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    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...9-5-2007_pg1_9

    meray liya yeh bohat mushkil hay is ko even yahan likhna bi
    lakin koi bata sakta hay key kia yeh hadees wakey mojood hay
    and second kia yeh interpretation teek hay

    link dey dia hay wahan per per lain
    People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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    Re: new fitna in muslim world

    jnab link see behtarr hotaa agar aap sabb kuch likh deteee
    "Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? "

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    • #3
      Re: new fitna in muslim world

      Originally posted by sarfraz_qamar View Post
      jnab link see behtarr hotaa agar aap sabb kuch likh deteee
      yahan key moderators is ko discuss kernay ki jaga , delete ker dein gay , i know
      People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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      • #4
        Re: new fitna in muslim world

        Originally posted by tauruskhan View Post
        yahan key moderators is ko discuss kernay ki jaga , delete ker dein gay , i know
        hmm
        taurus khan ??? kya delete hua hai aap ki posts mey sey??
        " Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off your goals "

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        • #5
          Re: new fitna in muslim world

          o bhaii i think aap koo tafseel kee sath likhnnay kee zaroorat haiii aoor jahann takk mods kayy delete kaa talaa haii to aisee ghaltt posts matt lagaoo jooo mutnaziaa aoor pegham.com kayy asooloon kayy munafee hoo
          "Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? "

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          • #6
            Re: new fitna in muslim world

            Originally posted by yellowsky View Post
            hmm
            taurus khan ??? kya delete hua hai aap ki posts mey sey??
            behan meri
            mein keh raha hoon key ager wo main yahan direct likh doon to delete ho jaey ga
            People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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            • #7
              Re: UPDATES: New fitna in muslim world

              i m shocked.......
              koi aisa soch bhi kese sakta hai.....
              i dont know hamary Scholars koi bhi decision deny se pehly ye q nahi sochte k hum unhe SCHOLAR kehte hain.......to atleast dekh ker decision lain

              ALLAH TAALA HUMIN HIDAYAT DE...OR HUMIN AQAL RAKHNE WAALY SAHEE MAANON MAI SCHOLARS DE.........HAMARE IMAAN KO MAZBOOTI DE AMEEN!

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              • #8
                Re: new fitna in muslim world

                Originally posted by sarfraz_qamar View Post
                o bhaii i think aap koo tafseel kee sath likhnnay kee zaroorat haiii aoor jahann takk mods kayy delete kaa talaa haii to aisee ghaltt posts matt lagaoo jooo mutnaziaa aoor pegham.com kayy asooloon kayy munafee hoo
                bahi meray , app us link per jaoo , and pero , key wo fatwa jis hadees ki base per dia gia hay , kia wakey wo hadees majood hay ya naeen
                mujeh to yakeen naeen aa raha
                People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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                • #9
                  Re: UPDATES: New fitna in muslim world

                  Originally posted by tauruskhan View Post
                  http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...9-5-2007_pg1_9

                  meray liya yeh bohat mushkil hay is ko even yahan likhna bi
                  lakin koi bata sakta hay key kia yeh hadees wakey mojood hay
                  and second kia yeh interpretation teek hay

                  link dey dia hay wahan per per lain

                  Accha kiya jo directly yahan nahi likha......
                  mujeh aise koi bhi HADEES nahi pata jo is ko sahee kahy
                  n secondly ye interpretation ISLAM mai ho hi nahi sakti.....

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                  • #10
                    Re: UPDATES: New fitna in muslim world

                    Originally posted by Me Here View Post
                    Accha kiya jo directly yahan nahi likha......
                    mujeh aise koi bhi HADEES nahi pata jo is ko sahee kahy
                    n secondly ye interpretation ISLAM mai ho hi nahi sakti.....
                    now i have got that hadees
                    but i will ask TheMask and aabi2cool to check the authenticity of this hadees kindly and then bring the reality to us

                    http://www.iiu.edu.my/deed/hadith/muslim/008_smt.html

                    Sahih Muslim Book 8, Number 3424:

                    '
                    Last edited by tauruskhan; 15 June 2007, 21:23.
                    People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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                    • #11
                      Re: UPDATES: New fitna in muslim world

                      Originally posted by tauruskhan View Post
                      now i have got that hadees
                      but i will ask TheMask and aabi2cool to check the authenticity of this hadees kindly and then bring the reality to us

                      http://www.iiu.edu.my/deed/hadith/muslim/008_smt.html

                      Sahih Muslim Book 8, Number 3424:

                      '

                      mujeh nahi samajh aya

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                      • #12
                        Re: UPDATES: New fitna in muslim world

                        Originally posted by Me Here View Post
                        mujeh nahi samajh aya
                        have you read that hadees or not
                        People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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                        • #13
                          Re: UPDATES: New fitna in muslim world

                          Originally posted by tauruskhan View Post
                          have you read that hadees or not
                          mujeh wo HADEES nahi mili :pagal:
                          or baaqi bhi mujeh kuch khaas nahi saamajh a raha :(

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                          • #14
                            Re: UPDATES: New fitna in muslim world

                            Originally posted by Me Here View Post
                            mujeh wo HADEES nahi mili :pagal:
                            or baaqi bhi mujeh kuch khaas nahi saamajh a raha :(
                            These are the ahadees , on which fatwaa was given to get rid of viel in office
                            PM me if you still don't understand



                            Book 8, Number 3424:
                            ' A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be eupon him) and said: Messengerof Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him.She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man?Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man 'Amr has made this addition in his narration that he participated in the Battle of Badr and in the narration of Ibn 'Umar (the words are): Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) laughed.
                            Book 8, Number 3426:
                            Ibn Abu Mulaika reported that al-Qasim b. Muhammad b. Abu Bakr had narrated to him that 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail b. 'Amr came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, Salim (the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa) is living with us in our house, and he has attained (puberty) as men attain it and has acquired knowledge (of the sex problems) as men acquire, whereupon he said: Suckle him so that he may become unlawful (in regard to marriage) for you He (Ibn Abu Mulaika) said: I refrained from (narrating this hadith) for a year or so on account of fear.I then met al-Qasim and said to him: You narrated to me a hadith which I did not narrate (to anyone) afterwards.He said: What is that? I informed him, whereupon he said: Narrate it on my authority that 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) had narrated that to me.

                            Book 8, Number 3427:
                            Umm Salama said to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her): A young boy who is at the threshold of puberty comes to you. I, however, do not like that he should come to me, whereupon 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) said: Don't you see in Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) a model for you? She also said: The wife of Abu Hudhaifa said: Messenger of Allah, Salim comes to me and now he is a (grown-up) person, and there is something that (rankles) in the mind of Abu Hudhaifa about him, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him (so that he may become your foster-child), and thus he may be able to come to you (freely).

                            Book 8, Number 3428:
                            Zainab daughter of Abu Salama reported: I heard Umm Salama, the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon himy, saying to 'A'isha: By Allah, I do not like to be seen by a young boy who has passed the period of fosterage, whereupon she ('A'isha) said: Why is it so?Sahla daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Allah's Messenger, I swear by Allah that I see in the face of Abu Hudhaifa (the signs of disgust) on account of entering of Salim (in the house), whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him.She (Sahla bint Suhail) said: He has a heard.But he (again) said: Suckle him, and it would remove what is there (expression of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa.She said: (I did that) and, by Allah, I did not see (any sign of disgust)on the face of Abu Hadhaifa.
                            Last edited by tauruskhan; 21 June 2007, 10:08.
                            People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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                            • #15
                              Re: UPDATES: New fitna in muslim world

                              now i got it
                              but i m not sure
                              i m tensed :(

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