14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

[Shaim]

Assalam o Alikum Peghamians!

Hope U ll B Fine n Happy INSHALLAH!:)

Jesa k ap sab jaanty hain k AUGUST ka Mahina start ho chuka hai n off course Paki's Birthday iz somehow very near....MASHALLAH.....!

per humin is birthday k "MAQSAD" per baat krna hai.....
or Birthday ka "MAQSAD" off course......."JASHN-E-AZADI" hai

Viewers.......apny views hamary sath share kijiye k kiya hum WAQAI Azad hain......ya hum ne apni ankhin meechi hoi hain sacchae se?

Apk views ka intizar rahy ga.
ik baat kehna chahoon gi.......ager hum mai koi burai hai to jab tak hum usko accept nahi ker lety uska cure mushkil hai is lye tamaam +ve n -ve points k sath baat kijiye ga.

Humin Pakistan ko Aagy ley kr jana hai........buhat aagy INSHALLAH........tamaam kamzooryaan door kr k........!

KHUSH RAHYYE
Pakistan Zinda Baad.......!:thmbup:

[Z.]

Re: DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

walaikum salam Me here!

sure inshAllah ... :thmbup:

[AbgeenA]

Re: DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

jis tarah ham america ki jee hazuri me lage hen or us ke hukam par apne hi logon ka khoon tak baha rahen hen or america ko khush karne ke leay apni education,apni riwayaat,tehzeeb hata ke apne mazhab me bhi changes lane par majbur hen us se to yehi sabit he k ham america ke ghulam hen.hamare hukmaran har har baat ke elay america ki taraf dekhte hen k kahin aqaa naraz na ho jaen:fuming:mehez aik din 14th august ko jhandyin lehra lene se ya jashan mana lene se sabit nahi hota k ham azaad hen.jis maksad ke elay hamare buzargon ne lakhon qurbaniyan de kar Pakistan hasil kia wo maksad zati mufadaat ki bheer me gum ho chuka he.

[Shaim]

Re: DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

walaikum salam Me here!

sure inshAllah ... :thmbup:

INSHALLAH! :)

[Shaim]

Re: DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

jis tarah ham america ki jee hazuri me lage hen or us ke hukam par apne hi logon ka khoon tak baha rahen hen or america ko khush karne ke leay apni education,apni riwayaat,tehzeeb hata ke apne mazhab me bhi changes lane par majbur hen us se to yehi sabit he k ham america ke ghulam hen.hamare hukmaran har har baat ke elay america ki taraf dekhte hen k kahin aqaa naraz na ho jaen:fuming:mehez aik din 14th august ko jhandyin lehra lene se ya jashan mana lene se sabit nahi hota k ham azaad hen.jis maksad ke elay hamare buzargon ne lakhon qurbaniyan de kar Pakistan hasil kia wo maksad zati mufadaat ki bheer me gum ho chuka he.

Hamzad Khush Amdeed in the Debate!

rite.......yani in ur views hum azad nahi......hum ghulam hain......AMERICA k ghulaam....!

pr ik baat pochna chahoon gi.....kiya apko lgta hai ye Musharraf Hakoomat ne humin ghulam bana diya hai?
ya hum Mush Daur se pehly bhi ghulaam thy????

Reply ka intizaar rahy ga
KHUSH RAHIN HAMESHA! :)

WASALAM!

[sccorpion81]

Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

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Assalam o Alikum Peghamians!

W/Salam Me Here

Hope U ll B Fine n Happy INSHALLAH!:)

Alhamdulillah

Jesa k ap sab jaanty hain k AUGUST ka Mahina start ho chuka hai n off course Paki's Birthday iz somehow very near....MASHALLAH.....!

:Insight:

per humin is birthday k "MAQSAD" per baat krna hai.....
or Birthday ka "MAQSAD" off course......."JASHN-E-AZADI" hai

:hhh:

Viewers.......apny views hamary sath share kijiye k kiya hum WAQAI Azad hain......ya hum ne apni ankhin meechi hoi hain sacchae se?

Azad....Kabhi ham azad thay....phir jab angraiz aaya bare sagheer main tu hamare kuch janbaz aur sachay logon nay azadi k saath us ka muqabila kia ... laikin kuch bay Eaman Logon Like Meer Jafar jaise logon ki wajha say ham un ki ghulami main chalay gay .... laikin ham apne un mujhadon ka diya hoowa wo sabaq k shair ki aik din ki zindagey Geedar ki so sala zindagey say behtar hoti hai bhool gay...aur us ko dohranay ki koshish hi nahien kee aur aahista aahista ham logon na sirf Muashi Ghulam bal k Zehni ghulam bantay gay....Phir us k baad aik waqt aaya k kuch log jinhain is qom say mohabat thee apne deen say mohabat kertay thay aur unhon nay wo sabaq yaad kiya tha jo k ham say pehle kamyab aur azad logon nay hamain diya tha ... unhon nay apni qom ko jhanjora aur us ko wo sabaq yaad dilaya......unhon ne qurbaniyan deen apna mal apni jaan hata k apni izatain bhi gunwaien aur us k baad angraiz aur hindu dono say azadi hasil ker lee laikin afsos k wo chand log bhi ziyada dair tak hamare beech main na reh sakay aur un ko itna moqa na mil saka k wo in azad logon k liey kuch ker sakain ya un ko bta sakain k azadi tu tum nay hasi ker lee hai ab tum nay is azadi ko istamal kaisay kerna hai.....us k bad aik k baad doosra jo bhi aata gya us ko shayad azadi k mafhooom ka pata nahein tha aur is tarha ham logon nay muashrati tour per tu azadi hasil ker lee laikin zehni tour per abi tak un k ghulam hain...pehle britishars k thay ab america k hain......aur ab hamari halat us lateefay jaisee hai..

Aik Badshah Slamat is wajha say pareshan thay k un ki Awam kuch bolti na thee chahay wo acha kam kerain ya bura...wo apni awam k raey janina chatay thay apne baray main tu unhon city k andar anay walay rastay per pehra laga diya k jo mazdoor aaey us ki checking kero is tarha logon ko dushwari hoee tu badsha nay socha k shayad ab log shikayat lay ker aaien gay..laikin koee nahien aaya..tu unhon nay order diya k in logon ko Murgha Bna ker Pul k ooper say guzara jaey logon nay murga ban k gu8zarna shuroo ker diya...laikin phir bhi koee na aaya ... phir King nay her banday ko 10 jootay bhi saath lagwanay shuroo ker diey laikin ab bhi koee nanhein bola yeh jootay barha k 20 ho gay tab bhi koee nahien bola tu king nay aik jalsa kia aur awam say poocha k aap ko koee takleef tu nahi hai na tu un main say aik shakhs utha aur bola Badsha Salamat aur tu koee takleef nahien hai bas jootay marne walon ki tadad agar barha dain tu bari mehrbani ho gee k ham apni mazdoori say late ho jatay hain...

Tu ab hamara bhi wo hi haal hai

Apk views ka intizar rahy ga.

ik baat kehna chahoon gi.......ager hum mai koi burai hai to jab tak hum usko accept nahi ker lety uska cure mushkil hai is lye

ham apni buari ko accept tu kertay hain laikin un ko chorne ki koshish nahein kertay aur yahi hamara masla hai

tamaam +ve n -ve points k sath baat kijiye ga.

Humin Pakistan ko Aagy ley kr jana hai........buhat aagy

Insha Allah hain Ummid ka daman nahien chorna chahiey...yeh andhai Insha Allah zaroor chotay ga....ab lagta hai k ham logon nay aahista aahista phir say jagna shurooker diya hai ... subha honay wali hai ...InshaAllah Pakistan Jis maqsad k liey liya gya tha wo zaroor poora ho ga....bas agar ham kuch nahien ker sakay tu kam az kam apni Next nasal ko tayar ker dain k wo kuch ker dikhain......hamari tayari is lihaz say nahien thee laikin ham un ko tayar ker saktay hain....aur agar ham un k darmiyan hooway tu ham bhi un k saath hoon gay..Insha Allah
INSHALLAH........tamaam kamzooryaan door kr k........!

KHUSH RAHYYE
Pakistan Zinda Baad.......!:thmbup:

Pakistan painda Baad

[Shaim]

Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

u ve come wid Nice points.....:)
soon Reply INSHALLAH

KHUSH RAHIN Bhai!

[aabi2cool]

Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

Assalam o Alikum Peghamians!

Hope U ll B Fine n Happy INSHALLAH!:)

Jesa k ap sab jaanty hain k AUGUST ka Mahina start ho chuka hai n off course Paki's Birthday iz somehow very near....MASHALLAH.....!

w/salam dear sister :rose

per humin is birthday k "MAQSAD" per baat krna hai.....

birthday ka maqsad....?:cc:

or Birthday ka "MAQSAD" off course......."JASHN-E-AZADI" hai

jab birth day ka maqsad serf jashan manana hi hay to phir aap ka dosra sawal baymani hojata hy yani k kaya hum waqe hi azad hain aur moaf kijiye ga mujhy to aap apny sawalat main khud kafi uljhi hui lag rahi hain yani aap ye teh hi naheen kar par rahi k aap ka is thred ko lagany ka maqsad kaya hy?

Viewers.......apny views hamary sath share kijiye k kiya hum WAQAI Azad hain......ya hum ne apni ankhin meechi hoi hain sacchae se?

jab abhi ye teh hi naheen hua k hum azad hain ya naheen ya phir hum ny ankheen meechi hui hain to aap ki oper wali yani jasan ko maqsad banay wali baat che mani darad.? yani wo baat bilkul fazool hojati hy .

Apk views ka intizar rahy ga.

hum apny views zaroor dain gay pehly aap apna nuqta e nazar wazy kareen k aap kis mozu par guftgu chati hain..?
khush rahiye:phool:

[AbgeenA]

Re: DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

Hamzad Khush Amdeed in the Debate!

rite.......yani in ur views hum azad nahi......hum ghulam hain......AMERICA k ghulaam....!

pr ik baat pochna chahoon gi.....kiya apko lgta hai ye Musharraf Hakoomat ne humin ghulam bana diya hai?
ya hum Mush Daur se pehly bhi ghulaam thy????

Reply ka intizaar rahy ga
KHUSH RAHIN HAMESHA! :)

WASALAM!

haan ham mush dor se pehle bhi ghulam hi the ham ne america ke kehne par taliban ko mujahideen karar de kar russia ke khilaf jung lari or aaj bhi amrica ke kehne par unhi taliban ko jo kal tak mujahid the aaj dehshat gard karar de dia or bush ki so called war against terror me us ke front line itehadi ban gae (ager apni aik azaad soch hoti to aik baar to sochte k kal jin ko mujahid kehte the aaj kis mooh se unhi ko dehshat gard keh rahe hen serf is leay k america keh raha he)lekin aik baat zarur he k jis tarah musharaf ke dor me amrica ko khul kar game karne ka moka mila he us se pehle esa nahi tha.is leay ham keh sakte hen k ager ghulami me koi kasar reh gai thi to wo mr musharaf ne puri kar di

[Z.]

Motivation hoti kya hai---aik baar yun hua key aik banda aik chinese scholar key paas gaya aur us sey motivation key baarey mey poocha

chinese scholar ney kaha key ye aap key ander hai -----ye aap ko kisi sey bhi nahi milti hai yani key source of motivation koi bhi nahi hai balkey aap khudi hain

wo banda hairaan hua aur us ney kaha show me an example



ab pehley us bandey ney socha key shayad ye aik mazaaq hai leykin jaisey hi deyr hoti ja rahi thi key ussey saans leyney mey zahir hai mushkil hui to us ney pehley thora sa apney sar ko hilaya ---jab kuch nahi hua to us ney zaur sey hilaya------phir bhi kuch nahi to thora aur zaur sey--------aur akhir kaar aik jhatkey sey poori taqat key sath us ney apna sar bahar nikaal liya



is per chinese scholar bola ...now u see motivation aap key ander hai bas thora hilney julney ki deyr hoti ha i

[arifkarim]

Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

yeh ham bar bar musharraf ko kioon ilzam de rahe hain. tareekh gawah hai hamnain aajtak pakistan main aik bhi azad hukmaran nahin daikha jisnain sache dil se pakistan ki khidmat ki ho. 1948 main jis din liaqat ali khan ko liaqat bagh main sab logon ke samnain goli mari gai usi din hamara pakistan bhi halak ho giya tha. ab ham kis umid par baithai hain, yahan to sare ka sara awa hi bigra howa hai. qasoor america ka ya british ka nahin hamara apna hai.

[Shaim]

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W/Salam Me Here
Alhamdulillah


:hhh:

Azad....Kabhi ham azad thay....phir jab angraiz aaya bare sagheer main tu hamare kuch janbaz aur sachay logon nay azadi k saath us ka muqabila kia ... laikin kuch bay Eaman Logon Like Meer Jafar jaise logon ki wajha say ham un ki ghulami main chalay gay .... laikin ham apne un mujhadon ka diya hoowa wo sabaq k shair ki aik din ki zindagey Geedar ki so sala zindagey say behtar hoti hai bhool gay...aur us ko dohranay ki koshish hi nahien kee aur aahista aahista ham logon na sirf Muashi Ghulam bal k Zehni ghulam bantay gay....Phir us k baad aik waqt aaya k kuch log jinhain is qom say mohabat thee apne deen say mohabat kertay thay aur unhon nay wo sabaq yaad kiya tha jo k ham say pehle kamyab aur azad logon nay hamain diya tha ... unhon nay apni qom ko jhanjora aur us ko wo sabaq yaad dilaya......unhon ne qurbaniyan deen apna mal apni jaan hata k apni izatain bhi gunwaien aur us k baad angraiz aur hindu dono say azadi hasil ker lee laikin afsos k wo chand log bhi ziyada dair tak hamare beech main na reh sakay aur un ko itna moqa na mil saka k wo in azad logon k liey kuch ker sakain ya un ko bta sakain k azadi tu tum nay hasi ker lee hai ab tum nay is azadi ko istamal kaisay kerna hai.....us k bad aik k baad doosra jo bhi aata gya us ko shayad azadi k mafhooom ka pata nahein tha aur is tarha ham logon nay muashrati tour per tu azadi hasil ker lee laikin zehni tour per abi tak un k ghulam hain...pehle britishars k thay ab america k hain......aur ab hamari halat us lateefay jaisee hai..

Aik Badshah Slamat is wajha say pareshan thay k un ki Awam kuch bolti na thee chahay wo acha kam kerain ya bura...wo apni awam k raey janina chatay thay apne baray main tu unhon city k andar anay walay rastay per pehra laga diya k jo mazdoor aaey us ki checking kero is tarha logon ko dushwari hoee tu badsha nay socha k shayad ab log shikayat lay ker aaien gay..laikin koee nahien aaya..tu unhon nay order diya k in logon ko Murgha Bna ker Pul k ooper say guzara jaey logon nay murga ban k gu8zarna shuroo ker diya...laikin phir bhi koee na aaya ... phir King nay her banday ko 10 jootay bhi saath lagwanay shuroo ker diey laikin ab bhi koee nanhein bola yeh jootay barha k 20 ho gay tab bhi koee nahien bola tu king nay aik jalsa kia aur awam say poocha k aap ko koee takleef tu nahi hai na tu un main say aik shakhs utha aur bola Badsha Salamat aur tu koee takleef nahien hai bas jootay marne walon ki tadad agar barha dain tu bari mehrbani ho gee k ham apni mazdoori say late ho jatay hain...

Tu ab hamara bhi wo hi haal hai

Apk views ka intizar rahy ga.

ham apni buari ko accept tu kertay hain laikin un ko chorne ki koshish nahein kertay aur yahi hamara masla hai

Insha Allah hain Ummid ka daman nahien chorna chahiey...yeh andhai Insha Allah zaroor chotay ga....ab lagta hai k ham logon nay aahista aahista phir say jagna shurooker diya hai ... subha honay wali hai ...InshaAllah Pakistan Jis maqsad k liey liya gya tha wo zaroor poora ho ga....bas agar ham kuch nahien ker sakay tu kam az kam apni Next nasal ko tayar ker dain k wo kuch ker dikhain......hamari tayari is lihaz say nahien thee laikin ham un ko tayar ker saktay hain....aur agar ham un k darmiyan hooway tu ham bhi un k saath hoon gay..Insha AllahINSHALLAH........tamaam kamzooryaan door kr k........!

KHUSH RAHYYE
Pakistan Zinda Baad.......!:thmbup:

Pakistan painda Baad

Yasir Bhai apny buhat accha or comprehensive reply kiya.....:thmbup:
very nice......:clap:

itni summerize form mai apny humin history bhi bata di or haal bhi....:)
yaani ghalat Leadership hi iski qasoorwaar hai jo aj hum Zehni taur pr azad nahi ho pae......as well as u ve raised the point k "ab hum jaag rahy hain" to mujeh lgta hai k waqai ab hum baidaar ho rahy hain....q k leaders ki policies ab hum pr khul rahi hain 15 yrs back we were sleeping.....koi ik road bhi banwa deta tha to hum samajhty thy k is se behter koi nahi chahy us road ki aar mai wo jo merzi krta.....jitna bhi mulk ko loot'ta......

per ab hum pr asleehat khul rahi hai wo kehty hain na......subah ka bhoola sham ko ae to ushy bhoola nahi kehty.....bus ALLAH TAALA humin ab sach mai jaga dy apny MADHAB k lye as well as apni country k lye AMEEN!

n nice joke as well :D
hum America k aagy waqai aise hain :thmbup:

KHUSH RAHYYE HAMESHA
or apny views share krty rakhyye!:thmbup:

:salam: Pakistan Zinda Baad Painda Baad!:salam:

WASALAM!:salam:

[Shaim]

Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

w/salam dear sister :rose


birthday ka maqsad....?:cc:
jab birth day ka maqsad serf jashan manana hi hay to phir aap ka dosra sawal baymani hojata hy yani k kaya hum waqe hi azad hain aur moaf kijiye ga mujhy to aap apny sawalat main khud kafi uljhi hui lag rahi hain yani aap ye teh hi naheen kar par rahi k aap ka is thred ko lagany ka maqsad kaya hy?


jab abhi ye teh hi naheen hua k hum azad hain ya naheen ya phir hum ny ankheen meechi hui hain to aap ki oper wali yani jasan ko maqsad banay wali baat che mani darad.? yani wo baat bilkul fazool hojati hy .


hum apny views zaroor dain gay pehly aap apna nuqta e nazar wazy kareen k aap kis mozu par guftgu chati hain..?
khush rahiye:phool:

Assalam o Alikum Respected Brother....!

Mere basically 2 ques thy jin pr main ap sab k views jan'na chahti thi/hoon.

1stly ye k hum 14th AUG ko MASHALLAH Paki ka Birthday celebrate krty hain :)......matlab jashan manaty hain is baat ka k humin ik AZAD MULK naseeb hoa.

2ndly i raised the ques......k Birthday ka maqsad beshak yahi hai k hum "AZADI KA JASHAN" manaty hain.........to kiya ap log samajhty hain k hum "WAQAI AZAD HAIN?" ya ye sirf barae naam jashan hai,

mere sawalat apas mai contradictionary hain main khud in mai nahi uljhi :) or ab to i ve xplained hopefully apko ab koi masla nahi ho ga

KHUSH RAHIN
WASALAM!

[Shaim]

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haan ham mush dor se pehle bhi ghulam hi the ham ne america ke kehne par taliban ko mujahideen karar de kar russia ke khilaf jung lari or aaj bhi amrica ke kehne par unhi taliban ko jo kal tak mujahid the aaj dehshat gard karar de dia or bush ki so called war against terror me us ke front line itehadi ban gae (ager apni aik azaad soch hoti to aik baar to sochte k kal jin ko mujahid kehte the aaj kis mooh se unhi ko dehshat gard keh rahe hen serf is leay k america keh raha he)lekin aik baat zarur he k jis tarah musharaf ke dor me amrica ko khul kar game karne ka moka mila he us se pehle esa nahi tha.is leay ham keh sakte hen k ager ghulami me koi kasar reh gai thi to wo mr musharaf ne puri kar di

is it Mujahideen ko Talibaan qarar diya???

Rite....i got u,yani is ghulaami mai ik taweel arsa lga hai humin.
log sanwarny k lye waqt or sadyaan lgaty hain or humny bigarny mai hi kitni sadyan or waqt khoo diya....anyhow bus ab aagy berhna hi hamara maqsad hona chahye per apna MADHAB ko thaam kr.

u see hum jitna ISLAM se door hooty gae utna hi tabahi ki janib berhty gae.
ALLAH TAALA HUMIN APNI QURBAT DE OR HIDAYAT BHI AMEEN!

KHUSH RAHYYE SIS..!:rose

[Shaim]

Re: 14th AUG Special DEBATE: Azadi....Kiya Hum Azad Hain.....?

bloo sis n arifkarim Bhai.......Thx 4 sharing ur views.:rose
i ll catch u ppl soon INSHALLAH:thmbup:

KHUSH RAHYYE HAMESHA!:)