Mubahisa: Islam aur Hakumat

[fari]

Main phir sey aik baat kahoon ga keh ANA aur KHUD'DARI mein bohat kam faasla hai. Khudi sey apni shanakhat karo, jab apni shanakhat ho jaey to uski ana sey hifazat karo. Aik misaal: Yahan ki hakoomat hai (Denmark ki) inhon ney apni shanakhat as DANES ki kar li hai, jis per inhein fakher hai, inhon ney iski hifazat key liye AAIN bnaya jo aaj sey koi 160 saal pehley bana tha, us aain mein SIRAF teen baar tarmeem ki gaii hai 160 salon mei, woh bhi isliye keh waqt badala hai. Ab yeh hakoomat ana sey uski hifazat karti hai.

Hamarey mulk mein har do saal baad agar hakoomat badley to woh sab sey pehley aain mein tarameem karti hai, jo ghalat nahin, magar yeh log tarameem APNI hifazat key liye kartey hian, YAHAN per ana ghalat hai aur jhooti hai.

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Mai iss quote se aur Abbi bhai ki di hoi detail se ya Discuss karna chahti hon kah
Islami mulk kay Iqdar apnay constitutions /Rulzz Islam ka mutabik na ho Aur Mugribi constitution ya Rulzz apply kar ka mulk ko chalaya jay tu kiya ya sahi ha???????????kiya asa mulk khabi tarqi kar sakta ha ???uss ki hukmat chalanay walay jab Iqdar-e-Ala Alllah ki zaat ka bajay Apnay app ko samjhnay lagay aur Hakomat hasil karnay ki hirss or hawas ka shikar ho???
Kiya Asa mulk jo apnay Iqdar ya Apnay dean ko chor kar dosro ki nakal karnay ki kosish kartay hain .Kamyab hosaktay hain ?????

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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start se end tak perha...itna kahon ga ke

Cool down...hum musalmanon mein yahi kharaabi he ke hum baatein bari achi kerte hein...Baray achay words istamaal kerte hein ta ke sunanay walay ko bhi ishteyaal aa jaye...lekin kerte kuch bhi nahi...Be practical in ur approach...Ilm Hasil karo...tecnnology hasil karo. Sabi inhi chakron mein lagay hein ke Magrib yeh ker raha he zulm ker raha he...kia bakwaas he yeh...kia hum loog perh likh ker technology hasil ker ke un tak nahi pohanch saktay.

Hamein baat baat per Margib ko point out kerte sharam kyoon nahi aati...Yahi kasoor he na un ka ke wo Kafir hein...lekin hum muslamnaon se ziada suchay hein...hum se ziada mehanti hein...aur apna dimaag to atleast istamaal kerte hein. Allah ne hamein bhi dimaag diya he...lekin sad afsoos hum isay sahi istamaal kerne se hi kaasir hein.

So plz don't beat about the bushes ke hamari govt. magrib ki taraf ja rahi he ke mashrik ki taraf...ager wo koi acha kaam kerne ke liye bhi koi kadam uthati he to usay magrabi rawayaat se mansoob ker ke us ki taang khainch lete ho...Govt kia karay.

[RulzZ]

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start se end tak perha...itna kahon ga ke

Cool down...hum musalmanon mein yahi kharaabi he ke hum baatein bari achi kerte hein...Baray achay words istamaal kerte hein ta ke sunanay walay ko bhi ishteyaal aa jaye...lekin kerte kuch bhi nahi...Be practical in ur approach...Ilm Hasil karo...tecnnology hasil karo. Sabi inhi chakron mein lagay hein ke Magrib yeh ker raha he zulm ker raha he...kia bakwaas he yeh...kia hum loog perh likh ker technology hasil ker ke un tak nahi pohanch saktay.

Hamein baat baat per Margib ko point out kerte sharam kyoon nahi aati...Yahi kasoor he na un ka ke wo Kafir hein...lekin hum muslamnaon se ziada suchay hein...hum se ziada mehanti hein...aur apna dimaag to atleast istamaal kerte hein. Allah ne hamein bhi dimaag diya he...lekin sad afsoos hum isay sahi istamaal kerne se hi kaasir hein.

So plz don't beat about the bushes ke hamari govt. magrib ki taraf ja rahi he ke mashrik ki taraf...ager wo koi acha kaam kerne ke liye bhi koi kadam uthati he to usay magrabi rawayaat se mansoob ker ke us ki taang khainch lete ho...Govt kia karay.

dil ko lagti hai baat munday ki :wk, wesay "hum" main "tum" bhi shamil ho naa :mm:

[Salauddien Mengal]

Re: Islam aur Hakumat

main abhi thak samaj nahie pa raha hoon what is going on./

[aabi2cool]

Re: Islam aur Hakumat

start se end tak perha...itna kahon ga ke

Cool down...hum musalmanon mein yahi kharaabi he ke hum baatein bari achi kerte hein...Baray achay words istamaal kerte hein ta ke sunanay walay ko bhi ishteyaal aa jaye...lekin kerte kuch bhi nahi...Be practical in ur approach...Ilm Hasil karo...tecnnology hasil karo. Sabi inhi chakron mein lagay hein ke Magrib yeh ker raha he zulm ker raha he...kia bakwaas he yeh...kia hum loog perh likh ker technology hasil ker ke un tak nahi pohanch saktay.

Hamein baat baat per Margib ko point out kerte sharam kyoon nahi aati...Yahi kasoor he na un ka ke wo Kafir hein...lekin hum muslamnaon se ziada suchay hein...hum se ziada mehanti hein...aur apna dimaag to atleast istamaal kerte hein. Allah ne hamein bhi dimaag diya he...lekin sad afsoos hum isay sahi istamaal kerne se hi kaasir hein.

So plz don't beat about the bushes ke hamari govt. magrib ki taraf ja rahi he ke mashrik ki taraf...ager wo koi acha kaam kerne ke liye bhi koi kadam uthati he to usay magrabi rawayaat se mansoob ker ke us ki taang khainch lete ho...Govt kia karay.

aslamo alykum , payary munda ji , aik baat to bataiye aap dosron ko to cool down keh rahy hain aur khud jazbaat ki roo main itna behak gay hain k mohtarma ny jo sawal kiya hy us ka jawab ko to chuwa tak naheen .aur ulta muslim ummah ko kosny lag gay...bhai mery khiyal main sawaal fari ny ye kiya hy k aik islaam k naam par banny waly mulk main kaya islami qanoon hona chaiye ya magrabi (ya dosry lafzoon main gair islami)aur kaya aysa mulk jo apny deen ko chor kar dosron ki naqal kary aur mulk main ALLAH ki hukomat k bajay fard ki zati hukomat hojay to kaya wo mulk taraqi karsakta hy...is main magrab ko kis ny bura bhala kaha hy agar koi is sawal ki wajha se bura kehlay ga to wo hum khud hi hongy ya hamary apny islami aur masraqi hukmaraan.....:salam:

[fari]

Re: Islam aur Hakumat

start se end tak perha...itna kahon ga ke

Cool down...hum musalmanon mein yahi kharaabi he ke hum baatein bari achi kerte hein...Baray achay words istamaal kerte hein ta ke sunanay walay ko bhi ishteyaal aa jaye...lekin kerte kuch bhi nahi...Be practical in ur approach...Ilm Hasil karo...tecnnology hasil karo. Sabi inhi chakron mein lagay hein ke Magrib yeh ker raha he zulm ker raha he...kia bakwaas he yeh...kia hum loog perh likh ker technology hasil ker ke un tak nahi pohanch saktay.

Hamein baat baat per Margib ko point out kerte sharam kyoon nahi aati...Yahi kasoor he na un ka ke wo Kafir hein...lekin hum muslamnaon se ziada suchay hein...hum se ziada mehanti hein...aur apna dimaag to atleast istamaal kerte hein. Allah ne hamein bhi dimaag diya he...lekin sad afsoos hum isay sahi istamaal kerne se hi kaasir hein.

So plz don't beat about the bushes ke hamari govt. magrib ki taraf ja rahi he ke mashrik ki taraf...ager wo koi acha kaam kerne ke liye bhi koi kadam uthati he to usay magrabi rawayaat se mansoob ker ke us ki taang khainch lete ho...Govt kia karay.

Salam !!!!

Janab app kafi jazbati hogay hain aur issi chakar ma baat ko dosri tarf la gay hain:cc: App na bilkul sahi aur khari baat kahi ha Iss ma koi shaq nahi :salam: per Agar app gor se parhay tu maina kesi bhi hakumat ko apnay question ma point out nhi kiya na hi Pakistan ki government ko:tauba kuch kaha ha( meri kiya majal:embarasse )Masood bhai ki aur Abbi Bhai ki tahriri as a reference di ha!!!!

Mai app ko dosray tariqay se sawal samjhati hon:cc:
Dekhain Agar kesi shakhs ki apni aik natural personilty ho har kesi hoti ha !!!!!Aur woh uss ko chor kar dosro ki nakal karnay ki kosish karta rahay Aur Sahi se naqal bhi na kar pay Jasa ka ajj kal har individual kar raha ha!!!tu kiya asa shakhs app kay nazdik respectable successful hoga
Urdu mahwaray ka mutabik
Kawa chala Hass ki chal aur apni bhi bhool giya
:mm: Abb App mera kiyay gay question per nazar sani karay tu shaiyd app ko mer prespective samjh ajay:donno:

[Z.]

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Mai iss quote se aur Abbi bhai ki di hoi detail se ya Discuss karna chahti hon kah
Islami mulk kay Iqdar apnay constitutions /Rulzz Islam ka mutabik na ho Aur Mugribi constitution ya Rulzz apply kar ka mulk ko chalaya jay tu kiya ya sahi ha???????????kiya asa mulk khabi tarqi kar sakta ha ???uss ki hukmat chalanay walay jab Iqdar-e-Ala Alllah ki zaat ka bajay Apnay app ko samjhnay lagay aur Hakomat hasil karnay ki hirss or hawas ka shikar ho???
Kiya Asa mulk jo apnay Iqdar ya Apnay dean ko chor kar dosro ki nakal karnay ki kosish kartay hain .Kamyab hosaktay hain ?????

fari jawab deyney sey pehley mey aap sey aik sawal poochun gi
maujooda muslim hakumaton mey sey koi aik bhi hakumat aap ko kamyab lagti hai kaheen sey?

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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dil ko lagti hai baat munday ki :wk, wesay "hum" main "tum" bhi shamil ho naa :mm:

Nahi hum loogon mein sirf aap loog hi shamil ho :comfort:

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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aslamo alykum , payary munda ji , aik baat to bataiye aap dosron ko to cool down keh rahy hain aur khud jazbaat ki roo main itna behak gay hain k mohtarma ny jo sawal kiya hy us ka jawab ko to chuwa tak naheen .aur ulta muslim ummah ko kosny lag gay...bhai mery khiyal main sawaal fari ny ye kiya hy k aik islaam k naam par banny waly mulk main kaya islami qanoon hona chaiye ya magrabi (ya dosry lafzoon main gair islami)aur kaya aysa mulk jo apny deen ko chor kar dosron ki naqal kary aur mulk main ALLAH ki hukomat k bajay fard ki zati hukomat hojay to kaya wo mulk taraqi karsakta hy...is main magrab ko kis ny bura bhala kaha hy agar koi is sawal ki wajha se bura kehlay ga to wo hum khud hi hongy ya hamary apny islami aur masraqi hukmaraan.....:salam:

Tu sahi keh raha he mein topic se kuch hata zaroor, lekin mere khyaal se mein ne kuch ghalat bhi nahi kaha.

Jahan tak Islami Kanoon, islami hakoomat ki baat kertay ho to koon rookta he...lao bei hum bhi dekhein Islami Hakoomat...but I don't think ke aaj kul ke islamic govt. lanay ka perchaar kerne walay MMA itnay eligible hein ke wo awaam ke masail hal ker sakein...bhokon marein ge loog jub aisay be-his loog aaein ge

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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Salam !!!!

Janab app kafi jazbati hogay hain aur issi chakar ma baat ko dosri tarf la gay hain:cc: App na bilkul sahi aur khari baat kahi ha Iss ma koi shaq nahi :salam: per Agar app gor se parhay tu maina kesi bhi hakumat ko apnay question ma point out nhi kiya na hi Pakistan ki government ko:tauba kuch kaha ha( meri kiya majal:embarasse )Masood bhai ki aur Abbi Bhai ki tahriri as a reference di ha!!!!

Mai app ko dosray tariqay se sawal samjhati hon:cc:
Dekhain Agar kesi shakhs ki apni aik natural personilty ho har kesi hoti ha !!!!!Aur woh uss ko chor kar dosro ki nakal karnay ki kosish karta rahay Aur Sahi se naqal bhi na kar pay Jasa ka ajj kal har individual kar raha ha!!!tu kiya asa shakhs app kay nazdik respectable successful hoga
Urdu mahwaray ka mutabik
Kawa chala Hass ki chal aur apni bhi bhool giya
:mm: Abb App mera kiyay gay question per nazar sani karay tu shaiyd app ko mer prespective samjh ajay:donno:

Aap loog fashion mein un ki nakal kerneay ki baat kerte ho...kabi technology ko hasil kerne mein bhi un ki nakal karo...destructive purpose ke liye nakal na karo...constructive purpose ke liye to kar saktay ho na...hum loog apni identity banana chahtay ho, aur practically zero hein...is liye ziada baatein nahi karo...sirf ilm aur fanoon hasil karo...aur jub kisi mukaam pe pohanch jao to phir baat karo aagay ki

[Mr. Sialkoty]

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aslamo alykum , payary munda ji , aik baat to bataiye aap dosron ko to cool down keh rahy hain aur khud jazbaat ki roo main itna behak gay hain k mohtarma ny jo sawal kiya hy us ka jawab ko to chuwa tak naheen .aur ulta muslim ummah ko kosny lag gay...bhai mery khiyal main sawaal fari ny ye kiya hy k aik islaam k naam par banny waly mulk main kaya islami qanoon hona chaiye ya magrabi (ya dosry lafzoon main gair islami)aur kaya aysa mulk jo apny deen ko chor kar dosron ki naqal kary aur mulk main ALLAH ki hukomat k bajay fard ki zati hukomat hojay to kaya wo mulk taraqi karsakta hy...is main magrab ko kis ny bura bhala kaha hy agar koi is sawal ki wajha se bura kehlay ga to wo hum khud hi hongy ya hamary apny islami aur masraqi hukmaraan.....:salam:

Tu sahi keh raha he mein topic se kuch hata zaroor, lekin mere khyaal se mein ne kuch ghalat bhi nahi kaha.

Jahan tak Islami Kanoon, islami hakoomat ki baat kertay ho to koon rookta he...lao bei hum bhi dekhein Islami Hakoomat...but I don't think ke aaj kul ke islamic govt. lanay ka perchaar kerne walay MMA itnay eligible hein ke wo awaam ke masail hal ker sakein...bhokon marein ge loog jub aisay be-his loog aaein ge

[Muhammad Khalil]

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aslam o alikum ...kafee behas hu rahi hay aur huti rahy gii natija nikly ga Zero
hamisha kee tarah...

hamara kaam elzam tarashi hay bus aik dosry per.aik dosry ko batoon sy nicha dekhana....

main siraf yehan etna hee kahoonga k Insaan ka ekhtiar siraf apni NAAK k aagy nahi huta....apna hukam apna ekhtiar hum ksi per nahi THOONS sakty.
hamara ekhtiar siraf apny oper hay...to kiun na apna aap theek kia jay..
sab sy pehly jo b Islamic aqdar hain unain apny opper lagoon kia jay.
siraf apny oper na k MMA kia ker raha wo kia ker rahy hain yeh kia ker rahy hain...
yeh dekhna chayee k MAIN kia ker raha hun ..main un chezon per amal ker raha hun jo islam ny kaheen hain?


nahi kabi b nahi hu sakta.....jab tak hum khudh apny aap ko na badlian...
Plz elzam tarashi sy per haiz kerian aur siraf apny aap ko Theek karian.

[Shaim]

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start se end tak perha...itna kahon ga ke

Cool down...hum musalmanon mein yahi kharaabi he ke hum baatein bari achi kerte hein...Baray achay words istamaal kerte hein ta ke sunanay walay ko bhi ishteyaal aa jaye...lekin kerte kuch bhi nahi...Be practical in ur approach...Ilm Hasil karo...tecnnology hasil karo. Sabi inhi chakron mein lagay hein ke Magrib yeh ker raha he zulm ker raha he...kia bakwaas he yeh...kia hum loog perh likh ker technology hasil ker ke un tak nahi pohanch saktay.

Hamein baat baat per Margib ko point out kerte sharam kyoon nahi aati...Yahi kasoor he na un ka ke wo Kafir hein...lekin hum muslamnaon se ziada suchay hein...hum se ziada mehanti hein...aur apna dimaag to atleast istamaal kerte hein. Allah ne hamein bhi dimaag diya he...lekin sad afsoos hum isay sahi istamaal kerne se hi kaasir hein.

So plz don't beat about the bushes ke hamari govt. magrib ki taraf ja rahi he ke mashrik ki taraf...ager wo koi acha kaam kerne ke liye bhi koi kadam uthati he to usay magrabi rawayaat se mansoob ker ke us ki taang khainch lete ho...Govt kia karay.

Hmmmmmmmm!

well i agree wid u
hum na hi mehnati hain na hi sacche na hi pure or na hi honest
na rishtoon main........na kamoon main........na zindagi k saath.........na apas main

or non-muslims humari acchi cheezon ko adopt ker chukey hain (wo acchaiaan jo hum main pehle thiin) or hum apni hi cheezoon ko choor chukey hain
or maghrib ki taraf dorr rahe hain........not in the sense of tech n edu.........but we r following their cultures (filled wid devil)

n jahaan takk bat govt. ki tang khenchne wali hai to............ab koi ummed nahi hai govt. se.....per ager koi accha kaam kary gi to :insha: i wud try my best 2 buck it up!

[Shaim]

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[aabi2cool]

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Tu sahi keh raha he mein topic se kuch hata zaroor, lekin mere khyaal se mein ne kuch ghalat bhi nahi kaha.

Jahan tak Islami Kanoon, islami hakoomat ki baat kertay ho to koon rookta he...lao bei hum bhi dekhein Islami Hakoomat...but I don't think ke aaj kul ke islamic govt. lanay ka perchaar kerne walay MMA itnay eligible hein ke wo awaam ke masail hal ker sakein...bhokon marein ge loog jub aisay be-his loog aaein ge

payary munda ji , mozu par aap ab bhi naheen aay ye mozu naheen hy k kon islamic hukomat laney mukhlas hy ya naheen aur kahaan kahaan islami hukomat hy .?......sawal khuch aur hy jis ki wazahat main apni pehli repply main karchuka hon aap bus us ka jawab deen?:salam: