MUBAHISA: Ulma Ikram Per Tanqeed ?

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[aabi2cool]

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mujhy aap ki sab batoon se ittifaq hy....

[Z.]

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Baat bilkul theek hai The Mask magar aap ye bhi to point out karein Ab logon ney Tanqeed kyun shuru ker di hai pehley to aeysa nahi tha??

[aabi2cool]

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Baat bilkul theek hai The Mask magar aap ye bhi to point out karein Ab logon ney Tanqeed kyun shuru ker di hai pehley to aeysa nahi tha??

mery khial main ziyada tar la,ilmi ki wajha se tanqeed karty hain....

[Muhammad Khalil]

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sab sy bari tankeed
Qoal aur fehal main tazad hay...

aur Ulma kee apps main hee jealuosy hay.......

[Aania]

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Baat bilkul theek hai The Mask magar aap ye bhi to point out karein Ab logon ney Tanqeed kyun shuru ker di hai pehley to aeysa nahi tha??

bohat simple sa clue hai samajhdaaron ke liye ..
Firqa wariyat se jala deney ka plan hai .. koz jitni tezi se dunya main islam phel raha hai aur koi bhi mazhab nahen ... Sincerely, jitni baat har class main muslims, muslim woman rights, muslims activities pe hoti hai kisi aur pe kion nahen ?
muslim aap ke samney kharra hai aap usey jo merzi bol do wo sunta jaye ga ..chahey kuch bhi
kisi eesaii/yahoodi ke mazhab pe wesi tanqeed baraye naam bhi koi karey to phansi ka mustahiq, behan simple si baat hai .. musalmanon ko apney aap ko kaatney se apney aap ko tafreeq main bantney ke siwa kuch yaad nahen reh gia ..
Recent news: islamabad main 100 years old masjiden shaheed ki jaa rahi hain >>kion ?? even its been said by amendments in the history n laws of PK that .. mosques older than PK are already legalized .. ab kis ne kion ker legal documents ghayeb ker diye .. ??

jahan aam insaan ki izzat nahen mazhab main tafarqa wariyat ki jangen hon, wahan sha'oor kahan hai ?? aqal kahan hai ?? ke kisi ko sujhayee de sakey ke aaalim e deen ki kia value hai

har aik musalmaan ko apney dil se tafarqa door kerney ki ashad zaroorat hai ...Khuda ki di huii thorri ya ziada rizq main barkat chahye wo larayon se nahen aata ... pehley karachi phir pishawar ab islamabad .. Khuda ke liye bacha lo khud ko tootney bikharney se ... Yazeed khud hukmaran ban ke betha hai .. bas ham ne aankhen band ker rakhi hain .. jitni aankhen khulen gi utni ziada laashen bichen gi .. Allah reham kerey sar zameen e Pakistan per aameen .. Allah reham fermaaye musalmanon per aameen ..

[Z.]

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bohat simple sa clue hai samajhdaaron ke liye ..
Firqa wariyat se jala deney ka plan hai .. koz jitni tezi se dunya main islam phel raha hai aur koi bhi mazhab nahen ... Sincerely, jitni baat har class main muslims, muslim woman rights, muslims activities pe hoti hai kisi aur pe kion nahen ?
muslim aap ke samney kharra hai aap usey jo merzi bol do wo sunta jaye ga ..chahey kuch bhi
kisi eesaii/yahoodi ke mazhab pe wesi tanqeed baraye naam bhi koi karey to phansi ka mustahiq, behan simple si baat hai .. musalmanon ko apney aap ko kaatney se apney aap ko tafreeq main bantney ke siwa kuch yaad nahen reh gia ..
Recent news: islamabad main 100 years old masjiden shaheed ki jaa rahi hain >>kion ?? even its been said by amendments in the history n laws of PK that .. mosques older than PK are already legalized .. ab kis ne kion ker legal documents ghayeb ker diye .. ??

jahan aam insaan ki izzat nahen mazhab main tafarqa wariyat ki jangen hon, wahan sha'oor kahan hai ?? aqal kahan hai ?? ke kisi ko sujhayee de sakey ke aaalim e deen ki kia value hai

har aik musalmaan ko apney dil se tafarqa door kerney ki ashad zaroorat hai ...Khuda ki di huii thorri ya ziada rizq main barkat chahye wo larayon se nahen aata ... pehley karachi phir pishawar ab islamabad .. Khuda ke liye bacha lo khud ko tootney bikharney se ... Yazeed khud hukmaran ban ke betha hai .. bas ham ne aankhen band ker rakhi hain .. jitni aankhen khulen gi utni ziada laashen bichen gi .. Allah reham kerey sar zameen e Pakistan per aameen .. Allah reham fermaaye musalmanon per aameen ..

Aania i wont comment

us ki reason ye hai key ye Behass hi rahey gi aur mey just for the sake of Behass kuch bhi nahi kehna chahti

leykin meyrey sawal ka ye jawab nahi banta tha....

khush raho

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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Please make correction Aalam ke lafzi maani ilm rakhnay wala he..is mein deeni taleem aur dunyaavi taleem ki koi shik nahi he aur na he Aalam ke ba-amal honay ki shik ki.

lekin hum aalam wali terminology ko deeni ilm se mahooz kerte hein...haalanke usay Aalam-e-deen kehna chahiye

[RulzZ]

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mery khial main ziyada tar la,ilmi ki wajha se tanqeed karty hain....

Qaum kia cheez hai, QaumoN ki imamat kia hai,,
is ko kia samjhaiN yeh becharay 2 rak'at kay imam...!!
yeh Allama Iqbal ka shair hai....
is shair ki tashreeh bohot sada hai, magar aap koi taveel paish karna chahaiN to Bismillah :rose

[RulzZ]

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Please make correction Aalam ke lafzi maani ilm rakhnay wala he..is mein deeni taleem aur dunyaavi taleem ki koi shik nahi he aur na he Aalam ke ba-amal honay ki shik ki.

lekin hum aalam wali terminology ko deeni ilm se mahooz kerte hein...haalanke usay Aalam-e-deen kehna chahiye

Agreed !!
Jis shaks kay pass elm ho woh Aalim he kehlaiy ga..

[Masood]

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Qaum kia cheez hai, QaumoN ki imamat kia hai,,
is ko kia samjhaiN yeh becharay 2 rak'at kay imam...!!
yeh Allama Iqbal ka shair hai....
is shair ki tashreeh bohot sada hai, magar aap koi taveel paish karna chahaiN to Bismillah :rose

Allama to chalak ko BHI kehtey hain :mm:

[Masood]

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Assalamo allaikum Khurram

Saal ha saal ki kitabein parh leney sey ya degrees hasil kar leney sey insaan aalim nahin ban jata. (Imaam Ghazali RA ney 40 saal tak ilm ki talash ki aur khud ko aalim nahin kaha, yeh unkey baad key logon ney unhein kaha tha). Meri adna si soch key mutabiq ilm be'amal jahalat hai aur amal be'ilm andheron mein thokrein khana hai....

Hamari aik bad'naseebi yeh hai keh har doosra bandah aalim hai. Chunkeh fatwa dena siraf aur siraf aik aalim ka kaam hota hai, lehaza har doosri masjid mein jab aik maulvi uth ker fatwa laga deta hai to is liye keh woh khud ko aalim samajhta hai - yehi baat hamein phir us taqeed ki janib ley jati hai jo ULMAA per ki jati hai. (Asal mein ULMAA ka fuqdaan hai, naam'nehad degrees waley ulmaa ki aksariyat hai - main degrees ko faqat aik paper ki hasiyat sey janta hoon jiski siraf yeh oqat hai keh yeh aap ko job dilwaney mein madadgar sabit hoti hai - degrees is baat ka saboot nahin keh aap us kaam key MAHIR (yani aalim) hain)

[RulzZ]

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Allama to chalak ko BHI kehtey hain :mm:

to is maiN koi shak hai