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  • #16
    Re: MUBAHISA: job taleem ki bina pay milni chaye ya tajrabaye ki bina par ??

    Originally posted by Spy009 View Post
    Ek baat aur main bata doon, Diploma holder ko Qualified person ke rank mein nahiin rakh saktey
    Mmm

    England mey aaj kal wo log jin key pass "hunar" ho (they are diploma holders in particular skills) degree holders sey ziada kama rahey hein...

    aik tarhan sey aap ki baat sahih hai ....leykin phir baat aa jati hai opportunity ki.....kuch log college level key baad uni nahi ja saktey hein phir wo aik khas field sey wabasta honey key liye diplomas leytey hein.....ab agar in logon sey poocha jaye to wo ye zaroor kahein gey key dono equal honey chahiyein kyun key "agar hamarey pass degree nahi hai leykin hamarey pass skill hai"

    i hope im clear?
    " Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off your goals "

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    • #17
      Re: MUBAHISA: job taleem ki bina pay milni chaye ya tajrabaye ki bina par ??

      Originally posted by Spy009 View Post
      Ek baat aur main bata doon, Diploma holder ko Qualified person ke rank mein nahiin rakh saktey

      mmmmm bilkul thiik kaha:thmbup:

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      • #18
        Re: MUBAHISA: job taleem ki bina pay milni chaye ya tajrabaye ki bina par ??

        Originally posted by Me Here View Post
        mmmmm bilkul thiik kaha:thmbup:
        galat:shh: they are Qualified in their own field and area
        pori dunia main tumam industries main 98 % skilled kam diploma holders ya non professional degree holders but with skill log kertay haan

        professional degree holders basically are the mangers and lookafters and brought new ideas of doing thing with a better way

        her aik ka apna kam hay and dono main sey kisi aik key bagair industry ka proper chalna mumkin naeen
        Last edited by tauruskhan; 26 November 2006, 13:03.
        People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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        • #19
          Re: MUBAHISA: job taleem ki bina pay milni chaye ya tajrabaye ki bina par ??

          Originally posted by filbahere View Post
          galat:shh: they are Qualified in their own field and area
          pori dunia main tumam industries main 98 % skilled kam diploma holders ya non professional degree holders but with skill log kertay haan

          professional degree holders basically are the mangers and lookafters and brought new ideas of doing thing with a better way

          her aik ka apna kam hay and dono main sey kisi aik key bagair industry ka proper chalna mumkin naeen

          arrry nahi.........diplomas like oracle,PGD.....etc r nice or qualified bhi
          per other diplomas jin main end mai koi paper nahi dena hoota just lectures attend kerne hoty hain.....wo waqai qualified nahi hooty q k un diploma classes main sab log jahaz n kishtiyan hi banate hain:embarasse n this is surely true........widout exam hum kuch nahi kerte.........:pagal:

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          • #20
            Re: MUBAHISA: job taleem ki bina pay milni chaye ya tajrabaye ki bina par ??

            Originally posted by Me Here View Post
            arrry nahi.........diplomas like oracle,PGD.....etc r nice or qualified bhi
            per other diplomas jin main end mai koi paper nahi dena hoota just lectures attend kerne hoty hain.....wo waqai qualified nahi hooty q k un diploma classes main sab log jahaz n kishtiyan hi banate hain:embarasse n this is surely true........widout exam hum kuch nahi kerte.........:pagal:
            sis jee kabi Pakistan sey bahir nikal ker bi deekain
            ager sirf app Pakistan ki baat keerain geen
            to professional degrees ki classes main bi yahi same hota hay koi farak naeen hota un main bi

            diploma kisi field ka bi ho , chayeh chemical diploma, electrical , mechanical etc yai log industry ki back bone hotey haan , jo log yeh kam kertay haan , professional logon key bas ki baat naeen hota wo
            in ki apni aik tarah sey hard work ki apni field hay
            People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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            • #21
              Re: MUBAHISA: job taleem ki bina pay milni chaye ya tajrabaye ki bina par ??

              Originally posted by filbahere View Post
              sis jee kabi Pakistan sey bahir nikal ker bi deekain
              ager sirf app Pakistan ki baat keerain geen
              to professional degrees ki classes main bi yahi same hota hay koi farak naeen hota un main bi

              diploma kisi field ka bi ho , chayeh chemical diploma, electrical , mechanical etc yai log industry ki back bone hotey haan , jo log yeh kam kertay haan , professional logon key bas ki baat naeen hota wo
              in ki apni aik tarah sey hard work ki apni field hay

              nahi maine to Paki ki baat ki thi:pagal:
              wasy classes main beshak jahaaz banao end per to perhna hi perhta hai paper ki waja se iplomas k end main koi nahi perta q k no paper......

              or baahir.......ummmmm:mm: bahir ka mujhe nahi pata:lpop:
              kiya pata wo jahaz ki jaga mizail banate hoon:kr:

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              • #22
                Re: MUBAHISA: job taleem ki bina pay milni chaye ya tajrabaye ki bina par ??

                Originally posted by Me Here View Post
                nahi maine to Paki ki baat ki thi:pagal:
                wasy classes main beshak jahaaz banao end per to perhna hi perhta hai paper ki waja se iplomas k end main koi nahi perta q k no paper......

                or baahir.......ummmmm:mm: bahir ka mujhe nahi pata:lpop:
                kiya pata wo jahaz ki jaga mizail banate hoon:kr:
                diplomay ki bi bakayada papers hotey haan , semister hotey haan

                app diplomay ko shayed samj rahi haan wo cheeze jo log aik ath month ka course kertay haan

                app dobara check karain

                matric key baad
                diplomay ka 3 years ka course hota hay
                us main tumam papers etc hotey haan

                so don't mix diploma with short course
                People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people

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                • #23
                  Re: MUBAHISA: job taleem ki bina pay milni chaye ya tajrabaye ki bina par ??

                  may vote nahi karongi
                  coz
                  may nay wo log dekhy hain jin ka xperience itna behtareen hay k un k samny educated bhi kuch nahi,
                  sochnay ki baat hay k hamary Parents bhi itnay educated nahi hoty par un ka xperience boht zyada ehmiyat rakhta hay.....hum xperience ko ignore nahi kar skty
                  wesy bhi xperience kar k bhi insaan boht kuch sekhta hay coz wo practically boht kuch kar or dekh lety hain,
                  but
                  Taleemi kableet bhi hona zaroori hay, agar xperience kaam pay ja kar bus attendence laga leny wala hay to baykar hay


                  batao bhi may Vote kesy karon ab?
                  :salam:

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                  • #24
                    Re: MUBAHISA: job taleem ki bina pay milni chaye ya tajrabaye ki bina par ??

                    Seedhi si baat hay ..Education line main bhi ..Practical or theory alag alag tareeqay say batai jaaty hain..agr hamary mulk main education system eemandaree say chalay jai tu Education say farigh insan kafi experience ho chukay ga..laikin yahan tu aaway ka awaa bigra howa hay ..Lihaza pahly eemandaree paida kero.phir sub theek hu jai ga..warna bhari rishawt kay sahary na ahal peray likhay jahil aagay aaty rahain gain..phir wo nara marain gain hum Roshan khayal hain..ullo kay pathy.

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                    • #25
                      Re: MUBAHISA: job taleem ki bina pay milni chaye ya tajrabaye ki bina par ??

                      Yeh bohat depend karta hai keh aap kis job key liye apply kar rahey hain, taleem must to hai magar us taleem ka koi meyaar bhi hona chahiye, hamarey mulkon key MA paas Europe mein factoriyon mein dhakkey khaa rahey hotey hain, ja safaii key jobs kartey huwey nazar aatey hain. Lekin agar aap key paas IT ka koi diploma hai jo Internation recognised ho to aap ko hathon haath liya jata hai.... Lekin IT mein bhi tajarbah pehley manga jata hai degree baad mein. Let me give you my very own example. Merey paas abhi aik dimploma kam hai jiskey hasil karney ka abhi mujhey waqt nahin mila, magar merey paas us job ka pichhley 7 saal ka tajarbah hai to aik company ney apna yeh asool keh unkey paas koi bhi employee us dimploma key bghair kaam nahin kar sakta, usko unhein ney dar'guzar kar diya hai aur mujhey job offer ki hai - only because of my experience. To it depends very much on what r u applying for and what kind of experience you have....
                      tumharey bas mein agar ho to bhool jao mujhey
                      tumhein bhulaney mein shayid mujhey zamana lagey

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