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  • #16
    Re: students raid brothel

    Originally posted by sarfraz_qamar View Post
    zarooree too nahee kehh koii agar ghlat kaa m karee to uss kaa hall bhee ghalat tareeqayy see hall kiaa jayee
    main bhee Govt kee iss act koo ghalat samjhtaa hoo magarr yehh too dekhain kehh saree amal see faidaa kiss koo poohanch rahaa haii meree khial main iss amal Parvezz Govt koo mazeed mazboot karr rahaa haii iss saree prossess ko international media boht ziada hilight karr rahaa haii aoor Musharaf Amarica aor Western countries koo yehh bawarr karwaa rahaa haii kehh abhee Talbanization iss countrty main moojood haii iss lieyy aap meree kirdar ko nazarandaz nahee karr sakatay .....
    aoor jahan takk doosaray Aalim kaa talq haii mulanaa naeemee uss nayy yehh baat GEO kee Parogram MERE MUTABIQ mian kahee jiss kee mezban hain DR Shahid Masood .......
    aoor jahan tak Gahamdee sahib kaa talqq haii main iss parr kuch nahee kehh saktaa kunkehh main unn kee baree main ziadaa nahee jantaa

    Ji Bhai zaroori nahi.......per ab mujeh atleast is mamle mai zaroori lgne laga hai:)
    Musharraf q strong hoony lga is sab se?
    kiya log nahi jante k ye sab q hoa?
    Musharraf uncle ne kia kiyya tha.............or ye uska jawab hai
    musharraf uncle Pakistan ko America mai convert kerne ki successful attempts ker rahy hain......to hum usko bachaany k lye ik liberary per bhi threat nahi ker sakte?
    women bill paas ker k AURAT ko mazeed gira diya gya.......or hum ik library bhi nahi apne qabze mai rakh sakte?

    Bhai chup reh ker kab kuch hoa hai?
    jahan aksaryat ghlt ho.........BURAE AAM ho gae ho.......wahan mujeh batain ik lib per qabza kiya maaini rakhta hai jahaan ik president ne hamari poori country per qabza kiya hoa hai?

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    • #17
      Re: students raid brothel

      Originally posted by Me Here View Post
      Ji Bhai zaroori nahi.......per ab mujeh atleast is mamle mai zaroori lgne laga hai:)
      Musharraf q strong hoony lga is sab se?
      kiya log nahi jante k ye sab q hoa?
      Musharraf uncle ne kia kiyya tha.............or ye uska jawab hai
      musharraf uncle Pakistan ko America mai convert kerne ki successful attempts ker rahy hain......to hum usko bachaany k lye ik liberary per bhi threat nahi ker sakte?
      women bill paas ker k AURAT ko mazeed gira diya gya.......or hum ik library bhi nahi apne qabze mai rakh sakte?

      Bhai chup reh ker kab kuch hoa hai?
      jahan aksaryat ghlt ho.........BURAE AAM ho gae ho.......wahan mujeh batain ik lib per qabza kiya maaini rakhta hai jahaan ik president ne hamari poori country per qabza kiya hoa hai?
      main ahtajaj kee iss tareeqa ke bailkol bhee haq main nahee hoooo yehh sabb kuch hamm muslims koo all world main badnamm karnay kee leiy kafee haii ahtajaj karnay kee aoor bhee bohtt sayy tareeqay hoo skatay hainn aap kisee koo khood see sazaa nahee dee saktay kisee koo sazaa denee kaa haq sirf aoor sirf govt kaa hotaa haiii
      and 2nd u r the only 1 woman jiss kee moonhh see main woman protection biill koo ghalat kehtayy hoieyy suun rahaa hoo warnaa ......................
      "Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? "

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      • #18
        Re: students raid brothel

        Originally posted by Me Here View Post
        Musharraf q strong hoony lga is sab se?
        kiya log nahi jante k ye sab q hoa?
        Musharraf uncle ne kia kiyya tha.............or ye uska jawab hai
        musharraf uncle Pakistan ko America mai convert kerne ki successful attempts ker rahy hain......to hum usko bachaany k lye ik liberary per bhi threat nahi ker sakte?
        problem to yahi hay , Pakistan azad honey kay bawajood azad naeen hay
        do you know why
        because american government and Pakistani generals , sisastdan except imran khan
        thinks pakistan as one of the state of USA
        and yahan government america ki marzi key bagair change naeen hoti
        and this is very strong point for musharaf key ager
        wo gia to yeh taliban pakistan per kabiz ho jaeen gay
        so meray iktadar ki madad karoo
        so in my point of view this protest was helping musharaf
        People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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        • #19
          Re: students raid brothel

          Originally posted by sarfraz_qamar View Post
          main ahtajaj kee iss tareeqa ke bailkol bhee haq main nahee hoooo yehh sabb kuch hamm muslims koo all world main badnamm karnay kee leiy kafee haii ahtajaj karnay kee aoor bhee bohtt sayy tareeqay hoo skatay hainn aap kisee koo khood see sazaa nahee dee saktay kisee koo sazaa denee kaa haq sirf aoor sirf govt kaa hotaa haiii
          and 2nd u r the only 1 woman jiss kee moonhh see main woman protection biill koo ghalat kehtayy hoieyy suun rahaa hoo warnaa ......................
          yaar every muslim women is against that bill because
          that bill was prostitutes protection bill not the women protection bill by the musharaf and co
          People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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          • #20
            Re: students raid brothel

            Originally posted by filbahere View Post
            problem to yahi hay , Pakistan azad honey kay bawajood azad naeen hay
            do you know why
            because american government and Pakistani generals , sisastdan except imran khan
            thinks pakistan as one of the state of USA
            and yahan government america ki marzi key bagair change naeen hoti
            and this is very strong point for musharaf key ager
            wo gia to yeh taliban pakistan per kabiz ho jaeen gay
            so meray iktadar ki madad karoo
            so in my point of view this protest was helping musharaf
            yaaa u r saying right and i agree u
            main yehe etoo kehnaa chahh rahaa hoo kehh yeehhh protese musharaf yaa govt koo kamzoor karnayy kee bajayee unhain mazeed mazboot banaa rahaa haiii aoor islam bhee iss chezze kee ijazat nahee detaa
            Molana Taqee Usmanee sahib eik boht baree aalamm e din hain unhoon nee bhee iss ke mukhalifat kee haiiii
            Jamia kee Talibat jinn kee Mind abhee napukhtaa hainn unn koo chandd loog apnay mafad kee khatir use karr rahayy hain aoor kuchh nahee
            "Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? "

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            • #21
              Re: students raid brothel

              Originally posted by sarfraz_qamar View Post
              yaaa u r saying right and i agree u
              main yehe etoo kehnaa chahh rahaa hoo kehh yeehhh protese musharaf yaa govt koo kamzoor karnayy kee bajayee unhain mazeed mazboot banaa rahaa haiii aoor islam bhee iss chezze kee ijazat nahee detaa
              Molana Taqee Usmanee sahib eik boht baree aalamm e din hain unhoon nee bhee iss ke mukhalifat kee haiiii
              Jamia kee Talibat jinn kee Mind abhee napukhtaa hainn unn koo chandd loog apnay mafad kee khatir use karr rahayy hain aoor kuchh nahee
              i will not say key napukhta hain
              but i will say key something wrong going on somewhere else
              yeh sub log to apney deen key liya ker rahey haan ,we should appreciate them , but must tell them some how that what they are doing is benefiting musharaf

              there is another possibility as well
              BB is making deal with musharaf
              might be these people behind this islamic school are playing on her behalf to get support from America as she normally utter in BBC or CNN interview that taliban are getting organized in pakistan more and more, give me chance i will get rid of them. We have seen some currupt mullah like molana diesel fazalur rehman working for BB and now doing double work both in government and oposition

              all these so far are conspiracy theories that can be true or not but surely going against what islam wants
              the students must have to see this as well
              People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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              • #22
                Re: students raid brothel

                Originally posted by sarfraz_qamar View Post
                main ahtajaj kee iss tareeqa ke bailkol bhee haq main nahee hoooo yehh sabb kuch hamm muslims koo all world main badnamm karnay kee leiy kafee haii ahtajaj karnay kee aoor bhee bohtt sayy tareeqay hoo skatay hainn aap kisee koo khood see sazaa nahee dee saktay kisee koo sazaa denee kaa haq sirf aoor sirf govt kaa hotaa haiii
                and 2nd u r the only 1 woman jiss kee moonhh see main woman protection biill koo ghalat kehtayy hoieyy suun rahaa hoo warnaa ......................
                well i got u now......
                ehtijaj ka tareeqa ghalt is lye hai k hum MUSLIMS badnaam ho jain ge or ho rahy hain all over the world........otherwise is govt k sath is se bhi bura hona chahye!

                women protection bill ki detail maine apni teacher se request per perhi thi....or wo women protection kahin se bhi nahi........balky it was to provide easy ways to spread the devil

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                • #23
                  Re: students raid brothel

                  Originally posted by filbahere View Post
                  problem to yahi hay , Pakistan azad honey kay bawajood azad naeen hay
                  do you know why
                  because american government and Pakistani generals , sisastdan except imran khan
                  thinks pakistan as one of the state of USA
                  and yahan government america ki marzi key bagair change naeen hoti
                  and this is very strong point for musharaf key ager
                  wo gia to yeh taliban pakistan per kabiz ho jaeen gay
                  so meray iktadar ki madad karoo
                  so in my point of view this protest was helping musharaf

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                  • #24
                    Re: students raid brothel

                    Originally posted by sarfraz_qamar View Post
                    yaaa u r saying right and i agree u
                    main yehe etoo kehnaa chahh rahaa hoo kehh yeehhh protese musharaf yaa govt koo kamzoor karnayy kee bajayee unhain mazeed mazboot banaa rahaa haiii aoor islam bhee iss chezze kee ijazat nahee detaa
                    Molana Taqee Usmanee sahib eik boht baree aalamm e din hain unhoon nee bhee iss ke mukhalifat kee haiiii
                    Jamia kee Talibat jinn kee Mind abhee napukhtaa hainn unn koo chandd loog apnay mafad kee khatir use karr rahayy hain aoor kuchh nahee
                    yupz Maulana Taqi Usmani ko to aj kal main bhi perh rahi hoon n he is really a brilliant Scholar.......per koi solution? k hamara kam bhi ho jae n govt mazboot bhi na ho pae?

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                    • #25
                      Re: students raid brothel

                      Originally posted by filbahere View Post
                      i will not say key napukhta hain
                      but i will say key something wrong going on somewhere else
                      yeh sub log to apney deen key liya ker rahey haan ,we should appreciate them , but must tell them some how that what they are doing is benefiting musharaf

                      there is another possibility as well
                      BB is making deal with musharaf
                      might be these people behind this islamic school are playing on her behalf to get support from America as she normally utter in BBC or CNN interview that taliban are getting organized in pakistan more and more, give me chance i will get rid of them. We have seen some currupt mullah like molana diesel fazalur rehman working for BB and now doing double work both in government and oposition

                      all these so far are conspiracy theories that can be true or not but surely going against what islam wants
                      the students must have to see this as well


                      :thmbup: :thmbup:

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                      • #26
                        Re: students raid brothel

                        Originally posted by Me Here View Post
                        :thmbup: :thmbup:
                        :thmbup: :thmbup:
                        People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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                        • #27
                          Re: MUBAHISA: students raid brothel

                          well aj bhi kaafi logon se is per discuss kiya.......:)
                          ap log protest k is tareeqy ko ghalat kehte hain.......
                          mujeh plz sahee tareeqa bataye ga......khaamoshi k ilawa
                          WAITING!:)

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                          • #28
                            Re: MUBAHISA: students raid brothel

                            Originally posted by Me Here View Post
                            well aj bhi kaafi logon se is per discuss kiya.......:)
                            ap log protest k is tareeqy ko ghalat kehte hain.......
                            mujeh plz sahee tareeqa bataye ga......khaamoshi k ilawa
                            WAITING!:)
                            jo hona tha ho gia
                            ab dehkna hay key agey kia hota hay

                            hakomat nay azadey rahey per aik dafa pir kari zarb lagai hay

                            lalmasjid waloon ki webside block ker key
                            www.lalmasjid.org ko PTA ney block ker dia hay
                            it is just like attack on GEO
                            lets see what come next

                            one thing nice to hear
                            students of madrasah are buying blue flims and burning
                            there are no threats to them
                            just buying and then burning
                            People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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                            • #29
                              Re: MUBAHISA: students raid brothel

                              Originally posted by Me Here View Post
                              well aj bhi kaafi logon se is per discuss kiya.......:)
                              ap log protest k is tareeqy ko ghalat kehte hain.......
                              mujeh plz sahee tareeqa bataye ga......khaamoshi k ilawa
                              WAITING!:)
                              meree khial main eik chotee see libraray pqrr qabzaa karnayy yaa pheerr chand loogoon koo yargamal banaa leneyy see islam iss mulk main nafiz nahee hoo saktaa
                              jamis Hafza waloon koo islam nafiz karnay kee lieyy moojooda tareeqa choor kar(choonkeh iss main kamiabee kaa koii amkan nahe balkah nuqsan kaa nadeshaa ghalib haii) Denee siasee jamatoon aorr ghair siaseee dinee jamatoon kee sath mill karr iss mulk main islam kee faroogh kee lieyy kooshish karain
                              jaisee yehh jamia hafsaa walay islam kaa nifaz chahtay haii isee tarh yehh yehh jamatain bhee yehee kuchh chhatee hain aoor iss kee lieyy kooshish bhee karr rahee hainn lihazaa jaab sabb kaa maqsad eikk hee hoo gaa too iss azeemm kaam kee liey kooshishain bhee ikathee kee jainn gee to iss see awam kaa tawaan bhee hasill hoo gaa aorr zabardast qoowat muhiaa hoo gee qurbanian too denee hoo gee lakin maqsad kaa hasool bhee zaroor hoo gaa
                              "Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? "

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                              • #30
                                Re: MUBAHISA: students raid brothel

                                Originally posted by filbahere View Post
                                Asalam-0-Alikum
                                app logon ki kia rahey hay is khabar key barey main
                                did the girls do the right thing or not


                                ------------------------ new edition
                                now i need some more information
                                i also like what the girls have done but there are some questions in my mind


                                keeping your point of view , answer some of these question

                                1.why this happen at the time when the Government of Mushraf was in danger , and gives the clues in american press that if mushraf will go these people will take over.Does these girls are doing this good work on the call of musharaf to save him

                                2.why the police suddenly becomse so sofisticated
                                at one side we see them violent and attacking GEO , abusing Chief Justice etc and second moment becomes sofisticated and not attacking at madrassah and showing that they are very professional and knows how to deal these type of problems

                                Although i liked what the girls do , because government was doing nothing about these brothel etc but why now ? is there any reason for this time

                                i hope you people will answer in this respect as well
                                es mozoo per aap log kafi behas ker chukey hain ham bus itna kahen gey k let's analyze aaya inn logon ney apney matabaat manwaney k liye sahi tareeqa muntkhib kiya hai. protest register karana aik aur muaamla tha lakin ISLAM k nafaz k liye qanoon ko hath mein lena extermism hai. ISLAM talwaar k zore per nahi phela aur jis tarah Shariyat k nafaz ki koshish ki ja rahi hai koi bhi zee hosh insan es ko appreciate nahin karey ga.
                                jahan tak ham samjhtey hain shru mein ye entirely aik madrasey ki talbaat ka apney jaiz mutalbey k liye ehtjaj tha lakin uss k baad es muaamley ko politicise kiya gaya aur ye kerney waley koi aur nahi woh log hain jin k hathon se ikhtayr ki dore nikal rahi hai ya woh jo chore rastey se iqtdaar hasil kerney ki koshish ker rahey hain...yani Musharaf govt already Iftkhar Ch case ki waja se mushkil mein thi. just 2 weeks back USA ka bayan aya tha jo khuli indication de raha tha k mojooda govt k din poorey ho chukey. so in such circusmstances it's a good strategy to reveal USA Gurus somehow that Talibanization is grasping roots in Pakistan and as all kno k Afghanistan aur phir Pak mein bhi Taliban k khilaf Musharaf ney he unn ka sath diya tha so es maslay ko deal kerney k liye bhi aik dictator hand he chahye. so there is a great chance of agencies involvement in highlighting and magnifying this issue. werna aik taraf tou hamari police aur qanoon itna bay khuf hai k mulk ki sab sey qabil-e-ehtram seat per bethey shskhs ko balon se ghasstney sey bhi ehtraaz nahin kerti aur doosri taraf LAL MASJID aur Jamia HAFSA k liye itni nermi kia maani rakhti hai. jab NWFP aur Tribal Areas mein Madrasahs k khilaf action kiya gaya tha tab tou ye nahin socha gaya tha k wahan masoom buchey perrhtey hain tou ab??? esi tarah ager last week mein NAB k uss deptt k band jiye janey ko bhi zehan mein rakha jaye jo PPP ki head k khilaf saboot ikathey ker raha tha aur phir aaj ka BIBI ka byan k unn mein aur Musharaf govt mein deal ho rahi hai tou sab k sirey aik he jaga miltey hain..BIBI es March mein ye bhi bayan de chuki hain k sirf wohi iqtdar mein aa ker aik LIBRAL govt tashkeel de sakti hain jo Fundamentalism ko khatam kerney k liye bhot zaroori hai
                                jahan tak in talibaat k Library per qabzey ka taaluq hai tou plz koi humain ye bataye k Islam ney ye kab kaha hai k jis shay mein Islam ka naam nahin aata uss ko tehas nehas ker dou. ho sakta hai ham apney point of view ko wazya kerney k liye darust aflaz estmaal nahi ker sak rahey lakin ham sirf ye kehtey hain k jab Islam ney non muslims ko masjid tak mein aaney ki ijazat de rakhi hai k shayed hamarey husn-e-salook se mutasir ho ker woh Islam ki roshni ko apna len tou who we are to decide.. ham kesey fatwa de saktey hain k koi munafiq hai...aap log dunya ko Islam se mutnafer ker rahey hain. kisi bhi rawaye ko apnaney sey pehley uss k tamam pehloo per ghore kerna zaroori hai. jitney qabil-e-ehtram ULMA hain mulk mein unn sab ney es rawaye ki mazamat ki hai. ager es tarah her koi apne apne khyal k mutabiq shariyat ka nafaz kareny lag jaye tou everything will turn into a mess.
                                jin auraton ko pakker ker ley jaya gaya woh yaqeenan ikhlaqi aur social buraae phela rahi hun gi lakin haqeeqat pasandi sey jaiza liya jaye tou humain bataye k kiya es rawaye ney unn k khyalat ko change kiya ho ga?? kabhi nahin ager woh naqab pehan ker media k samney aae hain tou sirf force kiye janey ki waja sey.werna ussi lady ney baad mein aik interview mein kaha hai k woh bayan sirf der aur khuaf ki waja sey diya tha. kisi ko burae sey hataney k liye uss per zaberdasti kerna masley ka hal nahin hai bulkey uss k dil mein apney terz e amal se burae ko burae samjney k jazbaat peda kerna zaroori hai aur ye aik raat mein nahi ho jata. it requires long consistent efforts.
                                ho sakta hai aap logon ko hamari baat se ihtlaf ho aur aap humain bhi koi so called ROSHAN KHYAL samjhein laikin lemme tell u k hum shayed bhot sey logon se zayada fundamentlist hain lakin fundametalism aur extremism mein bhot farq hota hai. apni bunyadon ko follow kerna bhot achi baat hai lakin uss mein extremism ikhtyar kerna sara sir ghalat. Islam ney mayanarawi ki talqeen ki hai her mumaaley mein.
                                maqsad koi bhi ho jab woh ghalat hathon mein chala jaye tou apni credibilty kho bethta hai aur yehi kuch aaj kal Islamabd k hot issue mein ho raha hai. Jamia Hafsa aur Lal Masjid walon ney apna asal maqsad kho diya hai ..zaroorat hai sahi guidance ki. change hamesha grass root level sey aata hai. apni society ko aik mukamal ISLAMIC society mein change kerney k liye danda nahi bulkey aam insan ki soch tabdeel kerney ki zaroorat hai aur woh aati hai taleem se. so ager yehi log tareeqey sey aam awam ki tawaja grasp karen tou believe me PAKISTAN kuch he salon mein aik true ISLAMIC STATE ho ga..lakin es k liye time and patience chahye


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