ba darja mana farma diya gaya....
yehi woh Sunat tareqa hai jis ke main bat krta hon...
jis mein dawat e deen hai..... ammal sy dosron ko badla gaya hai.. aur jab pora muashria us anadaz mein dhal jata hai.. tu agey qadam bharty hain...
aur ALLAH ker keram sy phir dawat e deen dunai ky konin konin mein pheli.. jahaz zaroort peri talwar bhi uthi gi.. per islam logon nian dar ker nahin , taleemat sy mtuasir ho ker kiya...
yeh tu ahle magrib ka ilza hai ky islam talwar sy pehla hai... such tu yeh hai ky talwary sy ilaaqa fatah hota hai logon ky dil nahin....

2, woh loog app ko nahin dekhty? baitullah mashood, tehreek e talban pakistan... aur woh jo pakistan mein khudkush hamly kerty hain RAW sy support ly ker..
jin per abhi tek USA nain ko misel hamla nahin kiya!

jin ke location Pak army nain USA ko di.. per unhon nain humla nahin kiya... jo loog pro pakistan hain aur sifr afghisntan mein larty hain jaisy ky gul badeen hikmat yar.. un ky oper sirf hamlay howy hain..

coz jo pak ka dushman hai woh USA ko aur INDIA ko qabool hai.. jo un ka dushman nahin unhi per hamly hoty hain...

aur mein unhi ke bat ker reha hon..
yeh bat bhut sy loog keh chuky hain..
including Zaid hammid

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1.yeh mein nain kai ulma e akram nain lekh hai ky
shari akhmat ka nazol .. step by step howa...
shrab ke hurmat ka hukum ... bhi isi tarah aya... aur jo cheez us society mein aam thi.. us ko darja ba darja mana farma diya gaya....
yehi woh Sunat tareqa hai jis ke main bat krta hon...
jis mein dawat e deen hai..... ammal sy dosron ko badla gaya hai.. aur jab pora muashria us anadaz mein dhal jata hai.. tu agey qadam bharty hain...
aur ALLAH ker keram sy phir dawat e deen dunai ky konin konin mein pheli.. jahaz zaroort peri talwar bhi uthi gi.. per islam logon nian dar ker nahin , taleemat sy mtuasir ho ker kiya...
yeh tu ahle magrib ka ilza hai ky islam talwar sy pehla hai... such tu yeh hai ky talwary sy ilaaqa fatah hota hai logon ky dil nahin....

2, woh loog app ko nahin dekhty? baitullah mashood, tehreek e talban pakistan... aur woh jo pakistan mein khudkush hamly kerty hain RAW sy support ly ker..
jin per abhi tek USA nain ko misel hamla nahin kiya!

jin ke location Pak army nain USA ko di.. per unhon nain humla nahin kiya... jo loog pro pakistan hain aur sifr afghisntan mein larty hain jaisy ky gul badeen hikmat yar.. un ky oper sirf hamlay howy hain..

coz jo pak ka dushman hai woh USA ko aur INDIA ko qabool hai.. jo un ka dushman nahin unhi per hamly hoty hain...

aur mein unhi ke bat ker reha hon..
yeh bat bhut sy loog keh chuky hain..
including Zaid hammid

1.....janab main nay aap say DEEN KO QAIM karnay ka SUNNAT tareeqa poocha hai....DEEN KAY POORAY honay ka nahi....DEEN STEP BY STEP UTRA THA ..DEEN KO QAIM KAISAY KIYA HAZOOR(PBUH) NAY?? woh tareeqa likhain..
2....bhai g baat SABOOT say krain mafroozon say nahi...
bait ullah mashood ko sirf is kam say BAZ karnay kay liyae us par yeh ILZAMAT lagai gay hain...warna hakomat nay sirf biyan he diyae hain jaisa keh woh apni mukhalif SIYASI jamatoon kay khilaf daiti hai.....lakin SABOOT kabhi nahi diyae....agar aap kay paas hai too mujhay bhe dikhaiyae???
dosra yeh keh MULK MAIN KHUD KUSH HAMLAY KARNAY WALON KA AAJ TAK KOI BHE PATA NAI CHALA SAKA KEH WOH KON HAIN??? TOO AAP NAY KAHAN SAY AGLI BAAT KAR DE JANAB G..??SABOOT DAIN WARNA APNI BAT SAY RAJU KARAIN.
HAKOMAT TALIBAN PAR SAB KUCH DAAL RAHI HAI KION KEH AAJ KAL AGAR KISI KA UNDER WEAR BHE GUM HO JAY TO WOH BHE TALIBAN PAR HE SHAK KIYA JATA HAI....
SABOOT DAIN PLZ..

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1.....janab main nay aap say DEEN KO QAIM karnay ka SUNNAT tareeqa poocha hai....DEEN KAY POORAY honay ka nahi....DEEN STEP BY STEP UTRA THA ..DEEN KO QAIM KAISAY KIYA HAZOOR(PBUH) NAY?? woh tareeqa likhain..
2....bhai g baat SABOOT say krain mafroozon say nahi...
bait ullah mashood ko sirf is kam say BAZ karnay kay liyae us par yeh ILZAMAT lagai gay hain...warna hakomat nay sirf biyan he diyae hain jaisa keh woh apni mukhalif SIYASI jamatoon kay khilaf daiti hai.....lakin SABOOT kabhi nahi diyae....agar aap kay paas hai too mujhay bhe dikhaiyae???
dosra yeh keh MULK MAIN KHUD KUSH HAMLAY KARNAY WALON KA AAJ TAK KOI BHE PATA NAI CHALA SAKA KEH WOH KON HAIN??? TOO AAP NAY KAHAN SAY AGLI BAAT KAR DE JANAB G..??SABOOT DAIN WARNA APNI BAT SAY RAJU KARAIN.
HAKOMAT TALIBAN PAR SAB KUCH DAAL RAHI HAI KION KEH AAJ KAL AGAR KISI KA UNDER WEAR BHE GUM HO JAY TO WOH BHE TALIBAN PAR HE SHAK KIYA JATA HAI....
SABOOT DAIN PLZ..

1. deen ko qaim kernin ka sunnat tareqa "Amal" hai...
piyary nabi (s.a.w) ko loog sadiq aur amen ky laqb sy janty thy... jab app (s.a.w) nain aelaan e nabwat farmya tu koi talwar nahin uthi.. kisi ka sar nahin qalam kiya.. sirf apnin ammal sy hi loogon ko mutasir kiya...

Makah mein jo muslmano per zulm o sitam tha.. kiya ajj pakistan mein uss sy ziyda ho rha hai jo app islam ky nifaz ky liye bandooq ke baat kernin lagin..

Nabi(s.a.w) nain tu pathar kha ker duain dein...
Madina sharif mein aa ker bhi kufar nain jab jang cheri tu jawab diya... warna nahin..
balky meesaq e madinah ka yadgar muahida bhi farmya...

app nain meri iss bat ka jawab nahin diya ky yeh tu sirf "gooron" ka ilzam tha ky "Islam is spread by sword" aur humary ulma iss ka jawab dety rehy hain..
ab muslim ke yeh soch ky sy ho gi ky woh yeh samjhin deen talwar sy pehly ga...

app key iss sawal ka jawab mein nin dosri post mein bhi diya hai....

yahan mukhtasran yahi kahon ga.. ky loogon ko deen per chalnin ke dawat dein.. koi app ko mana nahin kery ga.. namaz pehrnin sy...
jab afrad mein deen ke samjh aa jay gi.. tu insha ALLAH tabdeli a jay gi..

beharal mery Nabi(s.a.w) ka tareeqa dawat hai..

2. begair saboot? acha tu Pakistan per khudkush hamlon ky jawaz mein fatway app ke nazar sy nahin guzry?

kuch loog jo pakry gay hain.. shaid un ka bhi nahin suna ho ga app nain..

aur shaid zaid hammid jo pakistan ky bary mein kafi behtreen mualomat rekhty hain... un ke bhi koi bat app nain suni nahin ho gi... un ke bhi baitulaah mashood aur tehreek e talban ky bary mein yahi ray hai... aur unhon nin kai dafa yehi kaha hai...
baqi yeh groh koi sarkari daftar tu khool ker nahin beithy ky mein un ke files paish kero app ky samnin..

"talban" tu ek naam hai jo ab her dosri jaga fit ker diya jata hai... chahy woh kehin bhi hon..

jo USA sy lar rehy hain woh loog drust ker rehy hain..
Pakistan ke goverment nain USA ka sath diaya hai..
per sub janty hain ky pakistan ke awwam is ky haq main nahin... tu yeh loog pakistan awaam per apni bhars kiyon nikalty hain...

meri 2 sy 3 thread per app sy bat howi hai... mery aur app ky nazriyae mein sirf ek bat ka farq nazar ataa hai mujhy... shaid mein galat hon..

per mujhy lagta hai app Kalshinkove ky zoor per deen ka nifaz sahi samjhty hain... aur mein nahin...

han mein yeh zaroor manta hon... ky iss mojoda nizam ko tabell hona chahiye... ky sy... yeh bat qable behas hai... han ek dafa ziad hammid sahib nain khilafat ke tarz per nizam e humkomat per bari achi baat ke thi.. woh video mili tu us ka link send ker don ga.. yeh nahin kehta ky wohi shai hai.. per
Hathiyaorn sy hat ker dosry raston per goor kerna chahiye...

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app nain meri iss bat ka jawab nahin diya ky yeh tu sirf "gooron" ka ilzam tha ky "Islam is spread by sword" aur humary ulma iss ka jawab dety rehy hain..
ab muslim ke yeh soch ky sy ho gi ky woh yeh samjhin deen talwar sy pehly ga...

MAIN YAHAN KIYA KAHOON AAP KO ??
WAQAE BATIL NAY TO HAMARI TAREEKH BHE HUM SAY CHEN LI....
JANAB AAP KO SEERAT KAY MUTALAK AIK BUHAT BARI GHALAT FEHMI HUI HAI....MAIN INSHAALLAH BUHAT JALD 1 MUFASSAL THREAD KAY SAATH HAZIR HON GA.:insha:

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MAIN YAHAN KIYA KAHOON AAP KO ??
WAQAE BATIL NAY TO HAMARI TAREEKH BHE HUM SAY CHEN LI....
JANAB AAP KO SEERAT KAY MUTALAK AIK BUHAT BARI GHALAT FEHMI HUI HAI....MAIN INSHAALLAH BUHAT JALD 1 MUFASSAL THREAD KAY SAATH HAZIR HON GA.:insha:

Hazzrat mujhy malom hai ky islami sultant ky arroj ky door mein kai alleqy jehad sy fatah howy...
Hazrat e umar (R.T.A) ky door mein bhi kai kamyabian hasil ke gain..
iss ka liam hai mujhy...

per jang ky bad kisi per zaberdesti nahin ke gai, koi kam agher whan ky rasm o riwaj mein aisa ho jo shariyat sy na takrata ho tu us ko badla b nahin gaya...
phir islaam amal sy hi phla...
aleqa tu jang sy fatah howa... per phir tableg sy dawat sy loog deen ke taraf aye...

Jehad sar ankhon per... per apny muslaman behan bhaiyon ko marana jahad nahin fisaad hai..